Delusional Ventura Hosts Serial Predatory Skeptic

 "The Moral Arc"?  That's some extreme narcissist bollocks.

Scraping the bottom of the barrel there.

But what else do persons connected to trutherism have left but the fringe of the fringe?  Ventura isn't alone in using dubious associations to promote trutherism.

Manny Badillo was many "truthers" Facebook and Twitter friend in spite of his sex offender status


 

Manny at Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009794138066

[For the record, when I first heard of these charges, it took repeated questions before people finally said, "Yeah, okay, he's probably guilty.".  To which my response was, "WTF? Then why is he still around?"
No good answers were forthcoming... ]

For instance, Bursill has Manny among his fwiends:

https://www.facebook.com/johnbursill/friends

As does Cindy Sheehan:

https://www.facebook.com/cindyleesheehan/friends

[Historical note: Bursill registered to Craig Lazo's defunct forum a couple days before it was deleted to promote an Aussy truth tour, months after starting a thread at truthaction.org claiming to be concerned about Lazo's 'Killtown' disinfo.  Evidence like that I don't publish, but I do keep to give to authorities the next time these sleazeballs push a con.]

Sex Offenders aren't just popular with two faced scammers or people taking photo ops with racists.   Richard Gage roped a guy called DiNatale into pushing his non profit AETruther scam, and either is so far gone he really doesn't see the problem  or believes even the worst publicity is good publicity.

So it's not too much of a shock Ventura doesn't see interviewing a man strongly suspected of sexual predation in the skeptic community as a problem.

What is slightly more surprising is a well known "skeptic" blog run by two fools found it newsworthy:

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2015/12/jesse-ventura-and-michael-shermer.html

'Fools' might sound harsh, but they are either fools or scammers and opportunists if their activities over the years are any indication.  They stopped credible debunking ages ago,  really by early-mid 2007.  There after the blog was little more than copy pasta of other, credible debunkers, with the main course being an amplifier  for "truther" gossip.

The latest blog post is much in the same vein though not as irresponsible as some. JamesB logs in to write it, linking to a video:

"Jesse Ventura and Michael Shermer"

Only a bit on 9/11, but skeptic Michael Shermer and conspiracy theorist extraordinaire Jesse Ventura have what actually is a relatively amiable conversation.

Why this is even slightly newsworthy for skeptics is baffling to me.  As it was blogged 3 days after the interview, it clearly wasn't topical or urgent to anyone.  A search of  "Jesse Ventura and Michael Shermer"
show literally no English language blog besides SLC covered it, not even the usual conspiracy outlets(at least not with that title):

 And why is Shermer still relevant anyway? On Skeptics forum itself are threads detailing Shermer's suspicious relationship with conartist David Cole-stien, as well as the rape allegations.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263429&page=118
https://skepchick.org/2015/08/ben-radford-has-threatened-to-sue-me/

What's even more baffling is the SLC bloggers had no problem calling out DiNatalie when  cjnewson pointed out Gage/AETruth's involvement with a sex predator.  They even blogged it.  But Shermer gets a pass.

Hmmm.

It might be because both DiNatale and Badillo were legally convicted as opposed to being convicted in the court of public opinion, which admittedly is very YMMV.  In Shermer's case one could say, well, he's not convicted so he's innocent.  But reading the history this is very unlikely.   Normal, non predatory people do not have a history going back years of predatory behavior.   So even if I don't expect SLC to denounce Shermer, I do expect ethical, responsible people to not give Shermer a platform or publicity.

And while the rape accusations may not be proved in court, Shermer's overly friendly association with Holocaust Denier David Cole is unquestionable thanks to photographic evidence.  Shermer has yet to explain their chumminess TTBOMK.

[This is all aside from another serious issue regarding the SLC blog:  like Mr. Lazo they log into their blog regularly, so, like Mr. Lazo, they have no reason not to clean their blog up.]

Whatever the SLC fools intentions claim to be, giving either Shermer or Ventura publicity isn't helping anyone...except the conspiracy industry they both profit from.

So, unless SLC has a dog in that race, it's an odd choice for an alleged debunking blog. At this point there is no point to discussing trutherism except to expose it--and report its frontmen--as a scam.

Hey, little Lurker, what are you doing?

Title total rip off of "Hey Little Girl".

I have a lurker.  Everybody wave!

Not that they know I know they're lurking.

Many were the lurkers in trutherism...


The Bad:

CIT supporters and enablers worried about their "hit list" with information acquired fraudulently, though not worried enough to remove it:
 

 "casseia": 15 visits between Aug 9, 2009 and Aug 15, 2009 from Comcast Cable (24.xxx-xxx-xxx)

Fetzer's friend Gustavo Espada: 14 visits between Aug 9, 2009 and Aug 14, 2009  from at least 4 ISPs, two of which were Harvard,  

Harvard University (140.247.112-xxx) and (140.247.249-xxx)

"Brainster": 1 visit Aug 11, 2009, proving he was well aware of CIT activities.
 Cox Communications (68.xxx-xxx-xxx)

Adam Syed(a conman who I have recently been informed has a relationship with Espada going back to 2007, notable because in 2008 he contacted the then webmasters under false pretences, claiming to share "concerns" about Espada.):  3 visits from Aug 13 2009 to Aug 15 2009

 And of course multiple visits from Craig Ranke from multiple ISPs, 35 from this one alone: Cox Communications (68.xxx-xxx-xxx)

For people involved in pushing a fraud, they were awfully  cavalier about their Internet browsing habits.

The Worse:

Antisemites and their enablers worried that Holocaust denial was getting the kicking it deserved...but not worried enough to stop trying to recuit leftists into "trutherism":

truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6456

Casseia: May 28, 2010 to April 23, 2010 (24.xxx-xxx-xxx)

Jennifer Wynhausen(possibly Craig Lazo on her computer): April 29, 2010 (76.xxx-xxx-xxx))

Espada: April 24, 2010 to May 26, 2010, multiple ISPs, including Harvard and residence(98.xxx-xxx-xxx)

Syed:     May 28, 2010 to April 23, 2010 (71.xxx-xxx-xxx)

Brainster: April 24, 2010 to May 27, 2010 (71.xxx-xxx-xxx), proving he was 100% aware I was not and had never been a Holocaust Denier, ergo any involvement in "trutherism" had to be a con.  Because, how else would that happen?

The Really Bad:

Last post supporting trutherism, with a clear intent to move on.

 911blogger.com/news/2010-06-03/if-itpart-6-jennys-eagle

Anyone reading this and claiming I was still involved was spreading lies and knew it:

Portland State University, almost certainly "Casseia":  June 3, 2010(131.xxx-xxx-xxx)

 Espada:  June 4, 2010 (Harvard University 140.xxx-xxx-xxx)
Syed: June 3, 2010 to April 22, 2012 (let it go, sheesh...)(Road Runner 24.xxx-xxx-xxx)

And someone in Madision, WI I suspect is Kevin Barrett:   71.xxx-xxx-xxx

The Ugly:

My 'best friend' Craig Lazo and Jennifer lurking for material to invent their blackmail lies:

truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=34638

Wynhausen:  Nov 26, 2009  Comcast Cable (76.xxx-xxx-xxx)
(This is the same ISP account Craig lazo used to browse another thread  on Oct 11, 2008)

Mention must be made of "Casseia" who visited the thread earlier in November, and probably directed the Kt Crew to it: Comcast Cable (24.xxx-xxx-xxx)


So, those are some of my lurkers, and what a sleazy bunch they are.


But I have a new lurker now, sniffing around an old 911Blogger thread:

 http://911blogger.com/news/2009-02-09/heroes-metaphor-and-evolution-911-activism-part-1

This one is using an ipad from a static ISP in Liverpool:  (188.xxx-xxx-xxx) and seems to be taking an unhealthy interest in my past online activities, for at least 11 hours. This makes me wonder if new lies are being spun as we speak.

Which would be very, very bad for the people who own a couple of the top 911 website properties who have been informed this is exactly the sort of thing they should not do any more. 

No, I'm not talking about 911blogger, though if the owners of that dodgy website had honored my request to delete my account, and every post there, because I want nothing I've written to go to supporting a fraud...weeeell, I wouldn't know this creepy git--presumably a friend of theirs-was snooping about.

See, years ago, after being conned into trutherism, as soon as I realized something odd was going on, I took it upon myself to contact people who really know how the Internet works.  As a result, I know quite a bit about who has been lying about what.  And updates still come in.

The creeps should chew on that a mo.

After 2008, I always knew who was talking to whom, and that they were frauds.  I just didn't understand why.  It took a while to lose the idea these creeps were government agents, and see them for the political con artists they are.


Back to lurker. I could be wrong about them.  Maybe, he/she is just stumbled across that blog.  Except, as old as it is, the only way they could do that is through the old profile...that is only there because the owners of that dodgy website have not honored my request to delete my account and every post there.  Playing the odds, this is a creep working on some new creepiness.

Some advice?  Stop while you're ahead. 

Craig Lazo sure wishes he had.

James Fetzer supports LaRouche PAC; Barrett interviews Gage, White Supremacist Miller

And the penny drops with a thud.

After years of suspicions and dodgy activities, incontrovertible  proof of Fetzer's support and association with the Larouche cult is finally available...from the Larouche PAC itself.

In 2011 one of Fetzer's radio shows was boosted by the PAC:


http://archive.larouchepac.com/node/20808

Obama's Nazi Police State and War Drive Presented on Madison, Wisconsin, Radio

December 16, 2011 • 12:20PM

Obama's Nazi Police State and War Drive Presented on Madison, Wisconsin, Radio 

Radio host and prolific blogger Jim Fetzer hosted Mike Billington for an hour Wednesday night. Fetzer strongly supports the LaRouche movement, and wanted to address the nazi police-state measures being passed this week as part of the National Defense Authorization Bill. Fetzer had already posted on his website the video of Sen. Levin exposing Obama's personal role in preventing the watering down of the bill to eliminate the President's power to arrest and incarcerate Americans indefinitely, without cause or due process.  
      
He asked repeatedly why Obama believes he needs this power, allowing Billington to discuss the control of the madman Obama by the British Empire, the genocidal intentions of that Empire, the history of the Empire's effort to destroy the United States and sovereignty in general, and the necessary mobilization (in spite of Christmas) to stop the onrushing global nuclear war by removing Obama. Billington discussed the potential for victory through Glass Steagall and the global NAWAPA, but that the population and its leaders had to grasp the issue of metaphor and Shelley's concept of the potential transformation of common people through the awakening of creativity in a moment of crisis.       Fetzer had some disagreements on certain historical issues and on the nazi nature of the Green movement, but didn't want to waste time nit-picking over his disagreements, and kept firing questions at Billington. He told his audience that the situation could not be more dangerous, and that they should tune in next week to hear another LaRouche spokesman (Harley), and that they should go the LPAC website in the meantime.

"Fetzer strongly supports the LaRouche movement," ....rarely does one get such unequivocal statements.  Mind, one might expect Fetzer to deny it...except he's blog the interview at his own blog:

 http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2011/12/michael-billington-jim-fetzer-christoff.html

 Wednesday, December 14, 2011

Michael Billington / Jim Fetzer / Christoff Lehmann

New American Gulag / PressTV / Libya

Posted by Total at 11:11 PM

The interview can be heard at this link:

http://nwopodcast.com/fetz/media/jim%20fetzer%20real%20deal-billington%20presstiv%20Lehmann.mp3

This is not entirely a surprise.  Fetzer has associated and worked with the sleaziest  Nazi whores promoting the "truth" movement.  But proof of his direct support of known frauds and cultist have been thin.

Fetzer put himself on the radar as more than just a conspiracy kook in the fall out after Tarpley's Kennebunkport warning.   He was almost certainly the person who arranged for the WQ2RX stalking porn videos to be made, that included person information gathered fraudulently mixed with images of sexualized girls, some of whom were preteens.  Ironically it was John Albanese of all people who all but backhandedly confirmed this  when he tried to poo pooed the idea in a private group email exchange, only to be schooled by another participant.

There are archived clips of Fetzer, speaking with Tarpley, and demanding to know who the people were who called out the so called "warning" as a hoax.  Soon after the videos started spawning, some of which very stupidly call for help from Craig "Killtown" Lazo's Portland friends, one a lawyer long overdue for disbarment, another a legal aid who no one has heard from since.  Lazo's friend Andrew Kelly aka Spiney was also a participant, along with the notorious Greg Thomson aka Ozzybinoswald who seems to have made most of the worst videos.

I suppose Fetzer thought he was very clever:

"I'll ask for info on people by radio interview, and when the videos show up no way can anyone think I could ever have anything to do with them being made."

Um, yeah...if they don't have a brain.  Even if Fetzer and his merry band of schmucks managed to convince persons there are "agents" trying to hide the "truth", it's still more likely the people releasing this so called anonymous info are the same scumbags who had scammed them into joining, NOT mysterious government shills.

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh.

Let us not forget that Lyndon Larouche is a convicted fraud.   So how fitting that the organization founded by one fraud is exposing another fraud.

There is a very charming fairytale still spread on the James Randi forums(now the International Skeptics whatsit): many posters, bless em,  still cling to the idea Fetzer is somehow a gullible loon who falls for every conspiracy.

On the contrary the evidence overwhelmingly points to Mr. Fetzer being an architect in the creation of these frauds, and ruthlessly recruits front men to hide his part in the con.  His associates include other big name charlatans like Webster Tarpley, Alex Jones,  Kevin Barrett...all who have strong ties to fringe right politics, Nazi apologists and racists.  Fetzer once bragged in an email chain about having a "Portland Contact".  It's obvious that was either Craig Lazo or one of his group, making rumors Fetzer is pretending to not know who Lazo is very, very funny.

Other relevant updates around the same time:  Fetzer's longtime buddy, Kevin Barrett started supporting a racist White Pride candidate, Merlin Miller:

   http://afreedomparty.us/?p=7768

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Merlin Miller Interview On American Freedom Radio

Web Team | September 25, 2012 | 3 comments

American Freedom Radio | Merlin Miller is a guest of Kevin Barrett. Kevin Barrett, Ph.D., is an outspoken 9/11 truth activist, author, and academic. A co-editor of 9/11 and the American Empire Vol. 2: Christians, Jews and Muslims Speak Out (Interlink, 2007), and author of Truth Jihad: My Epic Struggle Against the 9/11 Big Lie (Progressive Press, 2007), he has taught English, French, Arabic, American Civilization, Humanities, African Literature, Folklore, and Islam at colleges and universities in the San Francisco Bay area, Paris, and Madison, Wisconsin. He is a co-founder of the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth http://mujca.com. This show, like his writings, features Dr. Barrett’s all-out struggle for truth spiced with his offbeat sense of humor.

But it get's better.   This year Richard Gage is interviewed  by Barrett, the same day Barrett interviews White Pride Merlin Miller:

http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/2015/04/live-james-perloff-merlin-miller.html

Friday, April 3, 2015

LIVE! James Perloff, Merlin Miller & Richard Gage, AIA

Friday 4/3- Listen live - 8 to 10 pm Eastern on Revolution Radio: http://www.freedomslips.com/  - click on the "Studio B" button. To be rebroadcast Sunday 11 a.m. to 12:45 p.m. Eastern on http://NoLiesRadio.org  and then archived at the usual spot.
First hour: James Perloff, author of the perennial bestseller Truth Is a Lonely Warrior, comes on to discuss the myths and realities of World War II.

Second hour: Filmmaker and 2012 presidential candidate Merlin Miller joins us to celebrate this week's official launch of the American Eagle Party. (Check out the video.)

Then in the final half hour Richard Gage, AIA of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth discusses the new Resolution, submitted to the American Institute of Architects, to Support a New WTC 7 Investigation. See:

55 Architects Submit Resolution to be Voted on at the AIA National Convention in May!

Posted by Kevin Barrett at 3:21 PM

This interview can be listened to if you  go to this link...but it's password protected:

http://noliesradio.org/archives/97171

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This is so fucking hilarious.  Years ago the most common tactic to manipulate people conned into "truth" to sharing information was claims of "transparency".   Now the sad gits are too afraid to let people hear them.   As if being interviewed by  Holocaust Denier on the same show with a white power racist isn't enough to sink what's left of Richard Gage's tattered credibility.

(For me it was recruiting a convicted sexual predator.  

 John P. DiNatale - Richard Gage's special friend, stood together at the podium in Time Square on 9/11/13.  They also did an interview outside NBC studios on the same day. Richard has known him for at least a year. But why after a year did Richard not know that John P. DiNatale sexually abused a girl under the age of 14? This is not a rumor - this is not libel - this is the truth. John DiNatale is a registered sex offender, being tried and convicted in two different states.

In 2004 he was convicted in Richmond, NY for 2nd degree Sexual Abuse.
In the same year he was convicted in Middlesex, NJ for aggravated criminal sexual contact.

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=65694#

That was the end of even the "maybe he really believes this shit" excuse.  Hmm...what is it about these creeps and sex/porn/pedophilia?)


Alas the password is nothing obviously part of the White Power code.  It's not "88", for instance.  Sigh...if someone cracks the code, please comment.

EDIT 4/15: Password protection appears to be limited for the first day or so the audio is available.  One can now listen through the embedded player.  I'm not sure why.  The usual reason would to keep it from being shared before editors checked it.  But in this case one can't download the audio anyway, so color me meh. 

Let's end with a short list of liars, frauds, and conartists who to this day  support and/or associate with any of the above:

911 blogger Owners/ Mods:   Keogh, Orangatan, and Vicky are all supporters of Richard Gage and his org.  Keogh and Orangatan are directly involved with the organization.  Therefore they should all be aware of Gage's interview with Barrett.  And DiNatale for that matter.

WTCDemolition.com  webmaster, Gustavo Espada.  Also heavy supporter of Gage and Gage's projects, knows full well his so called "nemesis" Keogh and Orangatan at 911Blogger are involved, making all claims at his website of Keogh and Orangutan being "shills" or whatever a fraud of lies and distraction.  Ditto on the DiNatale point.  Fucks sake, the man's freely inventing lies about "agents" and "shills"...shouldn't be too difficult to notice a real liability.  Like the rest of the frauds, he just doesn't care if pedophiles are part of the great big truther tent.

Espada is also a member of Fetzer's scholar's group, something he's never admitted to while he writes the usual bs about Fetzer being a shill.   [Side note: Espada was also a member of Vicky's group for at least several months, something else he's never admitted to]

Looking back the arrogance of these people is amazing.  They clearly never expected to be caught out.  As it is, just wait long enough and it all comes out in the wash.

NO PASARAN

Note on American Eagle Party:
http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2015/02/merlin-miller-2012-presidential-nominee-of-american-third-position-forms-american-eagle-party/

Merlin Miller has formed a new party, called the American Eagle Party. Miller had been the 2012 presidential nominee of American Third Position, which later changed its name to the American Freedom Party. Although many leaders of the American Freedom Party have now left it to create the American Eagle Party, the American Freedom Party has not been dissolved.

The American Eagle Party says it stands for (1) ending U.S. involvement in wars around the world; (2) curtailing immigration; (3) reclaiming constitutional rights for citizens; (4) improving the national economy. The Nationalist Times supports the American Eagle Party and has this article about its founding.

The "Nationalist Times"?  Whatever could they be about?  Oh yeah:

Don Wassall became a director on May 4, 2010. Wassall was once the leader of Council of Conservative Citizens chapters in Nevada and Pennsylvania. He has been active in the white supremacist movement for decades, running the American Nationalist Union and its newspaper The Nationalist Times since 1985.

Good comment on not just closet Nazi politics, but how the whole scam gets recycled periodically.  Very applicable to the "truth" movement:

 It’s the same thing they do every time they name change; another attempt to sugar coat it a bit more and paste on another new coat of paint on the same dilapidated structure. It works with a few people for a short time but before too long too many people make the connection, too many nazis and kluckxers join up or get outed, and the cycle repeats.

Let's Air The Laundry

I haven't covered as much as I planned this year, but you know, real life.
 happens.    Let's take some time out for some random observations and corrections to our collective perceptions.

1.Self proclaimed "debunker" falls for Gamergate con

First up, I'll indulge a spot of pointing and laughing at one of the owners of Screw Loose Change who was spreading gamergate propaganda at JREF.  Either he's a gullible tool, or he's a secret supporter.  For those lucky few who don't know the clusterfuck that is gamergate, here's a relatively short summary.  Basically gamergate is another fringe political front.  But Brainster is very interested in the debunked sex for review angle:

As for the death threats, this post claims that it is most likely that Anita faked them. Ten tweets in 3 minutes, the last of which Anita screen captured 12 seconds after it was posted.

BTW, I find the story about Zoe Quinn sleeping around to get positive reviews for her games more interesting.

 Uh huh.  About that story:

 ...there is no evidence she "slept around for positive reviews." And to be honest I couldn't find anything more boring than someone else's sex life. Why are you interested in who someone else sleeps with?

 But the reply to the "Anita faked it" angle Brainster is pushing is the best:

Twitter does this thing where if somebody puts your Twitter name in their post, you get notified about it immediately. It doesn't strike me as unusual at all that that any Twitter user would be disturbed by the nature of the first few initial tweets and click the name to see the rest, and quickly screenshot such material before it can be erased. If the person who started the account began tweeting while Sarkeesian was logged into Twitter, she would've seen the tweets immediately. No skullduggery or Truthy conspiracism necessary.

 That must have hurt, the owner of a blog mocking the "truth" movement being told by a fellow skeptic to stop being a Gamergate "truther".  Priceless.

2. Next up in the How Far We Have Fallen category is Michael Shermer.

Shermer is best known in "truther" circles as  a debunker celebrity often lauded at the SLC blog:

Screw Loose Change: Michael Shermer on the Truthers

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2008/.../michael-shermer-on-truthers.ht...

Jan 24, 2008 - Uber-skeptic Michael Shermer discusses the troothers stalking his book tour in his latest podcast, and gets a couple of good shots in. The video ...

Screw Loose Change: The Troofer Michael Shermer ...

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/.../troofer-michael-shermer-harassment....

Jan 30, 2008 - Michael Shermer posts the series of videos from his recent troofer harassment, including the one I made at Powell's. Even more interesting ...

Screw Loose Change: Glenn Beck on the Bill Maher Hecklers

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/.../glenn-beck-on-bill-maher-hecklers.ht...

Oct 23, 2007 - Hint, he doesn't like them very much. He has on as guests uber-skeptic Dr. Michael Shermer and James Meigs from Popular Mechanics.

Screw Loose Change: When Troofers Annoy

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2008/01/when-troofers-annoy.html

Jan 21, 2008 - I went and saw Dr. Michael Shermer at a booksigning tonight, for his new work on biology and economics, The Mind of the Markets. The speech ...

Screw Loose Change: Shermer Versus Ryan Debate About ...

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/.../shermer-versus-ryan-debate-about-to....

Nov 8, 2007 - Shermer Versus Ryan Debate About to Start. Click here and choose ... Labels: Kevin Ryan, Michael Shermer, Thom Hartmann. posted by Pat ...

Screw Loose Change: Shermer Versus Ryan Debate Wrapup

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/.../shermer-versus-ryan-debate-wrapup....

Nov 8, 2007 - Kudos to Michael Shermer for doing a very, very good job. There were only a couple of missteps. Always consider your audience and tailor ...

Screw Loose Change: Troofers Take on New World Order

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/.../troofers-take-on-new-world-order.ht...

Jan 17, 2008 - Incidently, Shermer is on a book tour, so if I can work it into my schedule I will try and go see him next week. ... Labels: Michael Shermer.

Screw Loose Change: Book Review: The Believing Brain

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/.../book-review-believing-brain.ht...

Nov 5, 2011 - The rest are interesting, even though I consider Shermer to be somewhat .... What does that have to do with a book by Michael Shermer?

Screw Loose Change: Bits and Pieces

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/04/bits-and-pieces.html

Apr 16, 2011 - Nothing much new to report from the Troofer front. Jesse Ventura was on a radio program the other day with Michael Shermer from Skeptic ...

Screw Loose Change: Truthers on NPR Connecticut

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/.../truthers-on-npr-connecticut.ht...

Apr 19, 2011 - Here are some more crazy people, talking to Michael Shermer in a bar. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlnXDU4AiUQ&feature=

Shermer has also been outed in the Skeptic community as a sexual predator and rapist, operating for possibly years with the protection of high ranking members of the community.  A bit like the Catholic Church. The following timeline is from 2008 to 2013:

Timeline of harassment and sexual assault allegations against Michael Shermer

Events during Shermer's debunking Truther phase: 

June 19, 2008 Alison Smith
At The Amazing Meeting, Alison Smith, then-JREF employee through August 2010, and founder of the now defunct Skeptical Analysis of the Paranormal Society (down) (cached copy), alleges that Michael Shermer plied her with alcohol to the point of losing time and memory, then brought her to his hotel room and had non-consensual sex with her. (This is known, in legal circles and to us Social Justice Warriors and feminazis, as rape.)

September, 2008 Pamela Gay
Gay has recounted in several places, without naming names, a story that while being introduced to Michael Shermer at Dragon*Con in 2008, he made a drunken lunge at her breasts instead of shaking her hand. DJ Grothe has related this story a number of times to a number of people, indicating that he had intervened to stop the public groping from happening.

May 2010 Ashley Miller
At a dinner event she attended featuring PZ Myers, Ashley encounters Michael Shermer, who allegedly spoke with her for several minutes while massaging his genitals through his jeans. She describes the incident here.

May 23rd, 2012 pseudonymous commenter Miriamne
A comment left at Friendly Atheist names Michael Shermer as allegedly having harassed her, and “trying to sleep with a new young woman every TAM”.

Disgusting doesn't begin to cover it.  While one is tempted to blame Randi and he is ultimately responsible for what happens in his organization, it speaks well of him or at least of his pragmatism, that he's fired  DJ Grothe formerly in charge of the JREF forums(and apparently an enabler of Shermer) and retaken the helm personally.  

Nonetheless, it's a bit of a mystery why it too so long.  I suspect Randi is very conservative, and while intelligent, it makes him susceptible to a certain type of charmer.   While leftists can be duped by charm and out right lies, people heavily investing in the authoritarian right are the experts at living in DeNile, especially when that person appears to be a vocal fan and supporter.

As if that wasn't bad enough, Shermer has a questionable history with David Cole.

Mr. Cole-stien , adept conartist and Nazi apologist that he is, claims to have known Shermer since 1993 and has a photo to prove it:

 Cole-stien goes on to rant:

I’ve known little Mikey Shermer since 1993. I tell many interesting stories about this “skeptic” fraud in my book, Republican Party Animal (available from Amazon, Walmart, and Barnes & Noble in the US, Waterstones and Foyles in the UK, Indigo/Chapters in Canada…but enough self-promotion).
Shermy got wind of the fact that I include quite a few pages of conversations that I recorded with him in 1994 – conversations in which he admits to defaming me and lying about my work regarding Holocaust revisionism. So, what did “Mr. Freethinker” do? How did “America’s leading skeptic and defender of free inquiry” respond?
He got his lawyers to serve my publisher with a demand to “refrain from publishing or distributing” my book! This is a man who slams religious institutions for stifling free inquiry and suppressing facts. And he wants to ban a book.
That’s some great skepticizin’ there, Mikey.

 Given Holocaust Deniers don't actually have facts, it's unlikely Shermer was trying to suppress anything that supports the fraud of Holocaust denial.  Much more likely Shermer, already under fire from rape allegations, was in damage control mode, trying to hide the rest of the skeletons in his closet.  At the very least, showing Shermer presented himself to the public in a false light.  For instance, no where in this Donahue show dated 1994 [Disclaimer:video uploader interjects commentary showing they have sympathy with Holocaust "revisionism".  Am seeking a better copy of this show] does Shermer admits he knows Cole previously, apart from a couple of phone calls.  Watching the clip, Donahue wonder's why Shermer is going in where other Jewish groups prefer not to tread.  But if one looks at Shermer/Cole banter and Shermer's pugging his Skeptic magazine, a reason presents itself:  this was great publicity for Shermer's magazine and gave him instant credibility among readers.  Remember this was before the Internet.

 In light of  Cole's exposure as a conartist, and Shermer's association with Cole, one has to wonder exactly how much of the truther/debunker/holocaust denial/forum trolling was a deliberate confidence game using JREF forums as a platform as an outpost of the cultural wars.  Remember, in the beginning the 911 truth con was pitched to the Left and the loudest debunkers come from the Right.

Last Notes on Shermer's friend Cole:
- Earlier clip from show, Cole reiterates, in spite of his Jewish background, that he's an Atheist. [Disclaimer:video uploader interjects commentary showing they have sympathy with Holocaust "revisionism".  Am seeking a better copy of this show]

 - The entire claim pushed by Nazi apologists that Cole was driven into hiding by Jews is skewed:  it wasn't Jews or "Zionists", but a man called Irv Rubin who represented a fringe rightwing extremist group.  A brief reading of Wikipedia will show Rubin in no way represents the actions of mainstream Jews or persons who object to anti-Semitism.

A note about fellow Donahue TV participant Bradley Smith from the ADL:

 Though he often tries to present himself as a free speech activist, Bradley Smith has functioned as a propagandist for the Holocaust denial movement since 1983. He has achieved his greatest notoriety as the director of the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust, whose mission is to disseminate Holocaust denial to students on college campuses. In more recent lectures promoting his book, Break His Bones, Smith has sought to refocus his message on the free speech issue and to “decriminalize Holocaust history.” Privately, he admits that his aim continues to be promoting “revisionism” and anti-Israel propaganda.

3. Last in the Laundry airing is Mia Dolan.


The "Mia Dolan" I know was responsible for exposing "gretavo" as Gustavo Espada, a member of Fetzer's Scholars group(a fact Espada has never admitted) in comments at the Daily Kos, where 911blogger users like "Cassiea" and "Vesa" were claiming to spread the truth.  This was in 2006, but I never knew about it until years later, unfortunately.  It would have been much easier to see it was all a scam by early 2007 if I had.

Sadly, Mia Dolan, however useful they've been confirming the Scholars/911blogger/Wtvdemolition scam, has chosen the screen name of a woman who claims to be a psychic:

Mia Dolan is an Isle of Sheppey-born best-selling author^{[citation needed]} and self-proclaimed psychic based in the United Kingdom. She writes and teaches at her own psychic school.^[1]

 While I personally know people who are "psychic readers"- basically talented empathic cold readers who attribute their skills to intuition and/or spirit  guides, the money they "make" is a negligible gratuity and no different from visiting a therapist or priest.
 
When people are making thousands of dollars off so called psychic powers, that's a game changer.  Dolan has been mentioned on James Randi's forum.

The "Mia" at Dailykos appears to be in Minnesotta, at least according to their blog, Minnesota DFL Caucus Reminder (with Poll).

Nonetheless, their choice of screen name should make one cautious about where exactly they're coming.  


That's all for now.  Given the convoluted nature of the "truther" fraud, this is unlikely to be the last of the laundry aired....

Occupy Retospective at Lady Liberty Lamp, Ron Paul and General Lunacy

With a couple amusing jabs at the Ron Paul political machine.

A couple of friends of mine got heavy into Occupy, one with an unfortunate fixation on Ron Paul, no matter how much evidence of Paul's racist associations leaked out.    It was like a perverse version of voting for the lesser evil strategy, except that Ron Paul was actually the greater evil. 

Occupy itself was fraught with issues before the scammers and loons Lady Liberty analyses jumped on the bandwagon, but this doesn't take away from LLL excellent points.  

One observation from the getgo is most of the infiltration is by political groups, conartists, or corporate opportunists from both camps.  Very little directly by the "gubmint", though of course this is happening, but in a much more subtle way. 

Infiltrators of the Occupy Movement.


Popular activist movements attract all manner of scavengers and hangers-on, most of which seek to capitalize on the success of the more popular group to compensate for the fact that the majority of society regards them as a bunch of babbling kooks. The Occupy Movement is no different, with everyone from The American Spectator to Zeitgeist seeing the mass throng of people as easy pickings by which to enlarge their subscriber base and coffers. Some of these groups, however, see the Occupy Movement as a means to seek legitimacy for their own morally reprehensible causes, whether that takes the form of racism, fraud or selling out activists to the feds.
Here then, is a list of some of the most odious and dangerous groups and individuals currently sucking off the teat of the Occupy Movement. These people shouldn’t be considered part of the broader Occupy Movement, no matter what sort of “authority” they claim.

A list follows heavily represented by"Patriot" pro militia groups, including our "friend" Dr. Paul:

-The Ron Paul Movement

Ron Paul cult of wackos

Personality cult built around a racist old coot. Why they’re involved with this is puzzling, because the overall thrust of the movement has been agitating for increased government oversight on Wall Street and banks and increased taxes on millionaires, which is something Ron Paul categorically opposes as being “un constitutional.” They want your money and your vote.

 Underline mine.

As the savvy are aware, the Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty was never far from the 9/11 "truth" conspiracy franchise, what with Ron Paul's wingman Lew Rockwell up to his eyeballs in Craig "killtown" Lazo's 911 movement forum. 

Zeitgeist deserves mention since it was pushed aggressively in "truther" circles at one time as a new "paradigm" or some-such.

911blogger.com/topics/zeitgeist

-Zeitgeist
UFO cult associated with something called The Venus Project, which is debunked in a very thorough manner here. The long and short of it is that they want your money.

One blog promoting Zeitgeist was frank about the vague mysteriousness or the promotional literature, often a "tell" of cult bait/switch:

 http://911blogger.com/news/2007-07-05/zeitgeist-movie-dvd-downloading-0

 Poor blogging
And poor website. After reading this blog, I know absolutely nothing about the film.
So I took the time to go to the website, and after looking at it, I know absolutely nothing about the film.
I don't even know why it would be a good reason and worth my time to go to the website, or watch the film.

 It's supposed to be a bit of a mystery
Therefore you don't get a long synopsis, only the Q: "What does Christianity, 911 and The Federal Reserve have in common?"
But in the blog, just look at the pictures here, the pictures.
Come on now, dear doughnut, just click the play button, you will not be wasting your time. Then tell us what you thought of it.

Seriously?   He needs to waste 2 hours of his life before he has any idea if it's worth it?

Another charming thread about Zeitgeist, with links to the Cassiopeia cult, and David Cole boosters like this guy:

Sorry pal, but after the monstrous 9/11 lie, why should anyone be shocked that 9/11 was not the first time history has been embellished and/or just plain made up? I would be surprised if 9/11 was the only or the biggest historical distortion of our ruling classes! War is always a tragedy for civilians, just ask the residents of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Oh it was a "just war" alright! It was very just the way everyone except the wealthy backers of both sides (the same people of course) got to suffer equally. 6 million is a symbolic number that has been used even after the official mainstream accepted number killed at Auschwitz was reduced from 4 million to 1 million. Everything you want people to think about those who question the official holocaust narrative is in fact true of those who helped to cause and have since manipulated, misrepresented, and profited from genuine suffering of Jewish people during WW2. The lies and gross exaggerations of Zionists were just atrocity propaganda sanctioned by the victors of the war and used to justify the theft of Palestinian land conveniently near the world's oil fields so that european imperialists could hide behind the seemingly noble cause of restitution to Jewish victims of German war crimes.
For those shocked to read such things, be sure to look up the work of Jewish holocaust revisionist David Cole, and see what ended up happening to him for daring to question the official history. 9/11 Truthers should learn from his experience trying to bring the truth to people who don't want to hear it!
____
♠
Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero
WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force
NEW---> check out our revamped site!

Real Truther on Tue, 06/12/2007 - 3:13pm.

 And this guy:

When you look at what was done to David Cole...

Historian David Irving and many others who only search for truth you will know that the we're in the "violently opposed" stage of Holocaust discussion. Prof. Tony Martin is another example of someone, who merely questioned the Jewish role in the trans-Atlantic slave trade (and no more so than any other European race), and was attacked & threatened mercilessly.
It's the information age folks, put it to use.

Big_D on Tue, 06/12/2007 - 10:10pm.

Yes, poor, poor, poor David Cole-Stein the Con Man:

 http://jennyquarx.blogspot.com/2014/01/holocaust-denier-cole-infiltrates.html

Turns out he was less "oppressed" than just wanted to reinvent himself after deep professional embarrassment.  It's notable none of Cole super fans have flocked back to him after his outing.

But I digress.    Or perhaps when loons infiltrate a popular movement, the lunacy is doomed to propagate.

Viva La Madness.

Let's end on a hilarious exchange from the comments:

M. Kaney

October 29, 2011 at 10:34 pm

By the way, I will be straight up and not try to dance around it. It is your classic portrayal of Ron as a crazy racist old coot.. that classic talking point that requires no independent thought or acknowledgement of a brilliant man is what gives you away as an infiltrator yourself. Like him or hate him, most of the people in the movement have been open enough to have intelligent and sincere conversations about the man and the ideas he champions. That’s what gave you away, your lack of intellectual humility.

Thelibertylamp

October 30, 2011 at 12:00 am

What ideas are those? That 95% of all black males in DC are criminals? That global warming is a myth? That evolution doesn’t exist? That the economy needs to be placed squarely in the hands of precious metals speculators? That labor unions have no right to exist? That abortion should be criminalized? That governmental regulation of private industry is a flawed idea? That banks and capitalism need to exist in an environment unhindered and unfettered by pesky regulations? Ron Paul’s only contribution is that his rhetoric variously demands either the auditing or abolition of the federal reserve– but there is no plan after that. We’ve always had a sincere position on Ron Paul: he’s a racist, theocratic old man who– apart from being profoundly anti-labor– is an advocate of the highest degree for the privileges of the ultra-rich to live without having to contribute anything to the communities in which they live.
And what about this term you threw in at the end– “intellectual humility?” Are you using this term because you mean to imply we are violating Mill’s credo that we are not humble about what we don’t know– that we are arrogant and close-minded? Or instead do you mean that we should humble ourselves before your sacred cows because we might offend you? Instead of readily dismissing criticisms of Paul for whatever reason, perhaps the entire Ron Paul movement needs to practice some intellectual humility of its own. I am sick and tired of seeing reams of denials and apologetics about Ron Paul’s racism in his own paper from members of his movement– when people are presented with incontrovertible statements (and even video footage, with regards to the evolution statement) from people about their political opinions, they generally understand those statements are those of the person making them. The overwhelming, rote, scripted chorus from the Ron Paul movement is “he didn’t really say that” or “he didn’t really mean that.” Who’s practicing “intellectual humility” now?

And for anyone in doubt about the source of Paul's opinion on Blacks, the environment, etc, look no further than Ron Paul's own new letters, written by Paul himself.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul_newsletters
 http://wrongpaul.tumblr.com/post/16331619798/http-ronpaulnewsletters-blogspot-com

Ba-DUM.

Mia Dolan on Eric Hufschmid, 911truth, at Daily Kos

There was a time Eric Hufschmid had the distinction of publishing one of the few books with good clear photos of the WTC towers as they collapsed on 9/11.  Unfortunately, even back before I knew he was a Nazi lover, his ending screed was full of crazy talk.  I spoke of Hufschmid's book with an individual who would go on to be a Nazi apologist, and whom at the time also gave no indication they knew Eric was a Nazi lover.  This is interesting because this same person would go on a crusade in early 2007 to have Eric removed as an organizer in the Arizona conference due to his sudden new book about Auschwitz.  [Correction: It was Eric D. Williams who was involved with the Arizona conference, not Eric Hufschmid.  However the rest of the points and associations re: Holocaust denial still stand.]This gave them some brief anti fascist cred...until they became a moderator at a website pushing softcore Nazi apologism.


But here's the kicker:  the webmaster of that website was told Hufschmid was bad news all the way back in 2006, when they both were members of Holocaust denier Jim Fetzer's Scholars for 911 Truth group.

The person who brought this up was a Daily Kos user by the nick Mia Dolan.   Therefore any objections to Holocaust denial in 2007 by the same people pretending not to associate with them was a scam perpetrated on leftists, hoping they would never look up the scammers posts on DKos.  Which, if they thought about it for two seconds, was pretty dumb:  of course leftists are going to wonder what the hell these closet Nazi losers were publishing on a lefty website.  If nothing else, for laughs.

Ladies and Gentelmen, I give you the outstanding posts of Mia Dolan on the
"Truth" Movement.  I'm only sorry I didn't discover them much sooner.

On Eric Hufschmid: thread starts   http://www.dailykos.com/comments/196456/5352917#c132
  

Cross-examiners?
Jim Fetzer and the Scholars group are professional liars.  There is no testing against inconsistencies - no scientific of evidentiary analysis at all.   My conspiracy theory is that they are being paid by Republicans to undermine any real investigation into Bush's 9/11-related negligences.

by Mia Dolan on Thu Mar 23, 2006 at 08:30:32 PM PST

I'm a member of the group 
I'm not paid by republicans to defend my country from people who murder my fellow citizens and human beings and blame it on Muslims.  Who's paying you to shield these criminals Mia?  Do you really think that Americans are that stupid?  You're a character assassin, pure and simple.

by Gretavo on Fri Mar 24, 2006 at 04:25:55 PM PST

What group? 
The Scholars?  Do you deny that Eric Hufshcmid is a holocaust denier?  

by Mia Dolan on Sat Mar 25, 2006 at 01:29:28 PM PST

Please cite his holocaust denying work 
and i'll let you know.  i haven't come across anything of the kind, but would like to know why you think he denies the holocaust.

by Gretavo on Thu Mar 30, 2006 at 03:28:44 PM PST

Ok, you asked for it 
Here is the link  [http://www.erichufschmid.net/Conspiracies12.htm]
Here are my favorite parts:

This gas chamber was not disguised as a shower. In fact, I would expect the skull and crossbones to frighten people.  (photos available on original site)  This particular photo has been used as evidence that Nazis had gas chambers for killing people, but the Holocaust Truth Seekers complain that  those particular chambers were designed to kill lice in bedding and clothing.  Typhus and lice were serious problem in parts of Europe during World War II. The U.S. Army discovered that DDT will kill the lice. The Germans discovered that cyanide would kill them.
Most Americans have "common sense", and common sense tells us that those gas chambers were for mass executions of people, not mass executions of lice.
However, if the goal of the Nazis to kill the prisoners, common sense would tell us that there were thousands of much easier, much less expensive methods. For example, they could have put prisoners on the trains that have the windows sealed shut. As the trains are rolling down the track, the Nazis could release poison gas. The trains would dump the bodies for burial, and then go back to pick up another load of prisoners.  There was no sensible reason to transport prisoners to a camp where they would have to be fed, especially when you consider that food was in short supply during the final years of the war. Even in America there were shortages of food. Why would the Nazis waste their time, money, and resources keeping these prisoners alive if their goal was to kill them?
And why did the Nazis bother to protect the prisoners from typhus and lice? Why not put the prisoners in the camp, shut the gates, and let the lice and typhus kill them?  
We may never know the true details of what happened at the Nazi prison camps, but just looking at a few of the photos and just thinking about the issue for a few minutes should make you realize that something is seriously wrong with the official story.

Before you say anything about Nazis, look through the photos and do some research. Do you even know where the archives of photos are? How many American professors of history have looked at these archives?
How can anybody be given a degree in history and referred to as an expert in history if he has not even looked at the photos of the Nazi camps? How can Ameircan universities be considered "educational" institutions when students are graduating with almost no understanding of what happened just a few decades ago? The photos shows that some Nazi prisons were real prisons, and some were slave labor camps, but none of them were extermination centers. Germany was losing the war during the final years, and they were desperate for military supplies. The Nazis began rounding up the unwanted people for the labor camps.
The prisoners were given beds and food because they were making supplies for the German military. The Nazis wanted to keep the prisoners free of lice and typhus because sickly, miserable prisoners do not make good workers.

Have I misinterpreted this?  Am I just overstating some legitimate criticism of Israeli foreign policy?  You tell me.   By the way, according to Hufschmid the moon landings were also a hoax.

by Mia Dolan on Thu Mar 30, 2006 at 04:52:34 PM PST

where does he say it didn't happen?
I'm not saying I necessarily agree with his analysis but there is a huge difference between DENYING that the Nazis killed millions of Jews (or millions of Russians, Roma, gays, etc.) and questioning specific claims of wrongdoing.  Just because the Nazis were evil (and they were!) does not mean we can accuse them of anything we feel like.  Nothing you quote up there points to anything other than a desire to hold all history, even the history of Jewish suffering, to rigorous standards of truth.  The way you and others throw around terms like "holocaust denier" has nothing to do with truth and everything to do with slander and libel.  Thankfully, people are waking up by the millions to the fact that we cannot trust official accounts of anything.  9-11 is just the latest case of this and one that represents a gross miscalculation by the liars behind it.
Finally, on the moon landing issue, I have not yet taken the time to examine Eric's arguments.  My tendency has always been to dismiss that particular conspiracy theory but I probably will look at the case he makes soon and let you know what I think.  I would never dismiss the possibility that Hufschmid is a plant intending to discredit the truth movement, on the other hand.  His specific criticisms of the official history of Nazi concentration camps does not strike me as reflecting in any way sympathy with Nazis or their cause, which is something you seem very keen to establish on rather weak grounds.  You've shown in your own treatment of the case of 9-11 a remarkable willingness to believe impossible things in order to preserve your Osama did it comfort zone--that to me indicates that you may well harbor prejudices against Muslims, but I wouldn't go so far as to accuse you of denying the fact that the Israeli military has killed hundreds of innocent Palestinians, even if you argued that those murders were justified or the scale of them exaggerated.

by Gretavo on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 11:42:50 AM PDT

Holy crap
Huffschmid writes that the gas chambers were for de-lousing jews, not killing them.    If you really can't figure out what kind of person he is, then you are an idiot.  I think you can, though, so I will stick with my original conclusion:  you are a vile disgusting piece of shit.  If anything, I think you are a plant to discredit the 9-11 truth movement.  If you google yourself, you will see links stating that you actually work for the CIA.

by Mia Dolan on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 08:06:24 PM PDT

Um, a tin foil hat for Mia please! 
And you call us the looney conspiracy theorists.  Not only do you believe that exploding toner cartridges are what the FDNY repeatedly witnessed in the towers, but you also think the CIA is out to get you.  I realize you're in a bind Mia, but you are really scraping the bottom of the barrel here.  Pray, where do you get this idea that googling Gretavo (short for Greta Von Dutch, my super secret alias) leads to the CIA?

by Gretavo on Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:48:42 AM PDT

www.google.com 
Someone named Gustavo Espada, who is a staff assistant at Harvard, goes by the nickname Gretavo on the web, is a member of the scholars group, and posts 9/11 conspiracy theories elsewhere.  Is that not you?

by Mia Dolan on Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 12:46:34 PM PDT

wow Mia! do you prefer Reynolds or store brand? 
Again, you said I'm a plant and work for the CIA.  Wrong.  You say, without evidence, that 19 mostly dead hijackers flew planes on 9-11.  Wrong.  You think WTC 7 had no explosives to help bring it down when it had only two little fires on a pair of floors.  Wrong.  You think the Israeli "art-students" were "tracking Arabs" before 9-11.  Wrong.  You say a 757 pierced 3 rings of the Pentagon leaving a nice neat hole in the third ring after penetrating 9 feet of reinforced concrete and then disappeared.  Wrong.  Everything you say you believe, Mia, is wrong.  Even that your name is really Mia Dolan.  As in Mia Dolan the famous psychic?  For all I know, YOU are Gustavo Espada, who seems from the google search I did to be a super spy involved in all kinds of crazy things, judging by the rants of someone who likes to post to indymedia sites around the world.  Really Mia, I think you need a rest.  Jacky Chiles has been working you awfully hard no doubt!

by Gretavo on Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 01:53:00 PM PDT

So Mia and others already knew who he was in 2006.  For the record, it's doubtful this clown is a direct CIA asset, however much he acted like one.  Far more likely his family is friends of friends working in government offices who are exploiting their positions to push a Nazi lite agenda and "gretavo" just helps out where he can.  Since con artists and intellegence agents use simular technigues, what better way to hide the con, than encouraging the idea there are COINTELPRO agents or "shills"?  When they're caught screwing with people, the targets assume the government is behind it and are afraid to report them.  It's one of the few strokes of genius these evil clowns came up with.

Pity it doesn't work any more:

Deception/fraud: TXXXXXX, JXXXXXX, 911blogger LLC, and others

Thursday, January 2, 2014

From: 

XXXXXXXXXXX@yahoo.com

To: 

antitrust(AT)ftc.gov

Hello;

I'm writing a complaint about these companies websites:  911blogger.com(9/11 Blogger Llc/TXXXX, JXXXX), and by extension, ae911truth.org(Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth/RXXXXX), rethink911.org(RXXXXX) and wtcdemolition.com(GXXXXX/SXXXXXX)....

The real CIA wouldn't want anything to do with the level of criminal liability these idiots have created with their Byzantine online confidence games.

Thank you Mia Dolan, wherever you are.


Edit:  

Turns out Hufschmid wasn't completely unknown to 911blogger in 2007.  There was an interview published in Jan 2005:

http://911blogger.com/archive/2005/01/eric-hufschmid-interview.html

The wayback machine shows Huffies Holocaust denial material was published at least by April 2005:

https://web.archive.org/web/20050406193450/http://www.erichufschmid.net/Conspiracies12.htm

Which is vitually unchanged from the current page[now hosted at http://hugequestions.com/Eric/Conspiracies12.htm ]

It's possible the page didn't exist in Jan of 2005, but it's more likely DZ didn't dig through the website; none of the Holocaust bollox is easily found on the first page Jan of 2005:

https://web.archive.org/web/20050130174735/http://erichufschmid.net/

But DZ might have had a clue all was not well  when this guy clearly doubts the Moon landings, which is on the front page:

https://web.archive.org/web/20050130174735/http://erichufschmid.net/Science_Challenge_24.html

Update  June 2014: 

It appears Gustavo Espada , and many others, have never stopped being members of Jim Fetzer Scholar's group:

www.scholarsfor911truth.org/21-2/

Currently, Scholars for 9/11 Truth has four categories of members: full members (FM), who have or have had academic appointments or the equivalent; associate members (AM), who have backgrounds and interests relevant to 9/11 research; and student members (SM), who are concerned about these issues and want to pursue them. The special category of society associate (SA) exists for others who wish to publicly support the association.
The presently enrolled members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth are as follows:

[scroll down to associate members]

 Associate Members Sterling D. Allan (AM)

New Energy Congress, Founder, PES Network, Inc, Executive Director

Garry Anaquod (AM)

Sessional instructor, First Nations University of Canada

Robert Anderson (AM)

Magazine Free-Lance Contributing Editor

James Arft (AM)

America First Party

Victoria Ashley (AM)

Architecture and physiological psychology, 911research.wtc7.net

Gwendolyn Atwood (AM)

Clinical psychologist, Ed.D., Harvard University

John C. Austin (AM)

Juris Doctorate; Music publishing; Radio broadcasting

Steve Baer (AM)

Solar energy, Manufacturing

David Benson (AM)

Actor; Conspiracy Theories; Edinburgh Fringe Festival

Michael Berger (AM)

Speaker, Spokesman, 911Truth.org

Mark S. Bilk (AM)

Computer programmer; Electronics technician/engineer; cosmicpenguin.com/911

Steve Bishop  (AM)

Information Technology

Kevin Bracken (AM)

Victorian Branch Secretary of the Maritime Union of Australia

Len Bracken (AM)

Credentialed Journalist, Graduate of GWU’s Elliott School of International Affairs,
Author of “Shadow Government: 9/11 and State Terror”

Jordan Brewster (AM)

Conspiracies

James Roger Brown (AM)

Director, The Sociology Center; Congressional Evidence Book Author

Fred Burks (AM)

Served for many years as a language interpreter for presidents and other dignitaries. WantToKnow.info/911information

D’Anne Burley (AM) 

Talk Show Host, Truthradio, RBNLIVE.COM

John Cameron (AM)

American politics

Bill Carlson (AM)

Webmaster, groups.yahoo.com/group/wrh/

Frank Carmen (AM)

Physics Ph.D., BYU

Thom Clark (AM)

Registered geologist, Environmental geologist

Muhammad Columbo (AM)

Graduate Engineer electronics wide industrial experience

Michael Copass  (AM)

Microbiology, Vaccinology, Immunology

Tim Costello (AM)

Consultant/Promoter

Judy Cunningham (AM)

Health Education, Counseling and Rehabilitation

Rose Davis (AM)

Publisher, Indian Voices

Steve De’ak (AM)

Network professional

Thaddeus Dombrowski (AM)

Mathematics, Computer science, Software engineering

Karel Donk (AM)

Multimedia and Web Design

Eric Douglas (AM)

New York City architect Chair of the Independent Peer Review Committe for the NIST WTC Reports at nistreview.org

Dominic Dudzik (AM)

Physics simulations, Electrical engineering

Brian Duncan (AM)

Fire Protection Engineering; Art and Creative Director; The Flywire, theflywire.com

Curtis T. Dunlap (AM)

Weather forecaster, Global Hawk technology

John Ekonomou (AM)

Attorney at Law

Gustavo Espada (AM)

Media and Culture, Administrator, Harvard University

Scott Fenton (AM)

Physics, Chemistry, Information Technology

Joel Ferrell (AM)

Pilot, Aeronautical engineer,  physics911.net/spine.htm

Bill Fikes, Jr. (AM)

U.S. Army, Website construction

Alex Floum (AM)

Attorney.

Which puts this post in perspective:
[from  http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/3488  ]

everything you need to know about Fetzer...

Submitted by gretavo on Fri, 2014-03-07 04:08.

Jim Fetzer: "I must say I think we're finding out Judy, what happened on 9/11. I'm just blown away by your work. This is the most fascinating development in the history of the study of 9/11 ... I'm going to make a wild guess Judy; I'm going to presume that these [directed energy] beams had to be located in Building 7?"
Judy Wood: "Nope. I don't think so."
Fetzer: "Planes?"
Judy Wood: "No ... I think it's very likely it's in orbit."
Fetzer: "Oh Really?? Oh ho ho ho ho! Oh Judy. Oh my oh my oh my oh my. This is huge ... this is huge Judy."
Non-Random Thoughts on RBN Live: Jim Fetzer interviews Judy Wood; November 11, 2006

Or this : http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/2766

Scholars for 9/11 Truth
 Submitted by gretavo on Thu, 2010-05-13 22:03.  The "charlatan" group formed by Fetzer after his split with Steven Jones.

Yeah, whatever.

Fraud and deception are such ugly words...but accurate.  Just take a look at Fetzer's Sandy Hook fiasco:


http://www.twincities.com/ci_22313176/retired-umd-professor-theorizes-that-government-behind-newtown

It won't end well...