Craig "Killtown" Lazo's ex-girlfriend finally meets Karma

...And you know what the say about "Karma".  Let's just say it's unlikely they'll become bosom pals....

Sometime late last year the Oregonian did an article on state employees being paid a ridiculous amount of money to not do their job, while spending an equally ridiculous amount of time spreading conspiracies on social media:

 Jennifer Wynhausen walked into Pioneer Courthouse Square with a message emblazoned on her black t-shirt: “9/11 is a (expletive) lie.”

Ah, yes, the T-shirt.  The same one JW submitted to the Holocaust denying website nogw, IIRC. 

Despite her controversial and outspoken stances on what she perceives as federal government conspiracies and lies, leaders at Oregon’s Department of Human Services have entrusted her for years to carry out a vital role of government transparency. She coordinates reviews of child abuse deaths.

There are not enough facepalms in the world.  Firstly, this lying conspiracy hoor cannot logically believe in the existence of government conspiracies(at least she can't believe she's a target of them) because SHE WORKS FOR THE GOVERNMENT.  Secondly...well, there is no secondly, because that's it.  She doesn't believe in this garbage.  OR she's completely out of touch with reality.
 But maybe she's actually doing something useful for humanity...

A story published Sunday by The Oregonian/OregonLive exposed the department’s delays, omissions and failures to comply with state law since March 2017. The department continues to withhold at least two child fatality reports from the public.

Wynhausen has coordinated the fatality reviews since at least November 2014. She was no longer listed as coordinator in a September 2018 organizational chart. A department spokeswoman said Wynhausen’s new job title was erroneous, but did not specify why or say when, if ever, Wynhausen stopped coordinating fatality reviews.

The question should be, did she ever start?  As in, did she ever do this job, as in actually work, like a normal, non entitled, non racist white woman?  the more one reads, JW career has all the markers of Affirmative Action/Welfare For Lazy White Racist Libertarians.   JW is paid in excess of 80K a year to not investigate child deaths.  Meanwhile, she's bitching on social media about the Messicans not paying taxes:

In response to a story about the economic impact of immigration in September 2010, she wrote, “If they are earning so much money, buying homes, etc, they should be paying taxes!!”

As I have recently reminded JW's moronic ex boyfriend, in my ample(as in excess of several gigabytes) archives of JW's sleazy conspiracy group, I'm sure there must be some screen captures/saved pages from Lazo's old forum of her praising Russo's "From Freedom to Fascism", a film that at it's core claims income tax is illegal "tyranny".   So this is an interesting change in perspective.

It's as if Wynhausen has no real principles or beliefs, but is willing to flog any anti-government, racist idea to promote her reactionary, gun humping, Tea Bagger agenda. 

The really sick thing is she's still exploiting a man who only got involved with 9/11 conspiracy theories because he genuinely believed the surviving widows were being treated unfairly.  Unfortunately, like many good hearted souls preyed on by conmen (and conwomen) he is unable to see he's being played.  Oh, and failed peace activist Cindy Sheehan, becoming problematic in 2005, then outright loony, last see blaming Israel for her son's death, makes an appearance:

“I’m totally going to steal these pictures,” Wynhausen wrote in a public comment under the photos. “I got to meet two amazing people!!”

Who knows where those pics might end up....


From comments:

Bad Judgement:

Doesn't trust the gubmint, but sure loves that gubbmint pay check:

There are many more good ones: commenting on JW mental instability, disconnection from reality, etc.  Even someone wailing on Faceplace that she might "lose her job!"   They clearly underestimate the power of a White Racist's Alligator Tears of Woe.  Its an act JW is adept at, explaining the baffling fact she's being paid 90+K to perform a job she's clearly not qualified for.

But the most clueless comment comes from someone completely snowblinded by JW act of a poor hapless innocent, being unfairly treated:

"Sham on Molly for attacking one of the most ethical and hardworking DHS employees..."

Oh dear.   This one really did fall off the Turnip Truck.  Let's share examples of JW's "most ethical" behavior:


Spreading lies about Val McClatchey faking the photo she took on 9/11:

At Loose Change Forums:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/loosechangeforum/let-39-s-publicly-comdemn-this-harrassment-t15457.html#p14584792

How has Killtown harassed her?

 https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/loosechangeforum/let-39-s-publicly-comdemn-this-harrassment-t15457-s20.html#p14586385

AGAIN, how is she being harassed? Should we stop harassing people like Larry Silverstein?

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/loosechangeforum/let-39-s-publicly-comdemn-this-harrassment-t15457-s20.html#p14587120

Clearly this photo is falsified, which at the very least indicates that she was complicit in a crime. So, I would expect her to be involved in the cover up of that crime, so how is that harassment? Is it harassment, questioning whether or not the photo is real? Or is questioning her motives, financial or otherwise harassment? This woman has clearly profited off of 911. Look at the skank, the evolution of her appearance...

 https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/loosechangeforum/let-39-s-publicly-comdemn-this-harrassment-t15457-s20.html#p14587125

 Stop harassing Silverstein, are you serious? 

 https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/loosechangeforum/let-39-s-publicly-comdemn-this-harrassment-t15457-s20.html#p14588482

I read what Killtown wrote about the photo, actually read it. That's what people do when they are genuinely interested in learning or uncovering the truth, they read all of the information and make an objective decision on what is plausible and what is not. It seems possible to me that the photo is altered, perhaps not by "Stooge," herself, rather by the FBI. Why would 3 FBI agents show up at her house within a half an hour, confiscate her camera and her memory card? I thought they had also taken her hard drive as well.

Thanks for the links. I see how Mrs. McClatchey talks about being harassed, however I have yet to see where Killtown found her private, personal information and published it for every conspiracy theorist to start harassing her. I have seen where she, herself, posts her personal information in order to for people to order copies of "The End of Serenity."

(This is interesting because it seems to show Wynhausen does know the difference between personal information volunteered without coercion or fraud, and information acquired by deception and fraud.  Just something to note.  Also, while Lazo may not have fraudulently acquired Val's info, he did encourage his online goons to harass her.)


At International Skeptics Forum:

Xena the Worrisome Internet Stalker

 http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3328294&postcount=114

 You are "not a researcher but an activist"??? This means you just follow your boyfriends blindly into troofdom?

Pretty much.


And that's not including sleazier activities like turning a blind eye to JW's Canadian friend "Ozzybinoswald" who was remixing conspiracy propaganda videos with creepy images of under-aged girls and stalking a man's autistic children....


Yes.... Many Ethic.  Much moral.
 

Kevin Ryan: Ghosting for Griffin to Keep the Truther Con Afloat?

 I rarely write about trutherism these days.  In fact one of my greatest desires is to never write about trutherism again.  Alas, the fraudulent antics of Craig Lazo his ex and his fellow scammers make that impossible until they delete all the material they should never have published...10 years ago.  Anyone who'd like me to utterly loose my interest in what the truther con is doing, should probably talk to Lazo about that.

That said, it's come to my attention truther icon David Ray Griffin is about to release another book.  Lazo's buddy "pat" at Screw Loose Change writes:

David Ray Griffin Comes Up With a Brilliant Way to Dupe People Into Buying His New Book

Gotta hand it to him, this is a real con artist at work:

Not make it obvious, by means of the title, the cover, or the table of contents--that this is ultimately a 9-11 truth book.

However, you can see the fly rapidly heading towards the ointment in this following sentence:

    The hope is that some people, not being aware of my notoriety, read enough of the first part of the book to see that I am not an idiot.

But "pat aka Brainless" hasn't done his due diligence.  Either that or he, like most of the scammers, is invested in pushing one message.  It's really hard to tell.  Ages ago, in some long deleted comments thread, he or one of his fans tried to claim I had Nazis sympathies.  That was so whew! 'out of nowhere', I always suspected he had an agenda(alternately a certain idiot was feeding him lies).  Learning in early 2010 he'd always known that the Holocaust denying, alt-right troll "Killtown" was Craig Lazo only confirmed my suspicions "pat" was a disingenuous political operator.

Anyway, the point is "pat" either has an agenda, or is thinking readers aren't smart enough to check his research.  In the link to the announcement at Journal of 9/11 Studies, one can download David Ray Griffin's announcement. Except it wasn't written by David Ray Griffin.  It was written by Kevin Ryan.

The idea DRG was writing anything should have been suspect.  Even "pats" terminally gullible blog co-owner states a common thought:

James B. said...
I didn't know he was still alive.

27 September, 2016 12:56

He's still alive, but last we heard he has serious health problems, though they cleared up a bit so he could have an interview with White Supremacist supporter

and Holocaust denier Kevin Barrett, as relayed by one of Craig Lazo's penpals who is rumoured to run the Harvard 9/11 truth email list:

David Ray Griffin, Health Recovered, Gives Interview on Kevin Barrett Show

Submitted by gretavo on Mon, 2011-05-16 13:35.

With my standard disclaimer that I do not trust Kevin Barrett very much, here is a repost of the 911blogger post about this, which I copy along with comments because of the evidence therein of fake truth infiltrators including Victronix, YT, Vulich, SnowCrash, Jules, kdub, Gareth and jimd3100 (a few of whom are no doubt sockpuppets of some of the others) doing everything they can to discourage people from listening to Prof. Griffin.  Hear the interview here.

So I guess it's nice of Ryan to step in and take over writing duties.

Now someone is going to say,  well maybe Ryan wrote the announcement for Griffin.  Sorry, if DRG is up to writing a WHOLE BLOODY BOOK, I think he could manage a glorified press release.

Next, Ryan was using his computer and the PDF settings.  Yeah, sure, whatever floats your truther con boat.  This is the same Kevin Ryan who claimed to be a whistle-blower after being fired from UL laboratories.  He was also involved in the previous publishing fraud the Bentham Paper, which for some reason I don't have a blog about.  Must correct that.  Until then Rationalwiki does a good job covering the basics:

Membership of a journal's editorial board can be quite prestigious, but when people realised what sort of company they were dealing with and withdrew their acceptance, Bentham kept their names on the masthead and ignored all demands for removal.^[1] In April 2009, the Open Chemical Physics Journal published an article advocating 9/11 conspiracy theories without anyone bothering to inform the journal's editor, who promptly resigned.^[5]

This aroused the interest of the curious, and Bentham was busted in 2009 accepting a paper for the Open Information Science Journal consisting of random sentences computer-generated with SCIgen, whose imaginary authors both worked at the Center for Research in Applied Phrenology (CRAP).^[6][7] The editor of said journal also quit when he found out what the publisher had done.^[8] Bentham's director of publication claimed they merely sent a fake acceptance to flush out the hoaxer,^[4] but no-one believes him.

So, it's not a surprise Ryan would ghost DRG announcement of his soon to be published book.  The only question that remains is, given how fragile DRG is health wise and given Ryan willingness to engage in less than ethical behaviour in the past, did Ryan actually write DRG new book?

It wouldn't be illegal, but it would raise questions of why he would do it.  Why not, instead, co-write it?  It would accomplish the same thing--issue a new truther propaganda piece to rally the troops--but without the embarrassment of exposure.

Who can tell what goes through the minds of "truther" frauds. Even after I knew the entire "truther" movement was a scam, it baffled me how stupidly it was orchestrated. (I am assuming they didn't want anyone to discover it was a fraud.  I could be wrong....)

 They literally only got as far as they did by a combination of riding the anti-war/anti-Bush wave and pure dumb luck.  As for this new Griffin(Ryan?) book, it'll be interesting to see how many copies sell.   A Google search of the title shows no conspiracy site related searches apart from Journal of 9/11 Studies and Brainless' SLC blog at this time.

Hey, little Lurker, what are you doing?

Title total rip off of "Hey Little Girl".

I have a lurker.  Everybody wave!

Not that they know I know they're lurking.

Many were the lurkers in trutherism...


The Bad:

CIT supporters and enablers worried about their "hit list" with information acquired fraudulently, though not worried enough to remove it:
 

 "casseia": 15 visits between Aug 9, 2009 and Aug 15, 2009 from Comcast Cable (24.xxx-xxx-xxx)

Fetzer's friend Gustavo Espada: 14 visits between Aug 9, 2009 and Aug 14, 2009  from at least 4 ISPs, two of which were Harvard,  

Harvard University (140.247.112-xxx) and (140.247.249-xxx)

"Brainster": 1 visit Aug 11, 2009, proving he was well aware of CIT activities.
 Cox Communications (68.xxx-xxx-xxx)

Adam Syed(a conman who I have recently been informed has a relationship with Espada going back to 2007, notable because in 2008 he contacted the then webmasters under false pretences, claiming to share "concerns" about Espada.):  3 visits from Aug 13 2009 to Aug 15 2009

 And of course multiple visits from Craig Ranke from multiple ISPs, 35 from this one alone: Cox Communications (68.xxx-xxx-xxx)

For people involved in pushing a fraud, they were awfully  cavalier about their Internet browsing habits.

The Worse:

Antisemites and their enablers worried that Holocaust denial was getting the kicking it deserved...but not worried enough to stop trying to recuit leftists into "trutherism":

truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6456

Casseia: May 28, 2010 to April 23, 2010 (24.xxx-xxx-xxx)

Jennifer Wynhausen(possibly Craig Lazo on her computer): April 29, 2010 (76.xxx-xxx-xxx))

Espada: April 24, 2010 to May 26, 2010, multiple ISPs, including Harvard and residence(98.xxx-xxx-xxx)

Syed:     May 28, 2010 to April 23, 2010 (71.xxx-xxx-xxx)

Brainster: April 24, 2010 to May 27, 2010 (71.xxx-xxx-xxx), proving he was 100% aware I was not and had never been a Holocaust Denier, ergo any involvement in "trutherism" had to be a con.  Because, how else would that happen?

The Really Bad:

Last post supporting trutherism, with a clear intent to move on.

 911blogger.com/news/2010-06-03/if-itpart-6-jennys-eagle

Anyone reading this and claiming I was still involved was spreading lies and knew it:

Portland State University, almost certainly "Casseia":  June 3, 2010(131.xxx-xxx-xxx)

 Espada:  June 4, 2010 (Harvard University 140.xxx-xxx-xxx)
Syed: June 3, 2010 to April 22, 2012 (let it go, sheesh...)(Road Runner 24.xxx-xxx-xxx)

And someone in Madision, WI I suspect is Kevin Barrett:   71.xxx-xxx-xxx

The Ugly:

My 'best friend' Craig Lazo and Jennifer lurking for material to invent their blackmail lies:

truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=34638

Wynhausen:  Nov 26, 2009  Comcast Cable (76.xxx-xxx-xxx)
(This is the same ISP account Craig lazo used to browse another thread  on Oct 11, 2008)

Mention must be made of "Casseia" who visited the thread earlier in November, and probably directed the Kt Crew to it: Comcast Cable (24.xxx-xxx-xxx)


So, those are some of my lurkers, and what a sleazy bunch they are.


But I have a new lurker now, sniffing around an old 911Blogger thread:

 http://911blogger.com/news/2009-02-09/heroes-metaphor-and-evolution-911-activism-part-1

This one is using an ipad from a static ISP in Liverpool:  (188.xxx-xxx-xxx) and seems to be taking an unhealthy interest in my past online activities, for at least 11 hours. This makes me wonder if new lies are being spun as we speak.

Which would be very, very bad for the people who own a couple of the top 911 website properties who have been informed this is exactly the sort of thing they should not do any more. 

No, I'm not talking about 911blogger, though if the owners of that dodgy website had honored my request to delete my account, and every post there, because I want nothing I've written to go to supporting a fraud...weeeell, I wouldn't know this creepy git--presumably a friend of theirs-was snooping about.

See, years ago, after being conned into trutherism, as soon as I realized something odd was going on, I took it upon myself to contact people who really know how the Internet works.  As a result, I know quite a bit about who has been lying about what.  And updates still come in.

The creeps should chew on that a mo.

After 2008, I always knew who was talking to whom, and that they were frauds.  I just didn't understand why.  It took a while to lose the idea these creeps were government agents, and see them for the political con artists they are.


Back to lurker. I could be wrong about them.  Maybe, he/she is just stumbled across that blog.  Except, as old as it is, the only way they could do that is through the old profile...that is only there because the owners of that dodgy website have not honored my request to delete my account and every post there.  Playing the odds, this is a creep working on some new creepiness.

Some advice?  Stop while you're ahead. 

Craig Lazo sure wishes he had.

Whatever Happened to Troy from West Virginia?

As 2014 closes and the 911 "truth" scam is gasping it's last dying breath, my thoughts go back to trolls of yesteryear, one of the sleaziest a man Troy Sexton, who styled himself as "Troy from West Virginia".

Troy made himself something of a "debunker" celebrity confronting "truthers" who almost always were never the actual architects of the truther con.

For instance Troy never bothered Steven "Earth Quake Machines" Jones, Kevin "Nazi apologist" Barrett or my bestest buddy in the world, Craig Lazo aka Killtown and his obsession with Suzanne Jovin and Val McClatchey.   Nope, almost without fail, much like the fake debunker Jaye Powers, Troy targeted people who were duped into the truth movement.  His motives are unclear, but the effect was to support the idea "agents" were trying to disrupt activism, therefore giving a false confirmation to people duped that their activism is real.

Troy's greatest hits include sending nasty emails as Joey P, examples posted at 911blogger:

http://911blogger.com/news/2007-04-25/troy-west-virginia-crosses-line-william-rodriguez

Today folks, Troy from west Virginia has crossed a line.
Troy sent many emails to William that rival the thoughts of Cho Seung-Hui. I have personally never seen more hate filled text in my entire life. I was utterly beside myself at the things that Troy said in his letters.
The FBI hate crimes div has been contacted. I am going to include the text of the letters sent to William by Troy. I will edit the cuss words. I am working with William personally to bring Troy to justice.
WARNING...THESE LETTERS MAY MAKE YOU VERY MAD...AS THEY SHOULD

First let's pause for a moment.  I've highlighted the FBI hates crimes division.  I don't necessarily doubt the poster's intentions, but he wasn't thinking clearly.  If 911 truth is about exposing a US government cover-up, isn't it a bit risky to contact the FBI?

We continue with the hate email in progress:

I joined the Jref forum to answer questions and told them, that once they acted more civil I will be willing to face them. I really want to open a dialogue and clear some of the misconceptions they may have. I found some real nice people there, but also many viscious one. Sadly I received this email of one of their forum members. A coward and an ignnorant. He is referring to the baby I just lost.
Read below and feel free to email him:
William Rodriguez

EMAIL 1
from Joey P hide details 5:03 am (4 hours ago)
to wtcbill@gmail.com
date Apr 25, 2007 5:03 AM
subject Glad your unborn child died
mailed-by yahoo.com
Now why don't you do the same motherf***er? I dare you to meet face to face with the JREF crew. You're gonna be in for a big surprise you f***ing wetback.

EMAIL 2
On 4/25/07, Joey P wrote:
Not only do I need advice on getting those hard to reach s**t stains off the toilet bowl, I sure could use your expert janitorial knowledge on cleaning any hard to reach areas in the bathroom.
Maybe a few radical Islam f***ers at GITMO could spend a few weeks at the Rodriguez trailer. That would be quite fitting for you America hating pieces of s**t. Uh-oh. The NWO's watching. I best scamper off now.

EMAIL 3 And this one directed to LUCUS:
Joey P to me
show details 11:56 am (1½ hours ago)
Tell that dipf**k Lucus I aint no fucking twoofer. Got that Pedro? For s**ts and giggles see what happens when you poor gasoline over your body and strike a match. Do it, Jose. I'm serious you sorry piece of motherf***ing s**t.
So did your ugly f****ing wife shit your little bastard down the toilet. Do the world a favor and dopn't have children a**hole.
I'm having trouble getting some s**t stains off my toilet. I hear you were a janitor. What do you recommend?

EMAIL 4
Joey P to me
show details 9:44 am (3½ hours ago)
Brought to you by the good folks at the JRef forums. It's a f****ing shame you didn't die on 9/11 you f***er. F**k you asswad. Here's hoping that ugly bitch wife of yours dies. F****ing ugly c**t. How can you even f**k that nasty s**t?

Charming fellow that Troy.  He also made a name attacking family members:

 http://911blogger.com/node/15768

 And generally being oboxious, as Jon Gold writes here:

http://911blogger.com/node/14474

Cheered on by the SLC blog, who also feel it's okay to exploit  a 9/11 family member's personal information (see comments about Andrew Bernstein) as long as it can be used as an excuse to have a go at lefty activists they hate.

Troy Sexton was also behind the Killtwoofers blog, a bit of information I literally stumbled across, after demanding ISP traffic information from a source who had records from that time.  It confirmed what I'd suspected for some time, that SLC knew who it was all along.  Trying to blame me for setting up that blog was a sick, twisted game at least one of the SLC blog owners wittingly engaged in with the help of "truther" conartists known to Casseia/Killtown's group.  Brainless writes:

"When I saw the Killtwoofers site I was disgusted: A Sad Cry for Help."

Yeah, he's a real prince.   That ISP by the way(scroll down to update)? 

 Update: an hour later:

After checking ISP traffic records, it does appear this "killtwoofers" is actually Troy from West Virginia.  Visited commentary about himself from a similar Suddenlink dynamic IP address(es) in September and October of 2009:

 Suddenlink Communications 173.80.157.40

The nature of dynamic IPs is an exact match is unlikely.  Unhappily for "Killtwoofers" the ISP can confirm records at the time.

Brainster knew it was Troy all along, and, sadly, I must accept that the more reasonable JamesB did too, if he was monitoring comments and webstats as he claims here:

 Of Course

Of course I condemn this behavior. I specifically posted two days ago that we would not tolerate threats against people. One of the reasons I decided to start monitoring comments was we had people pretending to be others. We would point out that Eric Williams was a Holocaust denier, and magically just minutes later a brand new blogger profile would be created by an alleged "debunker" Holocaust denier, and Jenny would get all "outraged". People can play these silly and offensive games if they want, they will just have to keep them of our site. That doesn't mean I am going to drop everything I am doing and get outraged everytime they do though.
When we point out cases of truther misbehavior, we point to actual real people, with real faces and names like Eric Williams, Kevin Barrett, and Jim Fetzer. We don't just go out and create a blogger profile so we can denounce him 5 minutes later.

JamesB on Sat, 04/21/2007 - 11:54am.

Turns out, actually they do. 

Which regrettably means JamesB will not be able to put this behind him without a formal apology.  Trolling with snarky comments is in no way equivalent to framing and gaslighting the target (Jenny)of a hate blog while protecting the individual (Troy Sexton) who actually made it.

And they there's Troy's arrest for child abuse.  What a guy.

But we don't hear about Troy any more.  Partly its because there are few people involved in the Truth scam who don't know they are pushing a scam.  But it's also because Troy's been tied up....in the legal system.

‘Obsessed’ Dodgers fan arrested in Cincinnati for violating lifetime ban 
‘He’s outta here!’ Troy Sexton, aka ‘Troy from West Virginia’ was arrested at Great American Ball Park during a game between the Reds and Dodgers. The rabid Dodgers follower was barred from downtown Cincinnati stadium after a 2008 melee that delayed the start of the baseball game.

BY Deborah Hastings

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Thursday, June 12, 2014, 8:22 PM

Steee-rike! He's out.
A man with a history of abusive behavior was arrested in Cincinnati Tuesday night for violating a lifetime ban and showing up at Great American Ball Park, where the Reds faced the Los Angeles Dodgers.
Troy Sexton, who's come to be known to Dodger followers as "Troy from West Virginia," was charged with criminal trespass and obstructing official business. He also faces a felony burglary count, though it was not clear what prompted that charge.
He is being held in the Hamilton County Jail on a $40,000 bond, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported.
Sexton, 40, of Hurricane, W. Va., was banned from the stadium on the Ohio River in 2008, after his participation in a brawl raised such a ruckus the game was delayed.
He pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct in that incident. A charge of resisting arrest was dropped.
According to court documents, Sexton came to Tuesday night's game to "shatter lives (in) the next couple days," the Enquirer reported.

In 2009, Sexton had a series of run-ins with authorities in Putnam County, W. Va., after he was arrested for directing a racial slur at the local police chief and for holding one of his sons upside down and pushing another son to the ground at an elementary school football game.

He was sentenced to probation after his wife told the court her husband had a history of mental health issues and hadn't been taking his medication.
He's also under investigation for sending tapes to authorities alleging they contained the sounds of him beating his children.

It was always clear Troy was unwell, to say the least.  Or at least clear to anyone who wasn't cynically supporting Troy's "debunker" efforts that backhandedly gave undue credence to the Truther con.

Troy's "debunker" friends were just as gullible as they thought "truthers" were.  Whodda thought.

Let's Air The Laundry

I haven't covered as much as I planned this year, but you know, real life.
 happens.    Let's take some time out for some random observations and corrections to our collective perceptions.

1.Self proclaimed "debunker" falls for Gamergate con

First up, I'll indulge a spot of pointing and laughing at one of the owners of Screw Loose Change who was spreading gamergate propaganda at JREF.  Either he's a gullible tool, or he's a secret supporter.  For those lucky few who don't know the clusterfuck that is gamergate, here's a relatively short summary.  Basically gamergate is another fringe political front.  But Brainster is very interested in the debunked sex for review angle:

As for the death threats, this post claims that it is most likely that Anita faked them. Ten tweets in 3 minutes, the last of which Anita screen captured 12 seconds after it was posted.

BTW, I find the story about Zoe Quinn sleeping around to get positive reviews for her games more interesting.

 Uh huh.  About that story:

 ...there is no evidence she "slept around for positive reviews." And to be honest I couldn't find anything more boring than someone else's sex life. Why are you interested in who someone else sleeps with?

 But the reply to the "Anita faked it" angle Brainster is pushing is the best:

Twitter does this thing where if somebody puts your Twitter name in their post, you get notified about it immediately. It doesn't strike me as unusual at all that that any Twitter user would be disturbed by the nature of the first few initial tweets and click the name to see the rest, and quickly screenshot such material before it can be erased. If the person who started the account began tweeting while Sarkeesian was logged into Twitter, she would've seen the tweets immediately. No skullduggery or Truthy conspiracism necessary.

 That must have hurt, the owner of a blog mocking the "truth" movement being told by a fellow skeptic to stop being a Gamergate "truther".  Priceless.

2. Next up in the How Far We Have Fallen category is Michael Shermer.

Shermer is best known in "truther" circles as  a debunker celebrity often lauded at the SLC blog:

Screw Loose Change: Michael Shermer on the Truthers

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2008/.../michael-shermer-on-truthers.ht...

Jan 24, 2008 - Uber-skeptic Michael Shermer discusses the troothers stalking his book tour in his latest podcast, and gets a couple of good shots in. The video ...

Screw Loose Change: The Troofer Michael Shermer ...

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/.../troofer-michael-shermer-harassment....

Jan 30, 2008 - Michael Shermer posts the series of videos from his recent troofer harassment, including the one I made at Powell's. Even more interesting ...

Screw Loose Change: Glenn Beck on the Bill Maher Hecklers

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/.../glenn-beck-on-bill-maher-hecklers.ht...

Oct 23, 2007 - Hint, he doesn't like them very much. He has on as guests uber-skeptic Dr. Michael Shermer and James Meigs from Popular Mechanics.

Screw Loose Change: When Troofers Annoy

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2008/01/when-troofers-annoy.html

Jan 21, 2008 - I went and saw Dr. Michael Shermer at a booksigning tonight, for his new work on biology and economics, The Mind of the Markets. The speech ...

Screw Loose Change: Shermer Versus Ryan Debate About ...

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/.../shermer-versus-ryan-debate-about-to....

Nov 8, 2007 - Shermer Versus Ryan Debate About to Start. Click here and choose ... Labels: Kevin Ryan, Michael Shermer, Thom Hartmann. posted by Pat ...

Screw Loose Change: Shermer Versus Ryan Debate Wrapup

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Nov 8, 2007 - Kudos to Michael Shermer for doing a very, very good job. There were only a couple of missteps. Always consider your audience and tailor ...

Screw Loose Change: Troofers Take on New World Order

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Jan 17, 2008 - Incidently, Shermer is on a book tour, so if I can work it into my schedule I will try and go see him next week. ... Labels: Michael Shermer.

Screw Loose Change: Book Review: The Believing Brain

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Nov 5, 2011 - The rest are interesting, even though I consider Shermer to be somewhat .... What does that have to do with a book by Michael Shermer?

Screw Loose Change: Bits and Pieces

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Apr 16, 2011 - Nothing much new to report from the Troofer front. Jesse Ventura was on a radio program the other day with Michael Shermer from Skeptic ...

Screw Loose Change: Truthers on NPR Connecticut

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Apr 19, 2011 - Here are some more crazy people, talking to Michael Shermer in a bar. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlnXDU4AiUQ&feature=

Shermer has also been outed in the Skeptic community as a sexual predator and rapist, operating for possibly years with the protection of high ranking members of the community.  A bit like the Catholic Church. The following timeline is from 2008 to 2013:

Timeline of harassment and sexual assault allegations against Michael Shermer

Events during Shermer's debunking Truther phase: 

June 19, 2008 Alison Smith
At The Amazing Meeting, Alison Smith, then-JREF employee through August 2010, and founder of the now defunct Skeptical Analysis of the Paranormal Society (down) (cached copy), alleges that Michael Shermer plied her with alcohol to the point of losing time and memory, then brought her to his hotel room and had non-consensual sex with her. (This is known, in legal circles and to us Social Justice Warriors and feminazis, as rape.)

September, 2008 Pamela Gay
Gay has recounted in several places, without naming names, a story that while being introduced to Michael Shermer at Dragon*Con in 2008, he made a drunken lunge at her breasts instead of shaking her hand. DJ Grothe has related this story a number of times to a number of people, indicating that he had intervened to stop the public groping from happening.

May 2010 Ashley Miller
At a dinner event she attended featuring PZ Myers, Ashley encounters Michael Shermer, who allegedly spoke with her for several minutes while massaging his genitals through his jeans. She describes the incident here.

May 23rd, 2012 pseudonymous commenter Miriamne
A comment left at Friendly Atheist names Michael Shermer as allegedly having harassed her, and “trying to sleep with a new young woman every TAM”.

Disgusting doesn't begin to cover it.  While one is tempted to blame Randi and he is ultimately responsible for what happens in his organization, it speaks well of him or at least of his pragmatism, that he's fired  DJ Grothe formerly in charge of the JREF forums(and apparently an enabler of Shermer) and retaken the helm personally.  

Nonetheless, it's a bit of a mystery why it too so long.  I suspect Randi is very conservative, and while intelligent, it makes him susceptible to a certain type of charmer.   While leftists can be duped by charm and out right lies, people heavily investing in the authoritarian right are the experts at living in DeNile, especially when that person appears to be a vocal fan and supporter.

As if that wasn't bad enough, Shermer has a questionable history with David Cole.

Mr. Cole-stien , adept conartist and Nazi apologist that he is, claims to have known Shermer since 1993 and has a photo to prove it:

 Cole-stien goes on to rant:

I’ve known little Mikey Shermer since 1993. I tell many interesting stories about this “skeptic” fraud in my book, Republican Party Animal (available from Amazon, Walmart, and Barnes & Noble in the US, Waterstones and Foyles in the UK, Indigo/Chapters in Canada…but enough self-promotion).
Shermy got wind of the fact that I include quite a few pages of conversations that I recorded with him in 1994 – conversations in which he admits to defaming me and lying about my work regarding Holocaust revisionism. So, what did “Mr. Freethinker” do? How did “America’s leading skeptic and defender of free inquiry” respond?
He got his lawyers to serve my publisher with a demand to “refrain from publishing or distributing” my book! This is a man who slams religious institutions for stifling free inquiry and suppressing facts. And he wants to ban a book.
That’s some great skepticizin’ there, Mikey.

 Given Holocaust Deniers don't actually have facts, it's unlikely Shermer was trying to suppress anything that supports the fraud of Holocaust denial.  Much more likely Shermer, already under fire from rape allegations, was in damage control mode, trying to hide the rest of the skeletons in his closet.  At the very least, showing Shermer presented himself to the public in a false light.  For instance, no where in this Donahue show dated 1994 [Disclaimer:video uploader interjects commentary showing they have sympathy with Holocaust "revisionism".  Am seeking a better copy of this show] does Shermer admits he knows Cole previously, apart from a couple of phone calls.  Watching the clip, Donahue wonder's why Shermer is going in where other Jewish groups prefer not to tread.  But if one looks at Shermer/Cole banter and Shermer's pugging his Skeptic magazine, a reason presents itself:  this was great publicity for Shermer's magazine and gave him instant credibility among readers.  Remember this was before the Internet.

 In light of  Cole's exposure as a conartist, and Shermer's association with Cole, one has to wonder exactly how much of the truther/debunker/holocaust denial/forum trolling was a deliberate confidence game using JREF forums as a platform as an outpost of the cultural wars.  Remember, in the beginning the 911 truth con was pitched to the Left and the loudest debunkers come from the Right.

Last Notes on Shermer's friend Cole:
- Earlier clip from show, Cole reiterates, in spite of his Jewish background, that he's an Atheist. [Disclaimer:video uploader interjects commentary showing they have sympathy with Holocaust "revisionism".  Am seeking a better copy of this show]

 - The entire claim pushed by Nazi apologists that Cole was driven into hiding by Jews is skewed:  it wasn't Jews or "Zionists", but a man called Irv Rubin who represented a fringe rightwing extremist group.  A brief reading of Wikipedia will show Rubin in no way represents the actions of mainstream Jews or persons who object to anti-Semitism.

A note about fellow Donahue TV participant Bradley Smith from the ADL:

 Though he often tries to present himself as a free speech activist, Bradley Smith has functioned as a propagandist for the Holocaust denial movement since 1983. He has achieved his greatest notoriety as the director of the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust, whose mission is to disseminate Holocaust denial to students on college campuses. In more recent lectures promoting his book, Break His Bones, Smith has sought to refocus his message on the free speech issue and to “decriminalize Holocaust history.” Privately, he admits that his aim continues to be promoting “revisionism” and anti-Israel propaganda.

3. Last in the Laundry airing is Mia Dolan.


The "Mia Dolan" I know was responsible for exposing "gretavo" as Gustavo Espada, a member of Fetzer's Scholars group(a fact Espada has never admitted) in comments at the Daily Kos, where 911blogger users like "Cassiea" and "Vesa" were claiming to spread the truth.  This was in 2006, but I never knew about it until years later, unfortunately.  It would have been much easier to see it was all a scam by early 2007 if I had.

Sadly, Mia Dolan, however useful they've been confirming the Scholars/911blogger/Wtvdemolition scam, has chosen the screen name of a woman who claims to be a psychic:

Mia Dolan is an Isle of Sheppey-born best-selling author^{[citation needed]} and self-proclaimed psychic based in the United Kingdom. She writes and teaches at her own psychic school.^[1]

 While I personally know people who are "psychic readers"- basically talented empathic cold readers who attribute their skills to intuition and/or spirit  guides, the money they "make" is a negligible gratuity and no different from visiting a therapist or priest.
 
When people are making thousands of dollars off so called psychic powers, that's a game changer.  Dolan has been mentioned on James Randi's forum.

The "Mia" at Dailykos appears to be in Minnesotta, at least according to their blog, Minnesota DFL Caucus Reminder (with Poll).

Nonetheless, their choice of screen name should make one cautious about where exactly they're coming.  


That's all for now.  Given the convoluted nature of the "truther" fraud, this is unlikely to be the last of the laundry aired....

Orangutan of 9/11 Blogger caught fibbing about Christopher Bollyn

It was bound to happen sometime.  When a group of dishonest people set out to to sell their conspiracy snake oil as "anti war" activism, eventually inconsistencies would leak out. 

But many of the architects of the truth movement fraud have avoided out-right lies and misrepresentations, the better to ape deniability. And they're usually smart enough to avoid "fishing" under false pretences.  Usually, but not always.

Orangutan, the co-owner of 911blogger was fishing in early 2007 about Christopher Bollyn:

Paula Zahn CNN

We need to get the video of this Paula Zahn crap up!! And what is with that Christopher Bollyn dude. Is he legit?

Orangutan. on Tue, 01/30/2007 - 8:22pm.

 No

Bollyn is a racist. As I said in Real Truther's post earlier this week, nothing good was going to come from that Bollyn interview.

simuvac on Tue, 01/30/2007 - 8:25pm.

Anyone reading "What is it with this Christopher Bollyn dude. Is he legit?" is meant to assume:

a.  Orangutan doesn't know who Bollyn is
b.  Orangutan isn't familiar  with Bollyn's material or ideology
c.  Is soliciting advice from the community based on his presumed ignorance.

Christopher Bollyn is currently enjoying a renaissance in the 911 Truth Fraud community.  Recently returning to the states, he's been wined and dined by many "truth" groups, presumably because they no longer have to pretend they're not in bed with Holocaust deniers.  It can also be the last ditch effort to cleanse themselves of any anti racist participants remaining so they can carry on blaming the Jews in peace. 

And good on them.   As long as they're honest about  their sleazy pseudo Nazi goals and aren’t pretending to be liberals or leftists, the rest of us will know who to avoid.

Several groups have hosted Bollyn in the past several weeks:

-Oct 1st Talk in Jasper, Alberta, CA, organized by Monica and Andy of 911Jasper

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ELuOtKRmcw

http://www.facebook.com/bollynbooks911/posts/371615846330976
- Sept 27  Talk in Seattle arranged by Jerry, Matt and Ben, presumably by the Seattle Truth group:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw4UDcmOqp4
http://www.bollyn.com/bollyn-in-seattle-sept-27/

- Sept 24  interview with NonAlligned Media

http://nonalignedmedia.com/2014/09/nam-podcast-episode-3/

From this image appears to have an event with the 911truthla group recently:

Also paused for a photo op with antisemite apologist Gilad Atzmon:

And had a speaking event with Craig Lazo's Portland group:

http://www.bollyn.com/solving-9-11-event-in-portland-september-24/

-Sept 17 speaking event in Davis Ca:
http://www.bollyn.com/bollyn-to-speak-at-davis-for-9-11-truth/

-Sept 14 Hosted by San Diegans for 911 truth:
http://www.bollyn.com/photos-of-solving-9-11-event-in-san-diego/

-Sept 13 Bollyn was speaking in Dimas.
http://www.bollyn.com/9-11-truth-events-with-bollyn-in-california/

-Sept 11 Bollyn had a table at the 9-11 Truth Film Festival at the Grand Lake Theater in Oakland

-Sept 10 Interviewed on fringe radio Guns and Butter:
http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/106722

Quite a busy little bee Bollyn has been.

Bollyn has returned to the US after supposedly fleeing vague Zionist forces who were out to get him.  The truth will probably be less dramic and more banal, like he was about to be caught in a scheme and laid low until the statute of limitations ran out.  Or maybe Bollyn saw what happened to David Cole-stien when Cole tried to get clever and decided to play it straight, knowing he'd be welcome back into the arms of his fans, which includes Orangutan, the co owner of 911blogger.

Why, yes , Orangutan did pretend he'd never heard of Christopher Bollyn.  What he was doing was fishing in the audience.  Taking the temperature.  See how much people know about or abject to a raging Holocaust Denier being involved with the truth movement. Because, not only did Orangutan know about Bollyn a year earlier, he promoted Bollyn's so called research on his local Wisconsin Democrat yahoo group list:

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/DemocracyforWisconsin/conversations/messages/7729

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Ted Tilton Jr.

Dec 24, 2006

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Israel's awareness of the events has been a hot button from the very beginning. The focus centers on the dancing Israeli film crew who was set up across the river to film the whole event as it unfolded that morning in September of 2001.

 

Think you will find this article of interest. It is the harshest commentary on Israeli involvement I've seen thus far, but it is the first time I've read about those five people who were arrested and then released in New York being on a talk show.

 

 

 

The Likud Criminal Gang

Behind 911 &

The 'War On Terror' 

By Christopher Bollyn

12-23-6

 And the punch line is, he was called out then, and told the same thing by a fellow list member:

CYNTHIA LAITMAN

Dec 25, 2006

Dear Ted Tilton,

While I, as a Jew, am deeply upset by Israel's recent aggressions against innocent Palestinians, the article you have forwarded to our listserve, by Christopher Bollyn, is downright alarming. Finding fault with Israel's policies is one thing -- and is fair game. However, damning the Zionist movement and insinuating that it is some worldwide evil cabal, as Bollyn has done in this and other articles he's written, is right out of the playbook of the the most virulent and hate-mongering anti-Semites of our age, including the authors of the infamous "Protocols of Zion".

There are many legitimate voices rightfully criticizing Israel's current leadership. Bollyn's is not one of them.

Wishing everyone happy holidays,
Cynthia

 

Thirty Seven (37) days after being told by Cynthia that Bollyn is an anti semite goon, Orangutan is pretending at 911Blogger he doesn't know who Bollyn is?

Orangutan is just another manipulative Patriot/Tea Bagger liar pushing the 911 Truth scam.

It won't end well.

Justice for Killtown

It's that time of year!  The conspiracy Christmas where all the little scamming goblins come out to play!

"Justice for Killtown" was a parody I totally missed back in 2006.  It was probably set up  by "Gravy" or other friends at JREF and viciously mocked Craig Lazo's insensitive exploitation of Susan Jovin's murder(something else I totally missed at the time).   Why Mr. Lazo hasn't gotten around to blaming "Sparks" for this Myspace account, I don't know.  Guess we just need to give him time to invent a story.

The account can still be seen at this URL:   http://www.myspace.com/killtown911

Interests

General

.. 1. Cyber-stalking 2a. Exploiting tragic murders to prop up my other hobby:..
2b. Pissing on the graves of the innocent victims of 9-11

But the blog is no longer visible except in wayback.

Justice for Killtown's Blog

Axed AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Current mood:crappy

Just when I was about to release my new video, which is the final nail in the coffin for the 9/11 perps, the ultimate smoking gun, the irrefutable scientific proof of the 9/11 hoax, CIA-run JewTube CENSORED me and DELETED my account, merely because of my "rampant copyright violations".

I'm calling on all true patriots: BOYCOTT YOUTUBE!!!!

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2007/03/boycott-youtube.html

12:49 PM

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• Cara My YouTube account was deleted aswell and no proof of copyright infringement was produced. YouTube is for hacks.
  
  I liked your exposure of the Val photo though and can see from your google earth photo that the smoke plume is about a third of a mile in diameter if it were a genuine plane crash. This leaves us with differing eywitness accounts and a single questionable photo as proof of what happened. You got them big time.
  
  Suspicious.

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  t roach hey i was browsing through blogs on the internet built into the Prada phone i got for FREE from this site I agree with what u say in your blog and hey this free prada phone site is still giving out prada phones!

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  My new friend, Mark Roberts: GAY Spy *giggle*

  Current mood:giggly

  One of my friends made a brand new page making fun of my GAY arch-nemesis:
  http://www.myspace.com/markrobertsgayspy
  
  Tee hee hee! It's so brilliant how it pretends he's GAY! Mark must be sooooo embarassed that there's a website making him look GAY! I know I would if someone called me GAY! All the GAY references are really well thought out and clever. It's almost like he really is GAY! Sometimes I almost believe he really is GAY, it's so clever with the GAY stuff!!! Check it out!!!!! ROFLMAO!!!
  
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My Suzanne Jovin Myspace axed !!!

Current mood:angry

The memorial site I had set up in memory of Suzanne Jovin to help bring back awareness to her unsolved brutal murder just got axed by MySpace.
The JFUCKs had gone ballistic when they heard I had site up a memorial/investigation site at MySpace to bring back awareness for this poor girl who was brutally stabbed 17 times in which her killer was never found. They wanted so desperately for MySpace to take it down so Suzanne's unsolved murder would go back in the memory hole and they finally got there wish today. So now they can all sleep well knowing that the only memorial/investigation site on the internet to help bring awareness to her unsolved brutal murder got axed. I'm sure her killer is very happy about this too.
Read more on my blog.
But don't despair, dear friends of Killtown, I will find other victims to take advantage of to further my 9/11-notoriety research.

1:35 PM

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 Feb 13, 2007

My shocking new video!!!

Current mood:artistic

I've been trying to understand why I've been losing respect and relevance among my fellow Truthers, and I finally figured it out...I don't have anything on YouTube! Duh! The Pilots for Truth did it, and look at them! Lyte Trip and Merc are coming out with one, and according to them it's going to make them famous! So I'm embarking on my new career as an artist. This is just a preview. Don't worry, I'll continue my research and harassment, I just need to take a moment to present my argument in a scientific format: video. I'm feeling very inspired, and I'm already considering some follow-ups to this one. What title do you like better: "Val McClatchey: Plume with a View" or "The Lying Bitch of Shanksville"???
In the meantime, enjoy this preview of..."Hoodwinked in Shanksville":

 From a later feed there seems to be one more entry dated in Jan 2010, the same month Nico Haupt outed Mr. Lazo, but the actual blog was lost to the memory hole:

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• Mar 2, 2007 6:33 PM My new friend, Mark Roberts: GAY Spy *giggle*
• Feb 23, 2007 1:35 PM My Suzanne Jovin Myspace axed !!!
• Feb 13, 2007 3:13 PM My shocking new video!!!

 Ah well.  There's enough laughs to go around.    Imagine if Mr. Lazo had stopped while he was ahead ....in Feb of 2007.  

On a more serious note, Craig Lazo's exploitation of Jovin murder isn't just insensitive, it's misguided:  Jovin was killed on December 4, 1998,   THREE YEARS BEFORE THE 911 ATTACKS.

In "Killtown"s own words:

The Real Motive?

So with no student/teacher love affair gone array, no real evidence this was some kind of senseless random act of violence, and no other real motives raised by police or the press, there seems to be only one motive left that has been greatly overlooked, the subject of Suzanne's senior thesis and one of Van de Velde's area of expertise: 

Osama Bin Laden

 So, according to KT, a college student is murdered over a thesis on Bin Laden because somehow Velde knows Osama is going to attack the US three years later, and Velde is part of the conspiracy to let it happen so Bush, who isn't even reelected yet, can go to war. 

BOLLOX.

Also Kt Lazo is contradicting himself, since he's part of a group that doesn't even believe Osama was involved in the 911 attacks at all. 

I would say the Susan Jovin episode was the thing that sunk Lazo's credibility.  But then there's Satan's face/numbers in the smoke.  Really:
 http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=105517

 2:04:
KT points out the demon faces, but it is really a stretch to see them, and they were recorded by other shots.

 This is from a video that has since been made private:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHTlJee-xRY,   but JREF users seem confident it was made by Craig Lazo.  It's very likely seeing his 911review page refers to the same face:

In a trading-card game called "Illuminati: New World Order" (INWO), a number of the playing cards predict some of the exact same events of 9/11, such as the explosions at the Pentagon and WTC and smoke rising from the Twin Towers with a demon face.

Even numbers aren't safe, as Lazo insists they're in the smoke too:

Image can still be seen here:  
 http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p78/altf4_photo/wtcsmoke911pu6.jpg

This along with his "Frozen Fireball" has long convinced me Craig Lazo, like most of the 911 conspiracy veterans, is a con artist who knows he's just making rubbish up.  Neither he, nor his fan club/supporters believe this garbage.

And by the same token, they knew all the speculation around Jovin's death was a pack of self serving exploitative lies.

It won't end well.