Rediscover911.com, Rediscover911.org, Rediscover911 FRAUD

The website Rediscover911.com appeared in 2010,  a new platform to rally the Jew blaming crowd. 

 WHO are the 9/11 conspirators? Israel/Mossad/CIA/Neocons/Big Oil/ Banks/MSM

Follow this link and one can see most of the original  developers :

Development Group

Dr. Ed Kendrick
Zan Overall
Dr. Tom Tvedten
Wendy Campbell
Judy Kemecsei
Jerry Mazza
Stephen Lendman
Adrian Salbuchi
T. Mark Hightower
Tim Titrud

They're quite frank about blaming the Jews for 9/11.  There's their tagline:

Israel Did 911 | We must confront and expose pure evil

 and more milquetoast equivicating:

 http://web.archive.org/web/20100804045124/http://rediscover911.com/who-did-911/

 There are plenty of websites, documentaries, and articles that go on and on about “Bush & Cheney, U.S. Gov’t, etc, etc” but nobody seems to want to acknowledge the rock solid evidence proving 9/11 was most likely done by the Israeli Mossad in conjunction with the plethora of Zionist American “Jews” whose duplicitous role in the attacks has been thoroughly documented.

 In case you're not sure who are "zionist Jews", photographs are helpfully labeled with a Star of David, like Mr. Frum:

even if the subject hasn't been confirmed by reliable sources to be actually Jewish:

I'm curious as to what his personal religious views are. Has he ever made his views known to the public? (Havermayer (talk) 19:50, 31 December 2008 (UTC))

Well he's Jewish... I've never heard anyone say if he's practicing or not. TastyCakes (talk) 02:26, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I've removed reference to being Jewish as a matter of religion - being a member of Jewish organizations does not necessarily imply that one is a practicing Jew or a believer. Also, I'm not sure we would call being Jewish or Caucasian an ethnicity, or that we even want to categorize people by ethnicity unless it's relevant to their notability... but even if it is we need a direct citation for that. - Wikidemon (talk) 13:39, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

And of course, the Holocaust never happened:

 Holohoax–A 15-year-old’s school report exposes holocaust lies

 http://rediscover911.com/holohoax-a-15-year-olds-school-report-exposes-holocaust-lies/

 Pretty disgusting a 15 year old is being used to push this garbage, but it's par for the course with these people.  I know at least four "truther" parents who, knowing they are pushing a fraud, continue to brainwash their children into believing it.

Anyway, when Rediscover 911 was set up, there was some nod to shoring up a pretense of credibility, complete with links to 911truth.org:

 http://web.archive.org/web/20100114050804/http://www.rediscover911.com/rediscover911.com/Welcome.html

Give up the belief that “our” government is our government.

“The constant barrage of messages we receive that peace is to be found in war, that freedom is to found in slavery, that wealth is to be found in indebtedness, and that truth is to be found in lies, is pulling humanity away from our fragile inheritance of reason, rationality, and enlightened discourse on the real menaces we face.” http://911truth.org/article.php?story=20091204151919219

The mostly complete original text can be read here:
http://jennyquarx.blogspot.com/2014/08/rediscover-911-jew-hating-website.html

 Though, thanks to the help of another fraud, the design of the original page can in part be seen at a "parody" website, Rediscover911.org:

 The person who set this website up did so claiming to expose "disinformation", which was apparently easier for him to see online, than the Larouche clowns he was surrounded by constantly on the streets of New York during his "truthing".  For years. 

Anyway, the warning is supposed to reassure readers the website is satire and "9/11 Truth is Not about Hate".

Well, it's certainly true people from the left duped into pushing "truth" are meant to believe the movement is not about hate.  And technically it isn't per se, so much and recruiting a political base for fringe right politicians like Ron Paul, and maybe to make some $$$$ selling DVDs.  But to recruit that base it is essential that all the sheeple are tolerant or the Nazis/Racists/ and other hate mongers.  And it's essential to speak directly to the white power base and not alienate them.  Because, between the two, left progressives and the white power Nazis, the Nazis were always more valued members of the "truther" community.  So no, it wasn';t about Hate, it was just about pandering to any warm body, including racists.

The webmaster wrote more here:

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-10-27/rediscover911com-vs-rediscover911org-update

"I don't enjoy this part of my participation in the 9/11 truth movement, but countering mis/disinformation is truly essential to our continued progress."

What a sleazy little liar.  The website actually was  a kind of honey pot for hard core anti racists who had been duped by "da truth".  The webmaster himself has lied so many times about his intentions and activities, I've lost count.   Not including the fake temper tantrums he's thrown, hoping people will include him in their confidence to mollify him.  Truly pathetic.  But it's instructive to examine the original by way of examining the satire.

The second editorial edit reads:

"This is crap!
 While it can't be disputed there are wackos and bigots who participate in the 9/11 Truth Movement, the same could certainly be said about any large social group."

Actually, no.  There are loads of large social groups who have no significant population of racists or Nazis.  Last count, round about MOST of them.   The fact 911 "truth" has so many was a clue it was a racist front from the start.  He goes on:

"The number of people promoting 9/11 truth who believe Israel was responsible is very small."

 At the time he wrote this, in terms of sheer numbers, he was probably right. Much effort has gone into obfuscating the racist fringe politics that founded 911 "truth".  It doesn't change the fact is was founded by racists and all the major leaders are tolerant of persons blaming the Jews.

 "Tens of millions of people around the world support greater transparency on this issue"

 I assume he means "truth", not blaming the Jews.  I have no idea where these figures came from, but the are complete garbage.  Amnesty International, a real activist group, can claim 3 million members globally.

www.amnesty.org/en/who-we-are

 But 911 "truth" has never been in Amnesty International's league.  The closet the "movement" can claim would be something like the Ron Paul/Patriot movement.   Looking at thhe voting numbers would be a better way to gauge actual interest. Popular vote totals for the Repulican Primary in 2012 give Ron Paul over 2 million: 2,095,762.

9/11 Truth and Ron Paul aren't a perfect overlap.  But the political base is the same as what the leaders expect.  One might extrapolote from these figures an interest in 9/11 Truth  globally of a couple of million, but not "Tens of Millions."

"...yet the Mainstream media are quick to dismiss concerns..."

And good on them.  My only criticism is the MSM not doing decisive research to put to rest the idea there are "legions" of truthers "out there".  

The next screen continues with the editorials:

"I would hope the reader would at least entertain the notion that this could be intentional disinformation. Yes, people are this stupid.  But disinformation is also very real...." 

Yes.... and no.  While it is true government and intelligence agencies engaged in less than honorable activities have spread about disinformation, I am 100% certain this is NOT the case in the 911 "truth" movement.   The evidence (and it is voluminous) points to the archetects of so called "disinformation" in 911 "truth"...as the very leaders of the movement themselves.  Including the idot who set up this satire website.

Why would they do this?  Several reasons:  branding, creating their own competition, reinforcing the conspiracy world view that "they" are out to get people, and handily throwing their racist base bones to boot.  The thing Fetzer, Gage, Jones and all the rest fear the most is being investigated for fraud by real authorities.  The second thing they fear is the idea they've deliberately made this conspiracy scam getting any traction among the more intelligent and clearer thinking sheeple, seeing as it will inevitably lead to being investigated, etc.   But send out a constant message of paranoia about disinformation, cointelpro, agents, shills, etc., and, even when a sheeple uncovers a fraud, they will assume a vast spooky network is behind it and fail to go something effective and sensible, like going to the FTC or the FBI.  

Disinformation does exist, but not in 911 "truth", because 911 "truth" was fringe rightwing disinformation from the start.

The next editorial objects:

"There are links to 911truth.org all over.  That in no way represents a relationship between the two sites". 

And here we start to get to the point of the satire website: obfuscation.  Because there actually is a connection between Janice Matthews who ran 911truth.org and Ed Kendrick that goes back to 2006.  But that will be the subject of another blog. Note if the webmaster hadn't made his suspiciously specific denial, no one would have researched to find what connections might exist.

There's another screen with more commentary and archiving copious links to the Architects  group:

:

But it get more interesting when "Truthmove" outright lies on the Who Runs Rediscover911.com ? page:

Rediscover911.com Promotes Bigotry
According to the Medical Professional for 9/11 Truth website J. Edward Kendrick (Fellow in the American College of Dentists. Past President, Greater Kansas City Dental Society. Former Member, Missouri Department of Health advisory board.) is a "charter member." Aside from that credit there is little evidence that Ed has done anything constructive for the 9/11 truth movement or really participated in any significant way.

WRONG.

Kendrick's 9/11 "truth" activities were covered in this article in 2006:

"Steel buildings don't just fall down," shouts Ed Kendrick, a heavyset dentist with a practice on Independence Avenue. Kendrick believes that the buildings actually collapsed because of what he calls a "controlled demolition" from bombs already set inside the towers.

He also organized 9/11 events promoted at 911truth.org calender,  (oops, that must be embarrassing for someone...):

http://www.911truth.org/calendar_event.php?eid=808

Don Paul

Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:00 PM

Uptown Theater, Kansas City, Missouri 3700 Broadway Kansas City, MO

"9/11 and Change: Freeing Ourselves from the 21st Century's Downward Spiral / A Night of Songs, Poems, Analyses and Planning" The presentation will first review basic gains in knowledge about 9/11/01 over the past seven years. It will point to findings of the San Diego Citizens Grand Jury in April 2007 (for which Don Paul was Chief Prosecutor, Jim Hoffman was Chief Investigator, and Richard Gage and Kevin Ryan were Expert Witnesses ) to identify who and what must have been responsible for key parts of the day's crimes: the failure to intercept off-course airliners, the failure to defend the Pentagon, the demolition of the World Trade Center Twin Towers and Building 7, and the subsequent cover-up of evidence by mass-media and Government officials that has allowed the " 'War on Terror' " to invade Afghanistan and then Iraq. It will review repressive measures that have followed from 9/11/01 in the United States and elsewhere: 2001's PATRIOT Act, 2002's Homeland Security Bill, 2004's Intellgence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act, 2006's Public Law 109-364 and Military Commissions Act, 2007's several Presidential Directives and Executive Orders, 2008's National Identity Card procedures and Homeland Security Presidential Directive 59-- all of these measures building toward incarceration of anyone opposing the " 'War on Terror' " that may soon include invasion of Iran. It will make fun of the officials responsible for the above measures. It will review acts of false-flag terror that preceded and succeeded 9/11/01, from the sinking of the Lusitania to 7/7/07 in London, and show that the same interests and even families have benefited hugely from such acts over decades and even centuries. It will review warnings from Government officials (Dick Cheney, Michael Chertoff, Michael Cherkasky, Jerome Hauer) and leading financiers about the "next terrorist attack." It will trace the inflating and deflating of 'Bubbles' in the U. S. economy over the past dozen or so years and ask what and who have manipulated these Bubbles and what and who are now most liable to the ongoing 'Crash' of Western economies. Finally--and most importantly--it will engage in pointing out alternatives that are available to all of us for stepping out of a economy that's based not on credit and debt but on fair exchange of goods. It will engage in a practical discussion with the audience as to how we can make real change happen apart from the Democrat and Republican Parties. Event organizer: Ed Kendrick whole2th@gmail.com

His events are also promoted on the "good" Scholars website, apparently approved by Victoria Ashley:

Upcoming Events
...Thursday, September 11, 2008
7:00 PM Don Paul
9/11 and Change:
Freeing Ourselves from the 21st Century’s Downward Spiral
A Night of Songs, Poems, Analyses and Planning
Uptown Theater, Kansas City, Missouri
3700 Broadway
Kansas City, MO
Event organizer: Ed Kendrick whole2th@gmail.com

* * * * * *
Thank you,
The STJ911 Committee
Victoria Ashley, Frank Legge, Nicholas Newton, Chris Poate, Kevin Ryan, Carl Weis

In 2007 Eddie had a live broadcast adverted at 911blogger.com:

http://911blogger.com/news/2007-04-21/special-sunday-live-broadcast
Colonel Bob Bowman, PhD
Listen to the "Take Back America" Speech LIVE from Kansas City's Uptown Theatre
Sunday, April 21st, 2007
5:45pm EST
The Citizen's Advocate LIVE @
www.citizensadvocate.net
Listen LIVE as Colonel Bowman explains why we need and deserve a government that:
-Follows the Constitution
-Honors the Truth
-Serves the People
This special event is being broadcast live on the Revere Radio Network and will also feature Missouri Representative Jim Guest (R) who will update us on an initiative to exempt Missouri from the Federal Real ID Act.
This event, organized by Dr. Ed Kendrick of 911Truth Kansas City (www.911truthgroups.org/KC),
is cosponsored by Democracy for the Heart of America (http://dfha.org/), 911Truth.org (www.911truth.org),
We the People Congress (https://givemeliberty.org/user/congress/state.aspx?state=mo),
and the Kansas City Iraq Task Force (http://www.kciraqtaskforce.org/)

And sponsored by 911truth.org.  Hmm.

Eddie has been active for a while, since at least 2004, according to this comment:

But I was on a website for dentists, Dentaltown.com, and on it there was a political board. One guy, Ed Kendrick, continued to ward off the insults and humiliations and kept presenting evidence that 9/11 was an inside job. At first I thought, well, he is a curious character, but not, of course worthy of a lot of time. Little by little, though, I kept seeing his information, and this is early, like 2003. Well, by 2004 Ed had me just skeptical enough of the official story that I read Ruppert Murdoch's Crossing the Rubicon, and that was it.................and ever since. 

 pfgetty on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 7:46pm.

And Kendrick signed a petition in 2009, posted by Jon Gold:

http://911blogger.com/news/2009-06-20/911-truth-movement-rejects-propaganda-hypocrisy

Source: www.911truth.org
6/19/2009
We as members of the 9/11 Truth community deplore all forms of hatred and violence, including the unprovoked murderous attack by James von Brunn on June 10, 2009, in the Washington Holocaust museum. We also deplore peddlers of hatred who use such events for their own purposes, such as Glenn Beck, who recently said that von Brunn, because of his attack, was now "a hero in the 9/11Truther movement," which "would like to destroy the country" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQnfJeUzzKk).
There is no foundation whatsoever for these flagrant lies. Beck intentionally overlooks the fact that he shares Von Brunn's views on the Federal Reserve (stating "it's totally fine to speak out against the Fed"), views that von Brunn acted upon when he tried to arrest the Fed's Board with a bag of weapons in tow. Beck essentially overlooks the fact that von Brunn took action on his White Supremacist views, leading him to murder a Black guard in a Jewish museum. Yet Beck cautions viewers that 9/11 Truth advocates pose a graver threat, and are bent on working with al Qaeda to destroy the nation. ("... people like white supremacists or 9/11 truthers that would also like to destroy the country. They’ll work with anybody they can.")
Beck ostensibly encourages thinking for oneself, questioning authority and holding people to account when it comes to the Fed, yet when it comes to the crimes of 9/11, the mere act of questioning is treasonous, fraught with potential dangers on a scale that threatens the nation itself. Beck facilitates the unfounded, concerted effort to equate all 9/11 Truth advocates with anti-Semites, a propaganda tactic to minimize and demonize dissenting views. Like von Brunn, Beck advocates hatred for those who hold views counter to his own.
SIGNED:
Kent Harkrader
Thomas Carroll
Jeff Tanzer
E. Virgil Elvin
Matt Hartsook
Gabriel Day
Luis Vega
Susan Miller
David Douthat
Sue Whitney
Mitchell d adams
Peter Phillips
Barrie Zwicker
Rusty Chambers
Barbara Tomlinson
Cameron O'Connor
Faith -R-Michaels
Charles D. Whitney 6th
Dr. Gary Sevener
Tony j Ramsden
Alfred K. Rocci
Susan Gilgallon J. Edward Kendrick, DDS
George Chan
Robert Huggins
James Hufferd
Teddy Woodward
Gerald M. Erickson
Tyler Reitenbaugh
Pierre Adler
Paul Maroun
Erik Larson
Bryan Sacks
Michael Wolsey
Mickey Huff
Peter Dale Scott
Fred Burks
Jon Gold
Michael Berger
Janice Matthews
Dan M Nalven

Which is cause for amusement when the webmaster of teh satire webstite stops by for a laugh:

I just LOVE the fact that Ed

I just LOVE the fact that Ed Kendrick signed this. The guy who runs Rediscover911.com, an ultra juvenile Israel did 9/11 site.

Jules on Tue, 07/20/2010 - 9:18pm.

Is that the same Kendrick he claimed there was little evidence of Eddies activities in 9/11 "truth"?  Looks like the joke is on "Jules".

There is more evidence of Kendricks involvement in 911Truth, but that will do for now. The point is both these websites are pushing a fraud with disinformation.  The first by using propaganda to blame the Jews to rally racists, and the second uses propaganda to try to keep leftist truthers involved by claiming to confront "disinfo". 

Why was the webmaster unable to find Kendrick involvement in 9/11 truth, going back years?  The answer is two fold:  one, my guess is he knew about it just fine, but he had an agenda.  It is my informed speculation he wanted to get the confidence of anti racist "truthers".

Why?  Any number of reasons, but mostly to  gather information to manipulate them better.  Part of this dance was participating in a private group in a private forum at truthaction.  In this way he, and people like him, could ask loaded questions like: Does anybody know/know about X?

It is assumed people asking these questions are looking for information they don't have.  But in the case of the frauds, they're trying to find out what you know, so they can play dumb about what they know, and try to manipulate with flattery:  "Really?  Gosh your're so smart!"  Since Jules didn't get feedback people people like me knew much of the guy, he didn't see a reason to share Eddie's history which is not t difficult to find if you claim to know how to use the Internet. 

So why didn't the rest of us dig more?  It was "Jules" who brought Eddie up, so we expected "Jules" would volunteer what put Eddie on the radar.  The only information he shared was this website, leaving the impression Eddie was only a dabbler in "truth", when his history goes back to the mid 2000's like all the other big "truther" personalities.


There were many private forum questions about the Rediscover911 website and Ashley's involvement...which I don't recall ever including: "Oh yeah, I've approved his events at our Scholars blog."
(This is the same woman who claims to spot a hoax a mile away...unless it involves Earth Quake machines.) 

So yes, Rediscover911.com is disinformation, disinformation put out by the very same "Truth" movement to manipulate the sheeple they've conned into accepting a conspiracy world view, with the satire website the perfect foil:

If you think Jews did it, the satire is obviously disinfo.
If you think 911 truth is a real activist movement, the Jew hating sight is obviously disinfo.

The truth is, they're both run by conartists.

Viva la Madness!

Farewell Hero Cynthia McKinney...

Not that she's gone anywhere.  She's still with us.  She's just not a hero in my eyes anymore.

I wrote about McKinney a long time ago, back when I was under the spell of American Blackout, a documentary that made an apparently good case for African American voter disenfranchisement during the Bush elections.  

Reality is messier, and, with a stomach churning predictability, it appears the person doing the docu was conned, or at least presented with a very incomplete picture.  From comments in this review:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/22/movies/22blac.html

designed to generate hatred

I thought we saw the end of Cynthia McKinney and her Black Panther supporters when she lost her re election. Well it looks like shes back and this time brought some kid to back her up. Ian Inaba is a 28 year old Berkley Liberal whose claim to fame is creating Eminems Bush bashing video Mosh in 2004. Now McKinney stars in Inabas newest independent documentary focusing on alleged voter disenfranchisement. A second recount of Floridas votes by the Miami Herald and a consortium of major news organizations confirmed that George W. Bush won the 2000 election. Also, investigations by the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights and the U. S. Justice Departments Civil Rights Division found that no blacks were denied the right to vote in the 2000 election. During the 2004 election, Democratic Party operatives continued to perpetuate the myth that black voters were disenfranchised during the 2000 presidential election. If blacks had been denied the right to vote, then why did all of the Democratic Party senators, including John Kerry, John Edwards, Bob Graham and Bill Nelson refuse to support the filling of a voter fraud lawsuit by the Congressional Black Caucus? It is obvious that this poorly directed documentary is designed to generate hatred among black voters toward Republicans and should be avoided by all. Lets not even mention that this woman is also a racist. Check out youtube and find the video of her Black Panther supporters caught on tape spewing racist remarks.

– kams912,

I don't agree it was designed to generate "hatred", per se.  Bush junior was doing plenty to generate bad feeling all on his own.   But it does seem to have an agenda of radicalizing the left into believing things were worse than they were.  And I'm dubious about Democratic Operatives, though political operatives are certainly possible.

But it was the comment about the racist remarks that caught my attention.  Ever since conspiracy bilk master Richard Gage gave a speech in front of the notoriously anti Semite Nation of Islam, I've wondered about Ms. McKinney.  At the very least her failure to shut down the anti semite/Jew rhetoric of her ardent followers.  I'm more and more convinced McKinney is the Patriot/Militia/Tea Parties answer to an "alibi Jew" role to hide their deep hatred of black people. And it's known the far right makes strategic alliances with persons who share an extreme belief, in this case the mutual anti Semitism will make them over look that little African ancestry problem.

The racist remarks are true and can be heard here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S8rHANZtE4

The ADL was not impressed:

ADL Condemns Racist, Anti-Semitic Tirades At Rep. Cynthia Mckinney's Concession Speech

Atlanta, GA, August 9, 2006 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) expressed outrage over the incident last evening in which members of Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney's security entourage, including individuals associated with the New Black Panther Party, physically and verbally attacked members of the media, spewing racist and anti-Semitic epithets.

"It's astonishing that in a democratic election anti-Semitism still rears its ugly head. Once again some McKinney supporters have resorted to anti-Semitism and racist language and are blaming Jews for her loss to an African-American opponent," stated Shelley Rose, ADL's Southeast Region Associate Director. "The fact that she has frequently included The New Black Panther Party -- which is perhaps the largest organized anti-Semitic and racist Black hate group in America-- in her security entourage is extremely troubling." 

According to reports and video coverage, as McKinney arrived at her campaign headquarters late last night, Steve Muhammad, one of McKinney's security staff scuffled with the media and was accidentally struck by a news camera carried by a television photographer, receiving a cut on the right side of his head.  Muhammad then physically lashed out at the photographer. During the scuffle, another member of her entourage who wore a New Black Panther Party pin shouted expletives at the media, including calling them "crackers" --a derisive term for whites – and telling them, "You got what you damn wanted. You got your Uncle Tom, now go put your cameras on him," referring to Hank Johnson, the African American candidate who defeated Ms. McKinney. He continued to rant, "You ain't in Israel and this ain't no Lebanese people, so back up. Gonna get your Jewish [expletive]… (inaudible)…."

Following McKinney's concession speech, a reporter attempted to ask the Congresswoman why she thought she lost. The New Black Panther member interrupted, shouting, "Why do you think she lost? You wanna know what led to the loss? Israel. The Zionists. You. Put on your yarmulke and celebrate." 

"This incident is reminiscent of the 2002 campaign in which Rep. McKinney's father "blamed the J-E-W-S" for her defeat," said Ms. Rose. "Rep. McKinney did not distance herself from the anti-Semitic comments then, and her service in Congress has been clouded by a perception that she also harbors such feelings."

So, alas, I must put aside the good feelings I had about Ms. McKinney.  I must conclude her refusal to denounce these comments by her followers is a sign of her approval and/or indifference to anyone offended. 


This is unfortunate because her comments in the  wake of the 9/11 attacks were not unreasonable, especially to those of us wondering how quickly we were told Osama Bin Laden was behind the attacks, with no evidence this knowledge was being used to prevent the attacks.  In that information vacue McKinney's statments made more sense than, "Oops, we couldn't have predicted it":

September 11 attacks

McKinney gained national attention for remarks she made following the 2001 US attacks, charging that the United States had advance knowledge of the attacks and that US President George W. Bush may have been aware of the incipient attack and allowed them to happen,^[17] allegedly due to his father's business interests: "It is known that President Bush's father, through the Carlyle Group, had–at the time of the attacks–joint business interests with the bin Laden construction company and many defense industry holdings, the stocks of which have soared since September 11."[17

Now as true as these criticisms might be, one has to look at the body of McKinney's political career before and after the attacks, and conclude everything is not as it appears.

This also casts a different light on the Webster Tarpley/LaRouche/Fetzer/wq2rx//Kennebunkport Fiasco.   The short version is the people "attacked" were in on the con.   Indirect evidence of this surfaced early this year, one of the "victims" being interviewed by a man now confirmed to directly support racist politicians.

So, yeah, that was a thing.   Sad, disappointing, but life goes on.

Mia Dolan on Eric Hufschmid, 911truth, at Daily Kos

There was a time Eric Hufschmid had the distinction of publishing one of the few books with good clear photos of the WTC towers as they collapsed on 9/11.  Unfortunately, even back before I knew he was a Nazi lover, his ending screed was full of crazy talk.  I spoke of Hufschmid's book with an individual who would go on to be a Nazi apologist, and whom at the time also gave no indication they knew Eric was a Nazi lover.  This is interesting because this same person would go on a crusade in early 2007 to have Eric removed as an organizer in the Arizona conference due to his sudden new book about Auschwitz.  [Correction: It was Eric D. Williams who was involved with the Arizona conference, not Eric Hufschmid.  However the rest of the points and associations re: Holocaust denial still stand.]This gave them some brief anti fascist cred...until they became a moderator at a website pushing softcore Nazi apologism.


But here's the kicker:  the webmaster of that website was told Hufschmid was bad news all the way back in 2006, when they both were members of Holocaust denier Jim Fetzer's Scholars for 911 Truth group.

The person who brought this up was a Daily Kos user by the nick Mia Dolan.   Therefore any objections to Holocaust denial in 2007 by the same people pretending not to associate with them was a scam perpetrated on leftists, hoping they would never look up the scammers posts on DKos.  Which, if they thought about it for two seconds, was pretty dumb:  of course leftists are going to wonder what the hell these closet Nazi losers were publishing on a lefty website.  If nothing else, for laughs.

Ladies and Gentelmen, I give you the outstanding posts of Mia Dolan on the
"Truth" Movement.  I'm only sorry I didn't discover them much sooner.

On Eric Hufschmid: thread starts   http://www.dailykos.com/comments/196456/5352917#c132
  

Cross-examiners?
Jim Fetzer and the Scholars group are professional liars.  There is no testing against inconsistencies - no scientific of evidentiary analysis at all.   My conspiracy theory is that they are being paid by Republicans to undermine any real investigation into Bush's 9/11-related negligences.

by Mia Dolan on Thu Mar 23, 2006 at 08:30:32 PM PST

I'm a member of the group 
I'm not paid by republicans to defend my country from people who murder my fellow citizens and human beings and blame it on Muslims.  Who's paying you to shield these criminals Mia?  Do you really think that Americans are that stupid?  You're a character assassin, pure and simple.

by Gretavo on Fri Mar 24, 2006 at 04:25:55 PM PST

What group? 
The Scholars?  Do you deny that Eric Hufshcmid is a holocaust denier?  

by Mia Dolan on Sat Mar 25, 2006 at 01:29:28 PM PST

Please cite his holocaust denying work 
and i'll let you know.  i haven't come across anything of the kind, but would like to know why you think he denies the holocaust.

by Gretavo on Thu Mar 30, 2006 at 03:28:44 PM PST

Ok, you asked for it 
Here is the link  [http://www.erichufschmid.net/Conspiracies12.htm]
Here are my favorite parts:

This gas chamber was not disguised as a shower. In fact, I would expect the skull and crossbones to frighten people.  (photos available on original site)  This particular photo has been used as evidence that Nazis had gas chambers for killing people, but the Holocaust Truth Seekers complain that  those particular chambers were designed to kill lice in bedding and clothing.  Typhus and lice were serious problem in parts of Europe during World War II. The U.S. Army discovered that DDT will kill the lice. The Germans discovered that cyanide would kill them.
Most Americans have "common sense", and common sense tells us that those gas chambers were for mass executions of people, not mass executions of lice.
However, if the goal of the Nazis to kill the prisoners, common sense would tell us that there were thousands of much easier, much less expensive methods. For example, they could have put prisoners on the trains that have the windows sealed shut. As the trains are rolling down the track, the Nazis could release poison gas. The trains would dump the bodies for burial, and then go back to pick up another load of prisoners.  There was no sensible reason to transport prisoners to a camp where they would have to be fed, especially when you consider that food was in short supply during the final years of the war. Even in America there were shortages of food. Why would the Nazis waste their time, money, and resources keeping these prisoners alive if their goal was to kill them?
And why did the Nazis bother to protect the prisoners from typhus and lice? Why not put the prisoners in the camp, shut the gates, and let the lice and typhus kill them?  
We may never know the true details of what happened at the Nazi prison camps, but just looking at a few of the photos and just thinking about the issue for a few minutes should make you realize that something is seriously wrong with the official story.

Before you say anything about Nazis, look through the photos and do some research. Do you even know where the archives of photos are? How many American professors of history have looked at these archives?
How can anybody be given a degree in history and referred to as an expert in history if he has not even looked at the photos of the Nazi camps? How can Ameircan universities be considered "educational" institutions when students are graduating with almost no understanding of what happened just a few decades ago? The photos shows that some Nazi prisons were real prisons, and some were slave labor camps, but none of them were extermination centers. Germany was losing the war during the final years, and they were desperate for military supplies. The Nazis began rounding up the unwanted people for the labor camps.
The prisoners were given beds and food because they were making supplies for the German military. The Nazis wanted to keep the prisoners free of lice and typhus because sickly, miserable prisoners do not make good workers.

Have I misinterpreted this?  Am I just overstating some legitimate criticism of Israeli foreign policy?  You tell me.   By the way, according to Hufschmid the moon landings were also a hoax.

by Mia Dolan on Thu Mar 30, 2006 at 04:52:34 PM PST

where does he say it didn't happen?
I'm not saying I necessarily agree with his analysis but there is a huge difference between DENYING that the Nazis killed millions of Jews (or millions of Russians, Roma, gays, etc.) and questioning specific claims of wrongdoing.  Just because the Nazis were evil (and they were!) does not mean we can accuse them of anything we feel like.  Nothing you quote up there points to anything other than a desire to hold all history, even the history of Jewish suffering, to rigorous standards of truth.  The way you and others throw around terms like "holocaust denier" has nothing to do with truth and everything to do with slander and libel.  Thankfully, people are waking up by the millions to the fact that we cannot trust official accounts of anything.  9-11 is just the latest case of this and one that represents a gross miscalculation by the liars behind it.
Finally, on the moon landing issue, I have not yet taken the time to examine Eric's arguments.  My tendency has always been to dismiss that particular conspiracy theory but I probably will look at the case he makes soon and let you know what I think.  I would never dismiss the possibility that Hufschmid is a plant intending to discredit the truth movement, on the other hand.  His specific criticisms of the official history of Nazi concentration camps does not strike me as reflecting in any way sympathy with Nazis or their cause, which is something you seem very keen to establish on rather weak grounds.  You've shown in your own treatment of the case of 9-11 a remarkable willingness to believe impossible things in order to preserve your Osama did it comfort zone--that to me indicates that you may well harbor prejudices against Muslims, but I wouldn't go so far as to accuse you of denying the fact that the Israeli military has killed hundreds of innocent Palestinians, even if you argued that those murders were justified or the scale of them exaggerated.

by Gretavo on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 11:42:50 AM PDT

Holy crap
Huffschmid writes that the gas chambers were for de-lousing jews, not killing them.    If you really can't figure out what kind of person he is, then you are an idiot.  I think you can, though, so I will stick with my original conclusion:  you are a vile disgusting piece of shit.  If anything, I think you are a plant to discredit the 9-11 truth movement.  If you google yourself, you will see links stating that you actually work for the CIA.

by Mia Dolan on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 08:06:24 PM PDT

Um, a tin foil hat for Mia please! 
And you call us the looney conspiracy theorists.  Not only do you believe that exploding toner cartridges are what the FDNY repeatedly witnessed in the towers, but you also think the CIA is out to get you.  I realize you're in a bind Mia, but you are really scraping the bottom of the barrel here.  Pray, where do you get this idea that googling Gretavo (short for Greta Von Dutch, my super secret alias) leads to the CIA?

by Gretavo on Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 04:48:42 AM PDT

www.google.com 
Someone named Gustavo Espada, who is a staff assistant at Harvard, goes by the nickname Gretavo on the web, is a member of the scholars group, and posts 9/11 conspiracy theories elsewhere.  Is that not you?

by Mia Dolan on Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 12:46:34 PM PDT

wow Mia! do you prefer Reynolds or store brand? 
Again, you said I'm a plant and work for the CIA.  Wrong.  You say, without evidence, that 19 mostly dead hijackers flew planes on 9-11.  Wrong.  You think WTC 7 had no explosives to help bring it down when it had only two little fires on a pair of floors.  Wrong.  You think the Israeli "art-students" were "tracking Arabs" before 9-11.  Wrong.  You say a 757 pierced 3 rings of the Pentagon leaving a nice neat hole in the third ring after penetrating 9 feet of reinforced concrete and then disappeared.  Wrong.  Everything you say you believe, Mia, is wrong.  Even that your name is really Mia Dolan.  As in Mia Dolan the famous psychic?  For all I know, YOU are Gustavo Espada, who seems from the google search I did to be a super spy involved in all kinds of crazy things, judging by the rants of someone who likes to post to indymedia sites around the world.  Really Mia, I think you need a rest.  Jacky Chiles has been working you awfully hard no doubt!

by Gretavo on Tue Apr 04, 2006 at 01:53:00 PM PDT

So Mia and others already knew who he was in 2006.  For the record, it's doubtful this clown is a direct CIA asset, however much he acted like one.  Far more likely his family is friends of friends working in government offices who are exploiting their positions to push a Nazi lite agenda and "gretavo" just helps out where he can.  Since con artists and intellegence agents use simular technigues, what better way to hide the con, than encouraging the idea there are COINTELPRO agents or "shills"?  When they're caught screwing with people, the targets assume the government is behind it and are afraid to report them.  It's one of the few strokes of genius these evil clowns came up with.

Pity it doesn't work any more:

Deception/fraud: TXXXXXX, JXXXXXX, 911blogger LLC, and others

Thursday, January 2, 2014

From: 

XXXXXXXXXXX@yahoo.com

To: 

antitrust(AT)ftc.gov

Hello;

I'm writing a complaint about these companies websites:  911blogger.com(9/11 Blogger Llc/TXXXX, JXXXX), and by extension, ae911truth.org(Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth/RXXXXX), rethink911.org(RXXXXX) and wtcdemolition.com(GXXXXX/SXXXXXX)....

The real CIA wouldn't want anything to do with the level of criminal liability these idiots have created with their Byzantine online confidence games.

Thank you Mia Dolan, wherever you are.


Edit:  

Turns out Hufschmid wasn't completely unknown to 911blogger in 2007.  There was an interview published in Jan 2005:

http://911blogger.com/archive/2005/01/eric-hufschmid-interview.html

The wayback machine shows Huffies Holocaust denial material was published at least by April 2005:

https://web.archive.org/web/20050406193450/http://www.erichufschmid.net/Conspiracies12.htm

Which is vitually unchanged from the current page[now hosted at http://hugequestions.com/Eric/Conspiracies12.htm ]

It's possible the page didn't exist in Jan of 2005, but it's more likely DZ didn't dig through the website; none of the Holocaust bollox is easily found on the first page Jan of 2005:

https://web.archive.org/web/20050130174735/http://erichufschmid.net/

But DZ might have had a clue all was not well  when this guy clearly doubts the Moon landings, which is on the front page:

https://web.archive.org/web/20050130174735/http://erichufschmid.net/Science_Challenge_24.html

Update  June 2014: 

It appears Gustavo Espada , and many others, have never stopped being members of Jim Fetzer Scholar's group:

www.scholarsfor911truth.org/21-2/

Currently, Scholars for 9/11 Truth has four categories of members: full members (FM), who have or have had academic appointments or the equivalent; associate members (AM), who have backgrounds and interests relevant to 9/11 research; and student members (SM), who are concerned about these issues and want to pursue them. The special category of society associate (SA) exists for others who wish to publicly support the association.
The presently enrolled members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth are as follows:

[scroll down to associate members]

 Associate Members Sterling D. Allan (AM)

New Energy Congress, Founder, PES Network, Inc, Executive Director

Garry Anaquod (AM)

Sessional instructor, First Nations University of Canada

Robert Anderson (AM)

Magazine Free-Lance Contributing Editor

James Arft (AM)

America First Party

Victoria Ashley (AM)

Architecture and physiological psychology, 911research.wtc7.net

Gwendolyn Atwood (AM)

Clinical psychologist, Ed.D., Harvard University

John C. Austin (AM)

Juris Doctorate; Music publishing; Radio broadcasting

Steve Baer (AM)

Solar energy, Manufacturing

David Benson (AM)

Actor; Conspiracy Theories; Edinburgh Fringe Festival

Michael Berger (AM)

Speaker, Spokesman, 911Truth.org

Mark S. Bilk (AM)

Computer programmer; Electronics technician/engineer; cosmicpenguin.com/911

Steve Bishop  (AM)

Information Technology

Kevin Bracken (AM)

Victorian Branch Secretary of the Maritime Union of Australia

Len Bracken (AM)

Credentialed Journalist, Graduate of GWU’s Elliott School of International Affairs,
Author of “Shadow Government: 9/11 and State Terror”

Jordan Brewster (AM)

Conspiracies

James Roger Brown (AM)

Director, The Sociology Center; Congressional Evidence Book Author

Fred Burks (AM)

Served for many years as a language interpreter for presidents and other dignitaries. WantToKnow.info/911information

D’Anne Burley (AM) 

Talk Show Host, Truthradio, RBNLIVE.COM

John Cameron (AM)

American politics

Bill Carlson (AM)

Webmaster, groups.yahoo.com/group/wrh/

Frank Carmen (AM)

Physics Ph.D., BYU

Thom Clark (AM)

Registered geologist, Environmental geologist

Muhammad Columbo (AM)

Graduate Engineer electronics wide industrial experience

Michael Copass  (AM)

Microbiology, Vaccinology, Immunology

Tim Costello (AM)

Consultant/Promoter

Judy Cunningham (AM)

Health Education, Counseling and Rehabilitation

Rose Davis (AM)

Publisher, Indian Voices

Steve De’ak (AM)

Network professional

Thaddeus Dombrowski (AM)

Mathematics, Computer science, Software engineering

Karel Donk (AM)

Multimedia and Web Design

Eric Douglas (AM)

New York City architect Chair of the Independent Peer Review Committe for the NIST WTC Reports at nistreview.org

Dominic Dudzik (AM)

Physics simulations, Electrical engineering

Brian Duncan (AM)

Fire Protection Engineering; Art and Creative Director; The Flywire, theflywire.com

Curtis T. Dunlap (AM)

Weather forecaster, Global Hawk technology

John Ekonomou (AM)

Attorney at Law

Gustavo Espada (AM)

Media and Culture, Administrator, Harvard University

Scott Fenton (AM)

Physics, Chemistry, Information Technology

Joel Ferrell (AM)

Pilot, Aeronautical engineer,  physics911.net/spine.htm

Bill Fikes, Jr. (AM)

U.S. Army, Website construction

Alex Floum (AM)

Attorney.

Which puts this post in perspective:
[from  http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/3488  ]

everything you need to know about Fetzer...

Submitted by gretavo on Fri, 2014-03-07 04:08.

Jim Fetzer: "I must say I think we're finding out Judy, what happened on 9/11. I'm just blown away by your work. This is the most fascinating development in the history of the study of 9/11 ... I'm going to make a wild guess Judy; I'm going to presume that these [directed energy] beams had to be located in Building 7?"
Judy Wood: "Nope. I don't think so."
Fetzer: "Planes?"
Judy Wood: "No ... I think it's very likely it's in orbit."
Fetzer: "Oh Really?? Oh ho ho ho ho! Oh Judy. Oh my oh my oh my oh my. This is huge ... this is huge Judy."
Non-Random Thoughts on RBN Live: Jim Fetzer interviews Judy Wood; November 11, 2006

Or this : http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/2766

Scholars for 9/11 Truth
 Submitted by gretavo on Thu, 2010-05-13 22:03.  The "charlatan" group formed by Fetzer after his split with Steven Jones.

Yeah, whatever.

Fraud and deception are such ugly words...but accurate.  Just take a look at Fetzer's Sandy Hook fiasco:


http://www.twincities.com/ci_22313176/retired-umd-professor-theorizes-that-government-behind-newtown

It won't end well...

The Anti-Semite Elephant in the Room: Libertarianism

 When I first started reading "truther" websites and forums, I noticed a high percentage of self identified Libertarians.  Knowing a few Libertarians IRF, I didn't think any thing of it.  This was when Libertarian meant socially liberal and fiscally conservative, with a wild streak of anarchism(that current Libertarians are pretending never happened).  They had well reasoned arguments, meant well, but were a touch naive about how real politics worked. And they never shouted "Liberty! Constitution!" as a final debate gambit.

None of these people are Libertarians today.  Either their understanding of the world grew or they learned how nuts Ron Paul was, and they were done.  I know a couple of self identified Libertarians now, one of which is simply uninformed.  The other is a lefty Libertarian, and lets be real: the LP couldn't care less about them. 

For a while on the forums almost everyone claimed to be "Libertarian".  Years later, with hindsight, one could see this was a safe strategy:  chose a political party that can mean anything, left or right, and the scammers could network with anyone without suspicion.  It was like when everyone claimed to be Buddhist.
 http://911blogger.com/news/2008-02-12/buddhists-question-official-reality-fri-8-feb-2008-002824-0000
 http://911blogger.com/news/2011-02-08/graeme-macqueen-911-context-resistance-radio#comment-245642
 http://911blogger.com/news/2006-10-29/constitution-party

 I don't believe that liberty is "God-given" -- I don't believe it has to be "given" by any entity for us to have it, and for it to be our inalienable right. (I am not, incidentally, an atheist -- I am a Buddhist, and Buddhism is a non-theistic religion, as you may know.)

 Whatever... I know a real Buddhist and this isn't one. 

 It was an non offensive theism that could mean anything, and was easy to fake.  In later years, they discovered Atheism, even easier to fake!  But if anything was the theism of the "Truth" movement, it was Libertarianism.  And it was the Libertarian Thinktanks who were responsible for much of the Anti-Semite propaganda in 911 truth.

Many criticisms of the "Truth" movement are valid, but usually incomplete.  The James Randi Forums are famous for picking theories to death, (a laudable activity), but barely scratching the surface of who invents them and the political goals behind them.  Part of it is cultural dissonance; there is a core of intellectuals who hold to "libertarian" ideals, and understandably are uncomfortable about what they'll find if the dig too far into the Libertarian party connections to the "truth" movement.  Understandable, but unwise, especially for those noting the proliferation of Anti-Semite theories in 911truth.  As it turns out, others have observed the Libertarian think tanks pushing Antisemitism, and the direct connection to the creation of 9/11 conspiracies:

Documenting Anti-Semitism Within the Libertarian Movement

Anti-Semitism is suspicion of, hatred toward, or discrimination against Jews for reasons connected to their Jewish heritage. The term was coined by non-Jews in late 19th century Europe as a more scientific-sounding term for Judenhass ("Jew-hatred"). In recent years, as the libertarian movement has grown, so has the anti-Jewish movement within this clan of activists supposedly concerned with promoting liberty and freedom for all of humanity.

The word libertarian comes from the root word "liberty" and refers to individuals who favor less government intrusion and are distrusting of government power. In the U.S., the libertarian movement, broadly speaking, consists of think-tanks, Ron Paul activists and organizations, and those affiliated with the Libertarian Party.

The anti-Semitism in the libertarian movement has manifested itself in all three categories at alarmingly high levels. It's difficult to imagine how any libertarian activist or scholar can envision success for their movement with such anti-libertarian sentiment and malicious bigotry in its midst.

We learn about "alibi Jews", like Davide Cole  and Gilad Aztmon:

The libertarian movement is ripe with Alibijude, or alibi Jews. Their job is easy: If someone is accused of anti-Semitism, the alibi Jew is brought in as a defending witness. In a movement with so few genuinely Jewish individuals, it is easy for the alibi Jews to get away with just about anything. They are free to bash Israel, defend anti-Semitism, promote the idea that a non-interventionist foreign policy would have been wise from 1939 to 1945, and misinform people about Jews and Judaism. It's an easy and worthwhile endeavor for the Alibijude, because they help anti-Semites get away with their crimes while warding off any anti-Semitic images within the libertarian movement.

And then we come to the main event: Blaming Jews for 911

Libertarian Think-Tanks and Anti-Semitism

Libertarian think-tanks are notorious for pushing an anti-Israel agenda. Of course, one can distrust the Israeli government while also holding no hard feelings toward Jewish individuals. But it is difficult to imagine that U.S. think-tanks would focus so much on Israel when one considers the small percentage that foreign aid constitutes in the United States federal budget. (Less than one percent of the federal budget goes toward foreign aid.) Three "libertarian" think-tanks do exactly that -- and much worse.

Justin Raimondo, the prime mover-and-shaker behind the antiwar.com website (and whose main source of income is antiwar.com), blames Israel for the attack of September 11, 2001. Of Jews, Raimondo says, "The savage mind, however, works differently. Shorn of what we would recognize as a moral sense, the savage glories in his capacity for pitiless violence. It's a survival mechanism: in his world, red in tooth and claw, instilling fear in your opponent means winning more than half the battle. As a survival strategy, it's like the one inmate who mutters ominously to himself while exhibiting all the characteristics of a violent psychotic: the other prisoners give him plenty of space because they think he's liable to do anything. So, too, in the case of the Israelis, who are signaling their willingness to go to any lengths in order to instill the fear of their wrath far and wide." He also calls Israel a racist theocracy and a "shitty little country".

What's interesting about this screed is how it project the right wing militia psychosis on an entire group of people.  Not even a nation, but the Jews. 

No discussion about Libertarianism and conspiracies can be complete without Ron Paul, who has himself contributed amply to the anti-Semite propaganda machine:

The Ron Paul Movement and Anti-Semitism

Savvy readers already know about Ron Paul's long-time ties to neo-Nazis and Holocaust deniers. It's no surprise, then, that the movement surrounding him has the same ties and conspiratorial ideas about Jews and Judaism. But the real question, asked by The New Republic's James Kirchick in 2011, is "Why Don't Libertarians Care About Ron Paul's Bigoted Newsletters?" Kirchick concludes that "the benefit of indulging in" the idea that the U.S. is on the verge of bankruptcy and collapse "is that it sets the stage for the arrival of a savior". Each libertarian think-tank, organization, or politician are setting themselves up to save the day. Conspiracy theories about the Federal Reserve, the bankers, Israel, and the Jewish Elders of Zion help fuel the narrative that the world is collapsing around us.

Ron Paul's long-time ally Justin Raimondo's problems with the Jews is outlined above. Another close associate of Paul, former chief-of-staff Lew Rockwell, now runs The Ludwig Von Mises Institute in Alabama. There, eager young students are indoctrinated in Austrian economics -- an anti-mathemics-based brand of economics that favors cultural conservatism, anti-interventionist foreign policy, and the gold standard. And Jew-bashing. The Ron Paul newsletters, approved by Paul and likely written by Rockwell, talk about Jewish conspiracy theories and Israel in newsletter after newsletter. Subsequently, these publications as well as fundraising letters from Paul were sent to mailing lists of the anti-Semitic, Holocaust-denying mail list of Willis Carto's tabloid, The Spotlight. Willis Carto is one of the most influential American anti-Semitic propagandists of the past 50 years. Mr. Paul has never acknowledged or apologized for what everyone knows to be the truth. Lew Rockwell was paid as a Ron Paul staffer from the late 1970s until at least the mid-1990s. He was the operations man behind Paul's efforts to demonize Jews and Israel. Additional specifics about Paul's anti-Semitic activities are provided here.

Ron Paul's organization, a (c)(3) educational group called the Campaign for Liberty -- whose Board of Directors is comprised of various Paul family members that financially benefit from its successes -- permits its users to promote anti-Jewish conspiracy theories at its website. Campaign for Liberty activist Clay Douglas has been promoting "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion", an anti-Semitic hoax purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination, at the organization's website since 2008.

It's like one pathetic train wreck of failure after another.  But not to people invested in these ideas.  Their goal has never been  "911 truth" or ending the FED.  And a winning third party is a pipe dream.

The cold fact is no third party is viable in the current political system.    It's a numbers game and the math is brutal:

If Party A  is  lefty  and   Party B is  righty 
Then Party C will split the vote of whichever party it has the most political similarity to.
Ergo, Party C will always help the main party with opposing politics to Party C win.

Maybe I'll make a cute little diagram later.  The point is in the current American political system, third parties will never win.  And to make a system where a third party would be viable, would require changes moving to instant run-off voting and extreme campaign finance reform.

These all smack of "socialism" ; the irony is no organization fielding third parties would go for this. In this situation they'd be defeated sounder than the already are.

So what's the point of fielding them?

To build  a base. In the case of the Libertarian party, a base for the far right.

It's not necessarily a base to vote for third candidates, though it's possible the brainwaves in the Libertarian thinktanks think so.   More likely they're just as aware of the mathematics and are cynically exploiting their base's ignorance.

There's also the money making aspect.  Funding from "money bombs", "donations" and other stunts
give the appearance of grassrootsyness.  And even if the have a handful of big donors, they can keep up the facade of being a legitimate party if they can point to donations from all the little people they scammed.

And there's the propaganda aspect.  They need an army of sheeple to spread these theories they invent in their super sekrit thinktank club houses.  And at the base of the propaganda is blaming Jews for...well, anything.

I don't agree with Chelm's final assessment, that the goal is the destruction of Israel:

Jewish libertarians or classical liberals -- or others who are pro-equal rights (pro-decency, really) should refrain from further participation in the libertarian movement. It actively works against Jews. It is not concerned about liberty for religious minorities; rather, quite the contrary. Moreover, there is little doubt that the modern libertarian movement is dedicated to the destruction of Israel.

Knowing these frauds as I do, the Libertarian propaganda is just one of many fronts to recruit and rally a fringe right base.  They are as dedicated to destroying Israel as they are to 911 "Truth" or "ending the FED".  In other words only as far as it serves their political agenda.  In the case of Israel, I doubt the people managing CATO or Von Mises would be happy if Israel disappeared: then they wouldn't have a target to rally the ignorant. 

That in no way diminishes the danger of regular folks, Jews or otherwise, who cross paths with a loon hyped up on these conspiracies.

A final note on the Chelm article:  More proof these toerags deliberately targeted the left antiwar movement to obscure their intentions and goals like many of the "truther" frauds:

antiwar.com

Granted it was the Bosnian war, but I guess if it worked then, they figured the "pretend to be antiwar" meme would work for pushing anti Semite propaganda around the Iraq war:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiwar.com

The site was founded in December 1995, as a response to the Bosnian war. It is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit foundation, operating under the auspices of the Randolph Bourne Institute, based in Atherton, California. It was previously affiliated with the Center for Libertarian Studies and functioned before that as an independent, ad-supported website.^[2]

They even claimed to be singing Kumbaya with the left, though admittedly they're honest about being Libertarians:

 This site is devoted to the cause of noninterventionism, and we have many regular readers who are pacifists, leftists, "greens," and independents, as well as many on the Right who agree with our opposition to imperialism. But our own politics are libertarian: our opposition to war is rooted in the concept that war is the health of the state, as Randolph Bourne put it. With every war, America has made a "great leap" into statism. In 1952, Garet Garrett, one of the last of the Old Right "isolationists," said it well: "Between government in the republican meaning, that is, Constitutional, representative, limited government, on the one hand, and Empire on the other hand, there is mortal enmity. Either one must forbid the other or one will destroy the other." This is the perception that informs our activism, and inspires our dedication. Noninterventionism abroad is a corollary to noninterventionism at home.

The editors were active in the Libertarian Party during the 1970s; in 1983, we founded the Libertarian Republican Organizing Committee, to work as a libertarian caucus within the GOP. Today, we are seeking to challenge the traditional politics of "Left" and "Right." At present, none of the existing parties or activist groups offers an effective vehicle for principled libertarian politics. Yet, even in the absence of a party of liberty, we cannot abstain from the struggle. Since opposition to war is at the heart of our philosophy, and single-issue politics is the only avenue open to us, Antiwar.com embodies the politics of the possible.

Our dedication to libertarian principles, inspired in large part by the works and example of the late Murray N. Rothbard, is reflected on this site, and we make no bones about it. While openly acknowledging that we have an agenda, the editors take seriously our purely journalistic mission, which is to get past the media filters and make the truth about America's foreign policy as widely known as possible. Citing a wide variety of sources without fear or favor, and presenting our own views in the regular columns of various contributors, we clearly differentiate between fact and opinion, and let our readers know which is which.

People just didn't understand what kind of Libertarians they were and the fact fringe right Libertarians can't coexist with any leftist.

Attention Whores for 9/11 Truth crash Super Bowl

Well, one does have to be a bit sorry for them.  Things are pretty dead now the 9/11 Truth = Patriot/Militia/Teabagger/  thing is out of the bag.

This was first blogged by "Joe" ate 911blogger:

 http://911blogger.com/news/2014-02-03/911-truther-seizes-mic-during-superbowl-mvp-speech-feb-3-2014

9/11 Truther Seizes Mic During Superbowl MVP Speech Feb 3, 2014

Posted by Joe on Mon, 02/03/2014 - 7:47am

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Giz2131Soig
9/11 Truther Seizes Mic During Superbowl MVP Speech
TRUTHstreammedia
Published on Feb 3, 2014
http://truthstreammedia.com/?p=7809&
(Truthstream Media.com) In an unexpected moment during MVP Malcolm Smith's speech after the Seattle Seahawks blowout at the Superbowl last night, something even more unexpected happened -- an actual important issue was brought up.
During the otherwise typical player press conference, an unidentified 9/11 truther suddenly grabbed the mic to interject on a heavily watched international news feed "Investigate 9/11. 9/11 was perpetrated by people within our own government." Reports confirm that it went out live; video was captured of the incident on ESPN.
He was quickly ushered offstage, with a stunned Malcolm Smith asking "Is everybody alright?" before joking "check his press pass."
Taking over the most anticipated press conference of the year's most widely watched sports game stands as one of the boldest episodes of "culture jamming," where activists pursuing the truth on 9/11 (or any other issue) have seized rare opportunities to get whatever press they can for pressing but controversial issues that the establishment-friendly media has all but refused to cover.
Though sports fans and commentators will undoubtedly scoff at the interruption as that of a fringe lunatic (as per the typical script), it will likely also raise some real questions.
Particularly as there is more to the story for 9/11 and the Seattle Seahawks.
Both the NBC Sports blog Pro Football Talk and the sports blog Deadspin reported on the press conference interruption by taking a shot at Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll, who apparently had his own 9/11 truth confrontation last summer.
According to an account posted by Deadspin, Seahawks coach Pete Carroll had an interview with retired Four Star Army General and commander of the Iraq War, Peter Chiarelli, where he steered talk about the Seattle sports team and their joint efforts in traumatic brain injury research into discussion about 9/11 and the Iraq War.
Deadspin reports that Superbowl winner Pete Carroll confronted Chiarelli and "wanted to know if the September 11 attacks had been planned or faked by the United States government." Carroll further asked "whether the attack on the Pentagon had really happened" and brought up 'every 9/11 conspiracy theory you can think of,' according to sources.
Seahawks offensive line coach Pat Ruel was among the sources who witnessed the meeting and claims that Carroll, "didn't stop at 9/11—he had lots of questions about the role of the military today."
Deadspin reports that the meeting turned "hostile," and that Chiarelli left the roof after his PR interview over football and traumatic brain injuries was rerouted into a confrontation over the many lies over the Iraq War and the 9/11 attacks that provided a pretext for the preemptive war.
A Seattle linebacker named Riki Ellison who now runs a Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance and connected Coach Carroll and retired General Chiarelli commented that "Pete had a four-star general in the room, one of the army's top guys. Why wouldn't you push the envelope?"
While the head coach's heated questions weren't televised like tonight's post-game 9/11 truther, they stand as perhaps an even bolder example of demanding accountability and truth for the inside job to take America to war and warp its society into a paranoid Orwellian police state.
Meanwhile, questions loom about how this truther got past security and infiltrated a high profile press conference during the biggest event in professional sports? Given the controversial comments of Seattle's head coach, perhaps this incident too will prove to be an inside job.
Website: TruthstreamMedia.com
Twitter: @TruthstreamNews
FB: Facebook.com/TruthstreamMedia

 "Inside" job or not, something is wrong with SuperBowl security, though it is amusing that "Truthstream" is making accusations about paranoia while suggesting this was an "inside job".  If it was, all that means is the Patriot loons are working Super Bowl security and need to be sacked.

Almost three hours later our lovable lying "Orangatan" drives by with virtually the same blog:

http://911blogger.com/news/2014-02-03/matthew-mills-takes-mic-after-super-bowl-xlviii-address-nation-911

WeAreChange takes the mic after Super Bowl XLVIII to address the nation on 9/11

Posted by Orangutan. on Mon, 02/03/2014 - 10:30am

• ESPN
• Malcolm Smith
• Super Bowl
• wearechange

WATCH: MVP Malcolm Smith Interrupted By Man Calling For 9/11 Probe
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/02/02/mvp-malcolm-smith-interrupted-by-man-calling-for-911-probe/

 Thing is...how did 911blogger co owner Orangatan know We Are Change is involved?
He adds an impressive list of link spam, mostly from credible sources:

The man said: “Investigate 9/11. 9/11 was perpetrated by people within our own government.”
Winning Seahawks coach Pete Carroll also questions 9/11. As do some old-timers, like 5-time NFL Pro Bowl center Mark Stepnoski (Dallas Cowboys and Houston Oilers) and former NFL running back Bill Enyart (Buffalo Bills and Oakland Raiders).
As well as Rashard Mendenhall, former running back for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
http://instagram.com/p/j8IguYvRPU/
9/11 Truther: How I sneaked into Super Bowl XLVIII -- and hijacked the postgame show
http://www.nj.com/super-bowl/index.ssf/2014/02/super_bowl_2014_911_truther_says_he_snuck_into_metlefe_stadium.html
911 conspiracy theorist interrupts Super Bowl MVPs press conference
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/2/2/5372666/911-conspiracy-theorist-truther-super-bowl-2014
A 9/11 Truther Crashed Super Bowl MVP Malcolm Smith's Press Conference (VIDEO)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/02/malcolm-smith-911-truther-interview-video_n_4714933.html
9/11 truther arrested after interrupting Super Bowl news conference
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/03/911-truther-arrested-after-interrupting-super-bowl-news-conference/
Super Bowl MVP Malcolm Smith interrupted by 9/11 truther
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24428289/super-bowl-mvp-malcolm-smith-interrupted-by-911-truther
Seahawks Coach Peppered 4-Star General With 9/11 'Conspiracy' Questions
http://911blogger.com/news/2013-07-22/seahawks-coach-peppered-4-star-general-911-conspiracy-questions
Obama and Bush Warn Not To Challenge The Official 9/11 Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05uEiVEsh0A
Better video, full screen, to pass around:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNQlRseW2NA
The Most Boring Superbowl Ever … Until 9/11 Truth Proponent Interrupts MVP Interview
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/02/boring-superbowl-ever-911-truth-proponent-interrupts-mvp-interview.html#comments

But they still don't explain how the ape knew it was We Are Change.

One article does have the information:

Matthew Mills, left in an interview with former NBC News anchor Tom Brokaw, was arrested after he snuck into a Super Bowl postgame news conference on Sunday. (YouTube)

 http://www.nj.com/super-bowl/index.ssf/2014/02/super_bowl_2014_911_truther_says_he_snuck_into_metlefe_stadium.html

  By A.J. Perez/NJ.com
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on February 03, 2014 at 4:02 AM, updated February 03, 2014 at 4:10 PM
EAST RUTHERFORD -- The Brooklyn man arrested after he interrupted Super Bowl XLVIII MVP Malcolm Smith's postgame news conference didn't start Sunday looking to make it onto national TV and, ultimately, into handcuffs.
Matthew Mills, an 30-year-old independent journalist from Brooklyn, told NJ.com his aim was just to get close to MetLife Stadium -- which had layers of security in what's supposed to be the most secure sporting event in the United States -- so he could conduct some fan interviews.
Then the self-described 9/11 truther saw an employee bus at Secaucus Junction and hopped aboard.
Around Mills' neck was an old credential from a festival he covered, a rectangular badge that, at quick glance, didn't look too dissimilar from the ones issued to media members, team employees and others who worked the Super Bowl.
He also used a common refrain whenever hassled by security, which is supposed to verify each credential or ticket with a barcode along with putting attendees through other security screenings.
"I just said I was running late for work and I had to get in there," Mills said. "It was that simple."
Mills said he got through multiple layers of security using that bogus story.
"I didn't think that I'd get that far," Mill said. "I just kept getting closer and closer. Once I got past the final gate and into the stadium, I was dumbfounded."

After the game concluded, Mills walked into the media tent, where players and coaches were brought for interviews. 

"I just saw my opportunity to get my word out there and I took it," Mills said.
Mills grabbed the microphone as Smith began to talk to reporters and said the 9/11 attacks on New York and Washington were "perpetrated by people in our own government."
"Check his press pass," Smith said with a smirk after the initial shock wore off.
He didn't have one. Mills didn't even have a ticket. Still, he was able to get his message out to a national audience as ESPN and other outlets showed the presser live.
Mills was quickly ushered off the dais by a public relations representative and eventually arrested. Mills left the area without a struggle and was charged with trespassing. He was released a couple hours later on his own recognizance.
But Mills' gate-crashing leaves people wondering: With all of the millions spent on security, how safe is the Super Bowl anyway?
An NFL spokesman has referred all questions to the New Jersey State Police, the law enforcement agency that oversees the Meadowlands.
An NJ State Police spokesman gave NJ.com Mills' name, but didn't immediately return a message inquiring about how Mills was able to get into MetLife.
Mills is affiliated with WeAreChange, an organization whose aim is "confronting prominent and powerful people with the tough questions the mainstream media doesn't want to ask."

Okay.  So the info is on the interwebs....except this story, according to the Google search engine, was published 3 hours ago(the date of the article implies it was early AM.  Who's right?)

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   9/11 truther: How I sneaked into Super Bowl XLVIII -- and hijacked the postgame show

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   9/11 truther: How I sneaked into Super Bowl XLVIII -- and hijacked the ... Mills is affiliated with WeAreChange, an organization whose aim is ...

Orangatan published almost 2hours before(3 hours ago), from my current time.  So I'm back to how did he know?

The O and WAC go way back.    His whines on reddit  are worthy of Craig Lazo's crying:

MSNBC Slanders WeAreChange – Labels Us A Right-Wing Extremist Group (wearechange.org)

submitted 11 months ago by Orangutan

Sweetie, it's not slander if it's true: http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/09/01/charges-against-we-are-change-leader-belie-pacifist-image/

[Aside: personally I think the SPLC needs to dig deeper on this one.  Then they'll find Luke is hardly the "leader" they're looking for.  WAC had it's origins in gullible Patriot truther Alex Jones fan bois.  WAC can safely be considered an Alex Jones/Infowars satellite. Luke is just another person unsophisticated dupe, exploited by militia group brainwashing.  However, I agree 100% with the SPLC that WAC is fronting fringe goals and politics.   What SPLC needs to do is ask why there is such a wide discrepancy between Luke and Bruno's world view.  Hint:  FRAUDULENT MISREPRESENTATION-Luke believes the fairy tale because his closest WAC friends act as if it's true.  He can convince himself that Bruno is an aberration, when in fact Bruno is the real WAC] 

For instance : this was once on the WAC  website but only comes up in searches now:

We Are Change Booted Out of California Tea Party Event | We Are ...

wearechange.org/we-are-change-booted-out-of-california-tea-party-event/‎

by Luke Rudkowski - in 579 Google+ circles

Apr 26, 2010 - http://911blogger.com Orangutan. The Recent TEA PARTY MOVEMENT was started by the 9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT in BOSTON in ...

Note O is referred on the website. Is the Tea Party something they really want to take credit for?  Apparently so...if they really wanted to leave yet another clue the "truth" movement was a right wing fringe front:

It is against this venerable historical backdrop that one must concede that the most well known, highly publicized American social/political movement today -- the Tea Party movement -- is a national embarrassment.
At its core, the Tea Party movement is rife with contradiction, incoherence and a willful contempt for facts or reason. It is but a parody of the legitimate movements for which American democracy has historically been held in such high regard. It is, in fact, the latest installment in quite another American tradition: the exploitation of frustrated, desperate, and susceptible people by monied interests and profiteers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stuart-whatley/the-tea-party-movement-is_b_455883.html

There's one ray of sunshine in this article that applies directly to 911 "truth":

Of course, the Tea Party is not without its whistleblowers. The $500 per plate entry fee to last week's convention almost led to it being canceled altogether. But the exodus of reasonable elements will only homogenize the movement further towards a particularly polarizing worldview that opens itself to continued profit-driven exploitation.

That is the 9/11 Truth Movement TODAY.  All the reasonable sounding people are either gone, or have, after being revealed as frauds, decided to go very very quiet.   Only the puppetmasters and the clowns remain.  Bringing us back to Mills Super Bowl stunt.

A list of facts about this pr stunt:
http://www.heavy.com/news/2014/02/matthew-mills-911-truther-malcolm-smith-super-bowl-press-conference/

One Twitter user, @TrueNameBrand, claims to be a former classmate of Mills'. He tweeted the following 1998 yearbook picture Monday afternoon:

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#MatthewMills 1998 yearbook. @TrueNameBrand went to school with him. #Investigate911 ==> http://t.co/9OkaJicfSB pic.twitter.com/M64o73phiT
— ヽ(ಠ_ಠ)ノ (@JoeMomasNuts) February 3, 2014

One Twitter user, @TrueNameBrand, claims to be a former classmate of Mills'. He tweeted the following 1998 yearbook picture Monday afternoon:

Read more at: http://www.heavy.com/news/2014/02/matthew-mills-911-truther-malcolm-smith-super-bowl-press-conference/

https://twitter.com/TrueNameBrand/status/430391070460248064/photo/1

TrueNameBrand is AKA "Thought Crime Lifer".  That sent some flags up.  And sure enough, recent retweets by "ThoughtCrime"/TrueName" are back to, you guessed it, Da Jews:

Jew Dominated Hollywood Loves Jew Pedophile Woody. While many Americans have sworn him off for decades http://t.co/7MsP3QySbM #p2 #tcot
— Stephanie Gilley (@StephieGilley) February 4, 2014

Retweeted by Thought☭Crime☭Lifer

Stephanie Gilley ‏@StephieGilley 24m

Jew Dominated Hollywood Loves Jew Pedophile Woody. While many Americans have sworn him off for decades http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Woody_Allen … #p2 #tcot

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4:20 PM - 3 Feb 2014 · Details

 I dislike Woody Allen and his exiled pedo buddy as much as the next pedo hater.  But I never see a reason to highlight his ethnicity....or imply all Jews are Pedos.  Only racist, Nazi loving trash do that.

Mills' friend obviously supporting anti-Semite/racist tweets, implies Mills "truth" activities ARE part of a racist right wing front.  

Huston, we've been Godwined. 

Matt Mills, kindly do humanity a favor and GTFO until you're no longer friends with people spreading Nazi trash.   And that includes the "truth" movement.