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May 31, 2015

Cointelpro, Wikileaks and 911truth, or 'Why We Know There Are No Agents'



To many it seems obvious the claims of "cointelpro agents" or CIA agents sent to disrupt or stop the "truth from coming out is paranoid conspiracy nonsense, along with "concerns" about the New World Order Illuminati Jews being behind everything.

But if the introduction to a group or email list was based on something much more reasonable--social justice work, peace activism, protesting the war in Iraq-- the idea of is not impossible, though one is unlikely to take it too seriously, at least at first.

The problem is, in the history of real activism, there were government programs funded to infiltrate, and in some cases disrupt, legitimate activist groups.  The American Indian and the civil rights movements are a couple of cases.  The Cointelpro program is a documented example.  The motives were a mix of institutional reactionary conservatism and genuine cultural suspicions of radical new movements, never mind their goals were social justice.  To get an idea of the mentality behind infiltrating peace groups, imagine that most people employed in powerful government positions were Tea Partiers.  There wouldn't be a "Tea Party" because they'd be running the show  and want to keep it that way

Fast forward to today.   The institutional conservatism of yesteryear has crumbled.  Dinosaurs from the pre-civil rights past can no longer depend on being humoured except in the most backward of states.   Even the GOP has all but abandoned the gay rights/marriage "values" battle as not being worth the fight.  But there remains a sizeable population who feels aggrieved, as if recognizing other peoples human rights somehow takes away theirs.   And while these people have no political pull outside of reactionary circles, they do have cash that can be flimflammed out of them by promises to return to the "Good Old Days". 

This a political fraud Ron Paul became quite expert at, though he's not the only one.  It has several necessary parts:

1. Scapegoatism.  It almost doesn't matter who the scapegoat starts out as.  Eventually it will be revealed to be "Jews".

2. Appeal to Authority:  claiming to be expert, experienced, in possession of special knowledge.  Which Leads to.

3: Persecution complex  : the reason this knowledge is not well known is because of "distruptors" or "agents" trying to muddle the waters with "disinfo".  Eventually the following question will be asked:

4: Why have "they" not killed off the keeper of secrets? The frauds are still working on this one.   Usually once someone starts asking this question, whether a skeptic or a believer who is having doubts, the person's criticisms are written off as the ravings of an "agent"  out to suppress the truth.

This is a self contained loop.  All problems the believer has are due to a "scapegoat", the "authority" has secret information they dispense that no one knows because they are persecuted by the "scapegoat".  Never mind the all powerful scapegoat makes no move to kill or disrupt the "authoritys" life, or, at the very least, have their websites removed.  Which would be really easy for  "government funded agent" to do.  One fabricated claim of Child Pornography on the servers would do the trick.  

This illogic loop keeps people engaged as increasingly more alarming stories of police state repression, often taken out of context (if not outright lies), that are spread to keep the faith.  Religious terminology is being used deliberately, because claims of waking up sheeple to the contrary, the last thing the people benefiting from the truther fraud want is anyone thinking level headed about the issue.

The depressing fact is most people sucked into the conspiracy hoodoo circles take claims of "agents" at face value.  As it is not a default assumption of mine, I have never understood it.  My experience is when people start claiming there are agents etc and they are asked to further explain themselves, or God help them, for proof, things get very very woolly.   If one is approaching 9/11 "truth" from a  historical antiwar perspective, the idea of an agent isn't completely improbable.  But it's also not going to inspire instant paranoia.  On the contrary, if one has no reason to believe they're involved with anything illegal, the idea of catching an agent screwing with my constitutional rights is like Christmas coming early.    It's just a matter of catching them at it.

But it's a long, long road to even taking the idea seriously.  It requires layers of confidence games that are nonsensical at the time, but have one purpose: to convince the few stubborn people "agents" are at work disrupting "truther" activism.  

For instance, one party may send a gushing email  thanking the target for "everything they do".  They hope the target engages, shares more information, which is passed on to other members of the con, members the target is either unaware of or has been given to believe the contact disapproves of.  Weeks or months pass.  If the target remains stubborn or becomes problematic in other ways, this information is leaked "anonymously".  Sometimes even the party who had complimented the target abruptly and publicly switches sides.  Others will say pompously: "See, told ya there were agents!"  (Years later all these people will be exposed as working the same con because eventually te piss off the wrong people.  But that's another story.)

This works with disturbing regularity.  The first assumption should not be of agents, but of a con.  Because it doesn't matter if the person is an agent or not;  contacting people under false pretences to manipulate them is fraud.  And fraud...and conspiracy to commit fraud, and using ISP/emails for malicious communications... are all actual crimes.  As Lazo's associate Mark Fisher found out.

And this is why it is my personal belief the Myth of "Agents" in the truth movement is protected at all costs: once it's obvious the so called "agent" activity is a fraud, it will be impossible to control or protect what is left of the "truther" movement.  

But even knowing how absurd and unlikely "agents" are, it is still useful to once and for all put the matter at rest:  The reason we know---not suspect, but know-- there are no Cointepro/CIA agents active to disrupt 9/11 truth is because the very merchants of these conspiracies were customers of the CIA affiliate STRATFOR.

In late 2011- early 2012, Wikileaks with Anonymous leaked the customer list of STRATFOR, a private intelligence firm that did work for the CIA.  The lists included names, email addresses and credit card numbers.  STRATFOR denied they had a security breach, but it was all posted at the Dazzlepod site, where anyone could look up their information.

In the last year it was deleted but one can find the home page in wayback.

STRATFOR
cleartext passwords

On December 25, 2011, the Anonymous group hacked into a private intelligence agency, Strategic Forecasting Inc. or STRATFOR, based in Austin, Texas. The attack began with the release of STRATFOR's client list announced at https://twitter.com/#!/AnonymousIRC/status/150679351589998593 followed by release of accounts in batches believed to belong to STRATFOR's customers. The release announced in another Twitter post at https://twitter.com/#!/AnonymousIRC/status/150985258999885824 includes emails, passwords (hashed with MD5), home/office addresses and credit card information (full 16-digit number, expiry date and CVV number). The table below is the list of the leaked accounts with the passwords removed.

STRATFOR has brought down their site following the attack but kept their members posted on the status of the attack via their Facebook page.



UPDATE (January 2, 2012): We have processed all 860,000 STRATFOR's registered users and added them into the table below. These users do not have their credit card information leaked. The earlier accounts with credit card information leaked are now tagged with "cc" in the table below.

This disclosure was mentioned in PCWorld, Forbes, CNN, MSNBC, FOX News and TheBlaze.

UPDATE (December 30, 2011): The Anonymous group has just released the remaining accounts making the total of leaked STRATFOR's accounts with credit card information to a total of approx. 75,000. The table below has been updated to include these accounts. Additionally, login information for approx. 860,000 STRATFOR's registered users have been leaked as well but they don't include credit card information; we may update the table below to include these users later.


At the time, for people who still thought there was something to "trutherism" this was exciting news.  Immediately the trusting and naive started looking for evidence on Wikileaks of an "inside job".  They came up with nothing and slowly decided Wikileaks was "controlled opposition".   For instance, this article implies STRATFOR was "concerned":


Wikileaks email dump shows Stratfor’s Burton concerned about skepticism concerning Osama narrative
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Tuesday, March 6, 2012

The deluge of Stratfor.com emails released a result of the recent Wikileaks data dump includes a brief note from Stratfor’s vice president for intelligence Fred Burton in which he urges the U.S. government to show photos of Osama Bin Laden’s corpse in order to silence “lunatics like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck” who had questioned the government’s official narrative behind the death of the terror mastermind....

This was eyerollingly predictable and strained, even to people who still bought "truthersim".  There are only so many times one can claim "cointelpro/controlled opposition/disinfo" before it's a clear mantra to explain away inconvenient facts.  Could it be the reason there was no evidence of an "Inside Job" is that there was no "Inside Job"?

That by itself would be disappointing in the sense of wasting time on something that wasn't real.  But even more troubling was that at least two conspiracy websites that pushed the 911 truth movement, Before it's News and Infowars, knew it wasn't real.  Or at least knew they weren't targets of the CIA or any affiliated agency action.  Because both these websites were STRATFOR customers and listed on dazzlepod...under identifiable email addresses:


ID Email / Username Password
794631 1oldpath@infowars.net
  

693272 kirsten@beforeitsnews.com

It doesn't take much imagination to conceive an activist of any stripe signing up for STRATFOR services to see "what they're up to".  But anyone doing so under their real name and identifiable email address is LYING about being targeted by the CIA or any related intelligence firm.
Yet here are some stories from both sites claiming concern about "agents" and "inflitration".
Zionist agents infiltrating  the Truth Movement
Paranoid garbage about the CIA infiltrating alternative media
Yet oddly considering the CIA a valid source for more conspiracy nonsense

Infowars is just as colorful:

CIA Killed Phillip Marshall for Leaking 9/11 Secrets

and article apparently written by White Power booster Kevin Barrett.

Infowars and Before its News aren't the only ones.  Craig "Killtown" Lazo's Portland group and associates had a ridiculously high percentage of STRATFOR customers, including a woman who was part of a radical radio station who had promoted group events:

Gregory Thomson aka Ozzybinoswald, close friend of Lazo and inventor of conspiracy garbage like Mark Humphrey being the Harley Guy and repeating smoke "fakery".  Ozzy really really wants you to believe "agents" perps and shills exist.


152542 hisholiness@rome.com ***

Petros Evdokas, caught having a bizarre convo with Lazo on the Cyprus Indymedia email list.  Really, really wants you to believe he was targeted by the CIA...for reasons.  Was also confronted on Indymedia lists for misrepresenting himself and his circumstances.  In other words, he's a fraud.  Daddy Evdokas was a right wing politician:
 The Democratic National Party (Greek: Δημοκρατικό Εθνικό Κόμμα, ΔΕΚ, DEK), was a far-right nationalist political party in Cyprus that advocates union of Cyprus and Greece (Enosis).[1]

This might explain Evdokas' friendship with White Supremacist supporter Kevin Barrett.  Both Evdokas are in the STRATFOR database, but only as persons of political interest. 

 4. EVDOKAS, PETER, 16 YEARS, NO. 23 VASALI MICHAELIDES STREET, NICOSIA, PHONE 43665.
 3. FOLLOWING SWEARING IN OF CABINET, MAKARIOS TOLD PRESS THAT "NATIONAL COUNCIL" HAS BEEN SET UP TO ADVISE PRESIDENT ON BROAD POLICY ISSUES. UNIFIED PARTY WILL BE REPRESENTED BY TASSOS PAPA- DOPOULOS, PROGRESSIVE FRONT BY STAVROS POSKOTIS, AKEL BY PARTY LEADER PAPAIOANNOU, EDEK BY LYSSARIDES, AND DEK BY TAKIS EVDOKAS. PRO-ENOSIS ESEA HAS NOT YET NAMED REPRESENTATIVE. CLERIDES IS EX-OFFICIO MEMBER.

Neither of them have been "oppressed".


ID Email / Username Password
408068 ttetpos@yahoo.com ***

JT Waldron: Conspiracy hack who joined Craig Lazo's Portland truther group(s) in 2010, 2011(?).  Website plays the just asking questions game, while comments are frequently and virulently anti semetic. Really, really wants you to believe the CIA threatened 9/11 researchers.


ID Email / Username Password
748320 jt@theintercept.com ***


Theresa Mitchell, aka Presswatch, an associate and booster for Craig Lazo's Portland group.   She's a "reporter" for an alternative(read, crank) radio station called KBOO that started off as genuine alternative media but has fallen victim to cronyism and Tea Party-esque conspiracy woo.  Has several programs endorsing 911 truth and/or bemoaning the suppression of the "truth".  Really, really wants you to believe Right Wing false flag hysteria and in "Cognitive Infiltration".  Soon after the 9/11 attacks Mitchell expressed concern about CIA activities:
For those of you who feel up to an anarcho-syndicalist and historically critical view of current events, stay tuned for the sort of dissent that is tacitly banned from the corporate-owned media. My surprise at the attacks did not stem from the assumption that they would never occurñI was merely shocked, as everyone was, by the sudden and terrifying loss of life. Given the simplicity of the attack, and the gravity of US provocations around the world for decades, it is remarkable that there have been so few major acts of violence on US soil. In the wake of the US destruction of democracy in Iran in 1954, for example, the CIA set up torture dungeons to aid the rule of the US puppet, the Shah. Here I use the word ìtorture dungeonî in a specific sense; the world saw, after the fall of the Shahís regime, that underground prisons had been constructed, in which dissidents were tortured using information passed along by the CIA.
Apparently her misgivings didn't extend to subscriptions with CIA associates.
https://dazzlepod.com/stratfor/?email=polemics17

ID Email / Username Password
224882 polemics17@gmail.com ***


Other STRATFOR subscribers involved with conspiracy circles include members of Lew Rockwell's Von Mises institute, and the Larouche fraud Webster Tarpley(See also Kennebunkport Hoax):



590746 webstertarpley@yahoo.com ***


676964 vning@mises.com ***

Most of these people have claimed at one time or another to be targets of the CIA/COINTELPRO/Agents  and yet they somehow didn't have the foresight to use a burner email account when registering with a business affiliate of the CIA.

From the Mises website(mises.com and mises.org are owned by the same group):

The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies - Mises Community Archive ...
mises.org/.../forums/t/forums/t/32086.aspx
Ludwig von Mises Institute
Oct 18, 2012 - 33 posts - ‎14 authors
The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies ... This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down ...
This is a redirect to this posting.  Maybe the person posted it really believed it, but clearly the people running Mises don't. 

And neither does Webster Tarpley.  He's got one article about "How to identify a CIA limited Hanghout".  But the most priceless one is accusing Wikileaks of being Cognitive Infiltration.  I'd suspect this was revenge for the Anonymous STRATFOR leak, except this article was published 9 months too soon.  In any case, the most suspicious omission from Tarpley's website is any mention of STRATFOR  after the customer email list was leaked. 

Any real activist who knew about STRATFOR would know the business they were in and take a basic precaution of using a fake email.   The fact none of these people used a burner account indicates they all KNEW the conspiracy of 911 and their persecution by or concern about agents was a lie.

The anticipated fall-back position will be :  "That proves THEY are the agents!  Duh!"

Hmm, no.  A real agent would use separate emails to communicate with an "agency" and the people they were "disrupting".   To not do so would get them fired.  These people are reckless amateurs, displaying the usual arrogance of Libertarian/patriot conspiracy frauds thinking they'd never be caught.  You'd think they'd learn after the nth time Anonymous/antifa/ara leaked their emails...

So why did they subscribe to STRATFOR's services?  One probable reason is if you're trying to dupe people into believing a worldwide conspiracy and you claim to have special knowledge, it's really helpful if you do have some privy information to impress the rubes.    Someone with that type of access could hot read rubes all day long.  Who knows, maybe that's how Alex Jones made his fortune.
The point is , by using identifiable emails to subscribe to a CIA affiliated service, these people prove they know they are NOT targets of the CIA.   Therefore their claims of agents/disruptors are lies.   Since this is their basis of proof that a 911 "Inside Job" truth is being suppressed, one can also conclude, since they know these agents don't exist, there is no 9/11 conspiracy for any agents to suppress.

This may seem backwards from the obvious observation outside the conspiracy culture: that there are no agents because there is no conspiracy, but remember it's these individuals who worked overtime, with a variety of confidence games, to convince people "agents were out there".     By subscribing to services with STRATFOR,  a corporation who works closely with the CIA, they showed they never believed in agents or the conspiracy except as a means to defraud people.

The reason there are no agents is because "Trutherism" is a fraud and there is nothing to "suppress".  And the leaders who invented the truther theories knew it. I patiently await the day they all end up in federal prison. It wouldn't be the first time for some of these political frauds.


Apr 29, 2014

They remain convinced: U.S. behind 9/11

Old article dated in August of 2006, around the same time the new wave of "truthers", both scammers and dupes, began to appear.  Archived for historical purposes.  As more and more scam/spam 911 conspiracy websites disappear, these become easier to find.

http://www.lowellsun.com/front/ci_4173789

They remain convinced: U.S. behind 9/11

By EVAN LEHMANN, Sun Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON -- The sudden collapse, the seamless downward cascade of the crumbling World Trade Center towers planted doubt in Bruce Henry's mind.
The way the buildings fell didn't seem right. The implosion-like plummeting, the absence of central beams and girders refusing to fall, the speed of the collapse -- all raised suspicion for the retired mathematics professor from Worcester.
"That was the seed," said Henry, who taught at Worcester State College. "To me it seems so transparent with a minimal amount of reflection that there's something catawampus," or cockeyed, with the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
Finally, he came to a shocking conclusion that runs counter to the accepted history of America's darkest day: The towers, he believes, "were brought down by planted explosives."
He's not alone.
Henry and several other Bay State residents are members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, a controversial group that claims elements of the U.S. government, not Osama bin Laden, masterminded the deadly attacks that killed almost 3,000 Americans.
Members of the group, including about 80 professors nationwide, generally believe the attacks were designed around building support for an aggressive U.S. strategy in the Middle East.
Members point to a string of what they describe as discrepancies in the accepted history of the attacks, including continuing uncertainty about why a third World Trade Center tower, known as Building 7, collapsed without being struck by a plane.
"There is something hugely wrong with the official story," said Gwendolyn Atwood, 45, of Lincoln, a clinical psychologist trained at Harvard University and a group member.
The group's theories collide with the findings of the 9/11 Commission and an exhaustive investigation by the National Institute of Standards and Technology, a government agency, launched to determine the cause of the buildings' collapse.
Fires resulting from the impact of the fuel-laden airliners destroyed the twin towers, according to reports by the NIST, which assigned 200 employees to the two-year investigation.
The agency interviewed more than 1,000 people near the scene of the attack or who helped design the buildings, analyzed 236 pieces of metal from the wreckage and studied 150 hours of video and almost 7,000 photographs capturing the collisions and collapses.
The agency's final report rejects "alternative hypotheses suggesting the WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolition using explosives planted prior to September 11, 2001."
Many people, however, are not convinced.
A poll released this week by Scripps Howard News Service found that 36 percent of Americans believe "people in the federal government either assisted in the 9/11 attacks or took no action to stop the attacks because they wanted to United States to go to war in the Middle East."
Guido H. Stempel III, director of Scripps Survey Research Center, believes the poll highlights discontentment with the Bush administration, which has struggled to convince Americans that the war in Iraq is justified, faced criticism for its domestic eavesdropping program and weathered declining approval ratings.
"The (administration's) effort to tie 9/11 to the Iraq war is just something a lot of people don't buy," Stempel said. "What I'm saying is if (government officials) tell you a story that's not correct, people say 'What else is wrong?' "
Fifty-one percent of Democrats responding to the poll said the government was involved in 9/11, compared to 18 percent of Republicans, Stempel said.
Conspiracy theories are popular in American culture. Forty percent of Americans still believe the government was involved in President John F. Kennedy's assassination, and 38 percent believe the government is hiding proof that aliens exist, according to polls taken last month.
Lacking a smoking gun to make their argument, Scholars for 9/11 Truth members point to a list of reasons they say proves their point when taken together. 
"It's sort of a cumulative effect," said Gustavo Espada, 31, of Somerville, a member and graduate of Harvard, where he works in information technology. "I don't think anybody has a 100 percent view of what actually did happen on 9/11."
Espada spends about 10 hours a week handing out literature, Web logging and talking with people on the street about his views on 9/11. A 90-minute symposium organized by Scholars for Truth was also broadcast on C-SPAN last month.
"There's a point of view out there ... we just wanted to shed some light on it," said C-SPAN spokeswoman Jennifer Moire.
The message, however, has not reached Don Goodrich, whose son, Peter, died aboard Flight 175 when it struck the second tower of the WTC.
"I don't pass judgment on the groups," said Goodrich of Bennington, Vt., adding that they are "unimportant to me."
Goodrich, too, has searched for evidence that could explain the attacks -- an exercise that has generated little fulfillment.
"The inevitable consequence ... is that much is unknown and forever will be unknown about what happened that day," he said.

Also of historical relevance is the "symposium organized by Scholars for Truth was also broadcast on C-SPAN last month" refenced.  This was promoted at Alex Jones prisonplanet website:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/310706cspan.htm





It linked heavily  to 911blogger, though many links are dead:
This is another hammer blow to the establishment kingpins who had hoped questions about 9/11 would evaporate as we approach the 5th anniversary of the attack.
The 9/11 Blogger website is coordinating numerous activism campaigns in alliance with the C-Span coverage, including encouraging UN members to view the broadcast, targeting left and right radio and TV gatekeepers, and also a flyer campaign.
We implore everyone to get onboard with these campaigns and help spread 9/11 truth to the four corners of the world via the exemplary platform of the American Scholars Symposium.

But never fear, where there's a will to document conspiracy con artists, there's a way:

http://www.911blogger.com/2006/07/urge-un-members-to-watch-c-span-aug.html

Monday, July 31, 2006

Urge UN Members to Watch C-Span Aug. 1st

In addition to the Talk Radio Mass Mobilization discussed above (an excellent campaign), Nila Sagadevan sent me the following invitation to contact the UN. (Sorry for the long post, but this has not been posted anywhere else on the web). Personally, I don't recommend stressing Chavez -- whatever you think of him, the U.S. has basically declared him an enemy.
BELOW YOU'LL FIND A MESSAGE AND THE EMAILS OF THE ENTIRE UNITED NATIONS PERMANENTE MISSIONS FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD. Please A) Send the below message to them, and B) forward this entire email action on to all your contacts, urging them
to do the same. TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE C-SPAN'S AIRING IT TOMORROW!!
========================================

THE SUBJ. LINE TEXT FOR UN MESSAGE:

C-SPAN, Aug 1st, 6:10 EDT - 9/11 INSIDE JOB !! Media MUST WATCH !!

THE BODY OF MESSAGE TO SEND TO UN MEMBERS:
It is incumbent upon ALL United Nations members to watch this program, and
to investigate the evidence analyzed at BYU Physics Dept. proving 9/11 was
an inside job, by way of the controlled demolition of the 3 WTCs.
Thermate/Sulfer traces on WTC debris.

Hugo Chavez of Venezuela and other leaders are discussing launching a global
International Tribunal to Investigate 9/11. PLEASE JOIN THEM.

This HISTORIC telecast can be seen worldwide over the internet as a video
stream over the internet at http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp

C-SPAN at *06:10 PM EDT*
1:50 (est.) Forum
September 11th Terrorist Attacks
Alex Jones Productions
Alex Jones, rtd. Air Force Lt. Colonel Dr. Robert Bowman, BYU Physics
professor Dr. Steven Jones, James H. Fetzer , Scholars for 9/11 Truth

At below link, click on the:
American Perspectives: Sept. 11, V.P. Cheney, & Congress (07/29/2006) to
watch this C-SPAN coverage. If there is a problem watching it from the
C-SPAN site, another link is below of video coverage of the same event.

http://tinyurl.com/jl65q

VIDEO COVERAGE OF THE 9/11 INSIDE JOB EVENT C-SPAN COVERED:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5004704309041471296&q=alex+symposium

ALSO, if you've yet to see the "LOOSE CHANGE" DOCUMENTARY - which is covered
in a four-page article in "VANITY FAIR MAGAZINE"s AUGUST 2006 ISSUE:

View the FREE ONLINE VIDEO DOCUMENTARY that raises many important issues
regarding 9/11, by visiting:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=94448691996878155&q=9%2F11+loose+change+2nd+edition

70 MILLION AMERICANS NOW WANT AN INVESTIGATIONS OF POSSIBLE US GOVT.
COMPLICITY IN THE ATTACKS OF SEPTEMBER, 11, 2001. (Zogby poll)
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060522022041421

PLEASE FORM AN INTERNATIONAL TRIBUNAL TO INVESTIGATE THE EVENTS OF
9/11/2001, THAT HAVE LED OUR WORLD INTO WAR.

======================================
UNITED NATIONS MISSIONS OF ENTIRE WORLD:
albania@un.int, algeria@un.int, andorra@un.int, agoun@undp.org,
antigua@un.int, argentina@un.int, armenia@un.int, australia@un.int,
austria@un.int, azerbaijan@un.int, bhsun@undp.org, bahrain@un.int,
bangladesh@un.int, barbados@un.int, belarus@un.int, belgium@un.int,
belize@un.int, benin@un.int, bhutan@un.int, bolivia@un.int, bosnia@un.int,
botswana@un.int, braun@delbrasonu.org, brnun@undp.org, bulgaria@un.int,
burkinafaso@un.int, burundi@un.int, cambodia@un.int, cmrun@undp.org,
canada@un.int, cpvun@undp.org, caf@un.int, chad@un.int, chile@un.int,
chnun@undp.org, columbia@un.int, comun@undp.org, congo@un.int,
costarica@un.int, ivorycoast@un.int, croatia@un.int, cuba@un.int,
cyprus@un.int, czechrepublic@un.int, drcongo@un.int, denmark@un.int,
djibouti@nyct.net, dominica@un.int, dr@un.int, ecuador@un.int, egypt@un.int,
elsalvador@un.int, guinea@un.int, eritrea@un.int, estonia@un.int,
ethiopia@un.int, fiji@un.int, finland@un.int, france@un.int, gabon@un.int,
gambia@un.int, georgia@un.int, germany@un.int, ghana@un.int, greece@un.int,
grenada@un.int, guatemala@un.int, guinea@un.int, guinea-bissau@un.int,
guyana@un.int, haiti@un.int, honduras@un.int, hungary@un.int,
islun@undp.org, india@un.int, indonesia@un.int, iraq@un.int, ireland@un.int,
israel.un@israelfm.org, italy@un.int, jamaica@un.int, japan@un.int,
jordan@un.int, kazakhstan@un.int, kenya@un.int, dprk@un.int, korea@un.int,
kuwait@un.int, kyrgyzstan@un.int, laos@un.int, lvaun@undp.org,
lebanon@un.int, lesotho@un.int, liberia@un.int, libya@un.int,
liechtenstein@un.int, lithuania@un.int, luxembourg@un.int, macedonia@un.int,
madagascar@un.int, malawi@un.int, malaysia@un.int, maldives@un.int,
mali@un.int, malta@un.int, marshallislands@un.int, mauritania@un.int,
mauritius@un.int, mexico@un.int, micronesia@un.int, moldova@un.int,
monaco@un.int, mongolia@un.int, morocco@un.int, mozambique@un.int,
myanmar@un.int, namibia@un.int, nepal@un.int, netherlands@un.int,
newzealand@un.int, nicaragua@un.int, niger@un.int, nigeria@un.int,
norway@un.int, oman@un.int, pakistan@un.int, palau@un.int, panama@un.int,
png@un.int, paraguay@un.int, peru@un.int, philippines@un.int, poland@un.int,
portugal@un.int, qatar@un.int, romania@un.int, rwanda@un.int, rusun@un.int,
samoa@un.int, sanmarino@un.int, stp@un.int, saudiarabia@un.int,
senegal@un.int, seychelles@un.int, sierraleone@un.int, singapore@un.int,
slovakia@un.int, slovenia@un.int, solomonislands@un.int, somalia@un.int,
southafrica@un.int, spain@un.int, srilanka@un.int, stkn@un.int,
stlucia@un.int, stvg@un.int, sudan@un.int, suriname@un.int,
swaziland@un.int, sweden@un.int, syria@un.int, tajikistan@un.int,
thailand@un.int, togo@un.int, tto@un.int, tunisia@un.int, turkey@un.int,
turkmenistan@un.int, uganda@un.int, ukraine@un.int, uae@un.int,
tanzania@un.int, uk@un.int, usa@un.int, uruguay@un.int, uzbekistan@un.int,
vutun@undp.org, venezuela@un.int, vietnam@un.int, yemen@un.int,
yugoslavia@un.int, zambia@un.int, zimbabwe@un.int, francophonie@un.int,
redcross@un.int, vatun@undp.org, switzerland@un.int, palun@undp.org"
posted by George Washington at 1:14 PM EST


http://www.911blogger.com/2006/07/talk-radio-mass-mobilization.html


Monday, July 31, 2006

TALK RADIO MASS-MOBILIZATION!

(The following activism appeal was sent in by the owner of False Flag News.com [site currently being updated] and enthusiastically endorsed by Webster Tarpley. Tune in to KPFK this afternoon around 12:30pm Pacific time for a live demo.)

Nag the Neocons-Grab the Gatekeepers: Radio Mass Mobilization For The 9-11 Roundtable on C-SPAN TUE 6:10PM EDT

What if you could stop the next false-flag terror attack and the descent into World War III?

On Tuesday August 1, C-SPAN will re-air the 9-11 Roundtable discussion at 6:10 pm EDT. This is an opportunity we cannot squander, because it may be our best opportunity to expose millions of Americans to the truth about September 11 as a new world war approaches. Anyone who likes to be considered a real 9-11 truth activist must flood the radio stations over the next two days with one point in mind: alerting listeners to the 9-11 conference Tuesday at 6:10 PM on C-SPAN.

Call in to neocons like Sean Hannity & Michael Savage, and make them squirm while alerting their millions of listeners. Get on the phone and badger left Air America jockeys like Randi Rhodes and Al Franken who have avoided 9-11 truth for so long. While mentioning the evidence of an inside job is important, the key must be constantly re-stating the August 1, Tueday 6:10 C-SPAN information.

One key tip:

Remember your audience. When calling neocon stations, talk about the evidence pointing to an inside job, but avoid shrill name-calling of Cheney/Bush and instead try phrases like "real conservatives should investigate 9-11, and they can do so Tuesday on C-SPAN at 6:10. This is not a left/right issue."

When calling the lefty shows, you can probably be more open with your rhetoric, but do not forget to keep mentioning the date, time, and network. Repetition is key! (Did we mention C-SPAN, Tuesday at 6:10 PM?)

In both cases, try to stress the scholarly nature of the conference and the credibility of the speakers.

These next two days are not the time for excuses or self-pity. Last night I called in on Drudge's national show and got the word out to hundreds of thousands, while he could only meekly compare me to Oliver Stone. I called WBZ in Boston and forced the neocon host to say "Wow, those are good points." We must overtake the airwaves in the next two days in order to save the lives of those who will be killed in the next false-flag terror operation, and the ensuing global war.

So get off the message boards, and on to your phones! End the defeatism! Reach millions of middle Americans, not just ten of thousands of like-minded activists in the blogosphere. We have a day and a half to get this done. 100 people making 10 calls a day could be the difference between millions waking up to the truth about September 11.

Will you be amongst those 100 who will save the planet? Or will you just sit at your computer waiting for the next false-flag and nuclear Armageddon?

Go pick up the phone! As one person you can alert millions!

(all times Eastern, if you see a mistake, note it in the comments section below)

NEOCON RADIO HOSTS:

9am-12pm Glenn Beck 888-727-BECK

8:30am-1pm Neil Boortz 877-310-2100

8am-11am Laura Ingraham 800-876-4123

10am-1pm G. Gordon Liddy 800-GG-LIDDY

12-3pm Rush Limbaugh 800-282-2882

12-2 Bill O'Reilly 877-9-NO-SPIN

3pm- 6 pm Sean Hannity 800-941-7326

6pm - 9pm Michael Savage 800-449-8255

LEFT RADIO HOSTS:

Amy Goodman/DemocracyNow! 9am-10 am (212) 209-2900 mail@democracynow.org

Mark Riley and Rachel Maddow 5am-9am 1-866-303-2270

Al Franken 12pm-3pm 1-866-303-2270

Randi Rhodes 3pm-7 pm 866-303-2270

Majority Report with Garafalo and Seder 7pm-10pm 1-866-303-2270

Mike Malloy 10pm-1am 1-866-303-2270

Try your favorite local call in show as well! Get creative: try college radio, urban radio, anything where you can reach people. More talk radio networks in major markets can be found here:

http://www.radiotalk.org/newstalk.html

http://www.radiotalk.org/alltalk.html
posted by reprehensor at 1:16 PM EST

http://www.911blogger.com/2006/07/fliers-for-tuesdays-cspan-broadcast.html

Monday, July 31, 2006

Fliers for the Tuesday's CSPAN broadcast

Matt from 9eleven.info was kind enough to send these in. If you want to promote Tuesday night's C-Span broadcast in your community, these are a great way to do so:

1 Page Flyer
2 Page Flyer

These flyers are also available here: 9eleven.info

Also, Cynthia McKinney is on C-Span tonight at 7:30 EDT:
http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp?command=dprogram&record=187963850
posted by somebigguy at 12:48 PM EST

The fliers:





Bet the bastards thought this was all lost to the mists of time, eh?

This proves that there was a deliberate strategy to target the mainstream and anyone else they could can, and also proves the top inventors of 911 conspiracy propaganda were involved.

And it proves even C-Span can be fooled by a well funded propaganda campaign into believing the conspiracy astroturf was a grassroots effort.


It won't end well.

C-SPAN video can be seen here:

http://www.c-span.org/video/?193155-1/september-11th-terrorist-attacks

Apr 27, 2014

Life after "Loose Change"

It's nice to see Avery seems to be free of the "truther" octopus , though he is marked.   I don't know if the author intended this, but the title is a clue to the phoniness of the movement Avery and company were seduced into fronting.  No one rises that fast to fame on very few credentials or history without a backing interest.  And that interest may not have your best interests:

 https://www.vocativ.com/usa/us-politics/rapid-rise-fall-dylan-avery/
The Rapid Rise and Fall of Dylan Avery

With his 9/11 conspiracy doc "Loose Change," director Dylan Avery became an Internet sensation and a leader of a movement. Then the film grew into a monster that nearly ruined his life
 Highlights:
At 30 years old, Avery is still dealing with the aftershocks of his movie, which he released in December 2005 when he was just 21. In a matter of months, Loose Change had been viewed on the Internet more than 10 million times, by 20,000 people per day (All before YouTube was a household name). Suddenly, Avery became a youth icon and a kind of national celebrity, galvanizing the 9/11 Truth Movement—those who fervently believed the Sept. 11 attacks were coordinated by the U.S. government.
He was referred to as “a real hero” and earned praise from renowned artists like director David Lynch, who said of the film: “It’s not so much what they say, it’s the things that make you look at what you thought you saw in a different light.”
...
Even now, the second edition’s appeal is obvious. The presentation is rough and edgy, a compilation of stitched-together images culled from raw TV news coverage of 9/11, set against a backdrop of hypnotic hip-hop beats. For 80 minutes, Avery, in his distinctly skeptical post-adolescent voice—the sound of youthful arrogance—directs the viewer’s attention to suspicious activity, basically saying what to think.
Early on, for instance, there is a picture from the Department of Justice’s terrorism manual, released in 2000, that shows the World Trade Center set in crosshairs. Soon afterward, a sentence from “Rebuilding America’s Defenses,” a 90-page report published that same year by a neoconservative think tank, pops up on the screen: “The process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor.” (The quote’s context, describing a timetable for a technological makeover of the military, is conveniently left out of the narrative.)
Bold mine.  This was one of the many dishonest  and deceptive pieces of propaganda and Avery didn't start it.  He just fell for it.

Avery then points out that Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld are among the report’s authors, the setup for a key assertion that comes later in the film: The twin towers, made of steel, could not have been brought down solely by airliners, since steel melts at 2,750 degrees while jet fuel burns up at 1,500. We watch grainy footage of the structures collapsing, the nature of the destruction apparently consistent with that of a controlled demolition. Taken together, the sequence is enormously effective (though debunkers were quick to point out that steel loses half its strength at 1,200 degrees, enough to have brought down the towers).
So much for termites, er, thermite.

 “It came out when the 9/11 Truth Movement was at its peak,” says Jonathan Kay, author of Among the Truthers. “All this new technology was available. At the time, people were not used to grassroots activists making high-quality video propaganda. People assumed that if it had high production values, it was something to take seriously.
Kay, dense or oblivious about other connections in the "truth" movement, makes a very good point here that can be expanded into all sorts of promotions: T-shirts, webdesign, signage, etc.   It used to take a significant investment of resources and skills to create and print logos.  Now branding can be virtually instant and distinguishing a legitimate grassroots organization from conspiracy astroturf is almost impossible based on  production values alone.  [One of the more pathetic attempts to appear grassroots that's still used is crude signage in black felt or tape.  In the post digital world it just looks strange.]  
When the boys were 17, Rowe dropped out of high school and eventually enlisted in the Army, while Avery applied to film school, at SUNY Oneonta, but didn’t get in. After he graduated, in 2002, he took a job doing local construction and began to sketch out a screenplay. It was a fantastical caper about a couple of boys who, sensing something nefarious, decide to investigate 9/11, unearthing a vast conspiracy and becoming heroes in the process. “It was fun,” Avery explains. “About kids fucking shit up. The original script ended with a rally on the White House lawn, and then I think we all fake our own deaths.”
The plan was to splice the fictional story with real-life news footage, but then it turned into a documentary. “It was kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy,” he admits. “The feature script definitely paved the way for what was about to come.”
Hindsight being 20/20 it could also have been a flag for the psychological yearnings behind the fiction, yearnings that could be played.   

The next two years were a whirlwind. The boys toured the country, screening their film and attending Truth conferences, where they were the stars. They were courted by Alex Jones, the rabid conservative conspiracy theorist and radio host who, among other things, believes the MSG found in juice boxes and kettle chips is part of a “chemical warfare operation” to spread homosexuality. He was at the forefront of the Truth Movement and rubbed shoulders with celebrities like Charlie Sheen, who was a Truther himself and a big fan of Loose Change. In early fall 2006, Jones facilitated an introduction between Sheen and the boys, suggesting the actor might narrate the next version of the movie, which would, with his cache, lead to a theatrical release.
From here the rest is a foregone conclusion:  the rise, the heady feeling of self importance inflated by ego flattering "minders",   the attempts at manipulation, some successful, some not:

 Avery was tired and beginning to grow wary of both the Truth Movement and his place in it. “There were anti-Semites saying the Israeli intelligence agency pulled off 9/11,” he says. “They wanted me to put that stuff in my films.” In a bizarre twist, some in the movement accused him of working for the government, conducting a disinformation campaign to discredit Truthers.

This is one of the many signs Avery and others were drawn into a complex political fraud instigated by Holocaust deniers and White Power organizers.  that and the perennial lie there are "agents" in the movement.

Others, who disagreed with his ideas, berated him on a popular blog called Screw Loose Change, where commenters regularly said things like, “Jeez, fucking Hitler must be proud of Dylan.”

Ironically Screw Loose Change was one of the worst enablers of the "truther" fraud.  By refusing to distinguish between people inventing the theories and the people conned by them, they validated the con.  Calling everyone scammed by the "truth" movement a Nazi is not helpful and appears to confirm the false idea of "agents" spreading "disinfo".

Loose Change happened because I wanted to make a film,” he said. “It was born out of the passion of wanting to be a filmmaker. And then Loose Change took over my life, and it’s almost like filmmaking is completely out of the question.”
 ...

Yet he’s excited about his new film, Black and Blue, especially because it’s grounded in fact-based stories, not theories, about people who have been abused by the police. And though questions still linger about 9/11, such as why, on Sept. 6, 2001, the daily average for put-options on United Airlines stock quadrupled, he no longer tortures himself with speculation. “In my truly angry times, in 2005 or 2006, if you asked if the Bush administration planned the attacks, I would have said, ‘Fuck yeah’.”
But now?
“I don’t think Bush could plan a bowl of cereal,” he says.
 ...

 Avery is silent for a moment. “It’s a dark, dangerous world, the world of conspiracy. You make a commitment and either stick with it to the very end, or you don’t. It’s easy to get sucked in, and really hard to get sucked back out.”
 I don't know.  The minute I knew a network of racist con artists were behind all the major "truther" talking points, it was really easy for me.

.....

My biggest criticism of the interview is  Vocative itself, a relatively new media outlet.  It's great Dylan is coming forth with his story, but try to chose a media platform with a history, like Huffo or Salon.  No offense to "vocative", but it's only a year old:
Vocativ is an online news website founded by Mati Kochavi.[2] The site publishes trending worldwide stories and highly-produced, documentary-style videos for broadcast online and on television. Vocativ was launched in 2013 by Mati Kochavi. Vocativ has a team of about 80 news editors, writers and producers from publications like the New York Times, CNN and Reuters.[3][4] Vocativ utilizes "Deep-web" technology to publish news articles. Kochavi is an entrepreneur owning a security firm AGT International and 3i-MIND, a data-mining outlet.[5] In February, 2014, Vocativ announced a partnership with the NBCUniversal News Group to produce short video segments and prime time hours for the MSNBC cable network and other NBCUNG platforms. The New York Times reported that the chief executive of talent agency William Morris Endeavor, Ari Emmanuel, had taken a personal interest in Vocativ and that his company was negotiating for an equity stake.[6]
Those who have broken free of the "truth" movement need to be on guard against unconsciously falling into old patterns. This has the marks of Avery shunning the "mainstream media".  If he thought about it a moment, the mainstream media wasn't responsible for most of the attacks; it was cowboy bloggers operating off deceptive information, usually obtained from con artists and social engineers.  And while MSM is not undeserving of criticism, they are far and away more responsible than cowboy bloggers with an ax to grind against the left.

Good luck, Dylan.


Apr 20, 2014

Stormfront, Obama and Murder

A couple days before Hitler's birthday the Guardian reported on the Southern Poverty Law Center study linking the highest profile Nazi website to hate killings.  This hardly came as a surprise:

More than 100 hate-crime murders linked to single website, report finds
• Southern Poverty Law Center singles out Stormfront.org
• Report says users disproportionately linked to major killings

People charged with the murders of almost 100 people can be linked to a single far-right website, according to a new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).

The White Nationalist web forum Stormfront.org says it promotes values of “the embattled white minority,” and its users include Anders Behring Breivik, who killed 77 people in a 2011 massacre in Norway, and Wade Michael Page, who shot and killed six people at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin in 2012.
After a two-year investigation, the SPLC said (pdf) that since Stormfront became one of the first hate sites on the internet in 1995, its registered users have been disproportionately responsible for major killings. The report was released a month early after white supremacist Frazier Glenn Miller, also known as Frazier Glenn Cross, was accused of killing three people at a Jewish center in Kansas City on Sunday.
“We know that the people who are going to commit the kinds of crimes, like the kinds of crimes Miller committed last weekend, this is where they live,” said Heidi Beirich, report author and a director at the SPLC’s Intelligence Project. The report, released on Thursday, calls Stormfront the “largest hate site in the world” and “a magnet and breeding ground for the deadly and deranged.”
Of the site’s more than 286,000 users, only a small sliver are highly active, the report found, with fewer than 1,800 people logging in each day. While the SPLC only identified 10 murderers out of this large user base, researchers think the murderers’ connection to the site is important because it shows how the website offers a community for people who commit these crimes.

“It’s pretty clear that websites like Stormfront are breeding grounds for people who are just enraged at their situation, it’s there that people find the reasons their lives aren’t as they had hoped and Stormfront helps them find the enemy that is standing in their way – whether it be Jews, African Americans, immigrants and so on,” said Beirich. “Unfortunately it’s not very surprising that people who live in this kind of stew of violent racism eventually pick up a gun and do something about it at some point.”

Stormfront proudly declares that “every month is white history month” at the top of its site and forum discussions concern things such as the latest news stories, ideology, poetry and creative writing.
“The fact of the matter is that more people have been killed domestically by radical right extremists than Islamic extremists since 9/11 and where you find a lot of these people is on these sites,” said Beirich.
SPLC also identified 10 characteristics shared by killers who were active online including unemployment, posting on more than one hate website, and sustained activity on these sites.
Stormfront founder Don Black, a former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, criticized Miller for giving users of his site a bad reputation. “We have enough of a problem with how we are portrayed without some homicidal whack job coming along and reinforcing that,” Black told the Daily Beast. After he was banned from Stormfront, the SLPC said Miller posted more than 12,000 times on a similar forum, Vanguard News Network, whose slogan is “No Jews, Just Right.”

The SPLC’s report said hate killings skyrocketed after Barack Obama was inaugurated in 2009.
“We have seen and documented at the SPLC an enormous growth of groups on the radical right, particularly in the last five years,” said Mark Potok, the report’s editor and a senior fellow on the Intelligence Project. “That growth quite clearly seems to be driven by the appearance of Barack Obama on the political scene in the fall of 2008 and of course his subsequent election.”
Potok noted that these hate sites are protected by first amendment rights because they don’t contain concrete plots to commit crimes. He said that law enforcement official unquestionably pay attention to these sites, but criticized how much analysis is done on users by federal authorities.

“We feel pretty strongly that the Department of Homeland Security, which is the lead agency in this country for developing intelligence about these groups and individuals, has more or less taken its eye of the ball in the sense that since 2009 the department seems more focused on Jihadists terrorism,” Potok said.
 Bold mine.   The radical right was mobilizing from day one of Obama's election, because , you know, he's BLACK.   You'd think the collapse of civilization was immanent.  Two memes were fast tracked and spread heavily in the "truther" communities:    Joker Obama, a repurposed joker Bush, and Obama Hitler.

One of the first places to report Joker Obama is a website devoted to battling "liberal bias":

Obama Joker Poster Popping Up In Los Angeles

 Have you seen this poster?
Apparently, it's beginning to appear in odd places in Los Angeles, but nobody seems to know who's responsible for it.

Radio host Tammy Bruce posted some pictures of this odd creation at her blog Saturday morning (h/t Pamela Geller) leading me to investigate further.
At this point, all I could find on the subject was an April 25 article from Bedlam Magazine:

 A poster of Barack Obama in Heath Ledger-style Joker make-up with the legend 'Socialism' beneath it has been popping up recently on surfaces around L.A. It does not appear to be in the same category as the many benign take-offs on the Shepard Fairey 'Hope' poster, such as the one by Australian James Lillis (more of a straightforward spoof that merely substituted a Shepardized image of Heath Ledger as Joker on the Obama poster). 
 Here are Tammy's snaps:


 Makes you wonder who's behind this.

It's not difficult to figure out.  Though I expect Sheppard is angling for something more specific than the "hide the white women" crowd.[Wikipedia attributes this image to Firas Alkhateeb. Only later would "socialism" be added. Previous version are by Ross Brummet  and a couple college Republicans. ]

A couple days later the same blogger would opine about a double standard:

Not surprisingly, the Obama Joker Poster reported by NewsBusters Saturday is already drawing some outrage.
According to a television station where the posters have been spotted, "Los Angeles Urban Policy Roundtable President Earl Ofari Hutchinson is calling the depiction, politically mean spirited and dangerous."
Yet, when Vanity Fair's Politics & Power blog published a somewhat similar visual representation of George W. Bush last July, nobody seemed to complain. In fact, throughout the Bush years, demeaning drawings of the President and Vice President Dick Cheney were quite commonplace.
 And:
 Hmmm. I wonder where the Los Angeles Urban Policy Roundtable was when Vanity Fair published this last July:


And where was the outrage when the Village Voice published this on the cover of its October 26, 2004, issue:


Like many conservatives  Sheppard misses the point.  Unfortunately he doesn't provide links for context, but at a wild ass guess the Bush images were a commentary on Bushes policies, and the fact, let's face it:  as  president Bush was a joke.

The Obama Joker is more offensive not just because of the undertones of racism, but the outright lie he's a socialist.  There is a difference between criticizing someone for something they actually are vs. making up shite to support reactionary paranoia.   This is a false equivalency.  Mind, it's possible Sheppard isn't even aware of this, perhaps believing organized political racism no longer exists.  The SPLC's report pretty much demolishes that idea.

While these were popular with the KKK friendly crowd, they didn't invent them.   And Obama Hitler comes directly from the marketing department of the Larouche cult:



These are relevant to this blog because the more blatant racist "truthers" and libertarian crowd around them were pushing the Obama joker meme from word go.  In fact "Infowars" had a campaign to push the meme, and much like Paultards, was able to mobilize the fringe base to make it a reality:


 http://www.infowars.com/joker-obama-posters-to-go-viral/

‘JOKER’ Obama Posters to go viral
Infowars
August 5, 2009
DON’T ALLOW POLITICALLY CORRECT OBAMANOIDS TO STOP FREE SPEECH & POLITICAL DISSENT.
POST THESE EVERYWHERE YOU CAN IN YOUR AREA AND ONLINE

Note: Obama Joker posters should be posted in public commons where other fliers, public announcements, handbills, etc., are posted. Please do not post on federal or private property as this will be considered vandalism and will be counterproductive and diminish the message of the Obama Joker poster.

This was four days after the NewsBusters report.  The posters in Tammy's pics were probably part of a campaign in progress Alex Jones almost certainly was aware of. 

Invented, reporposed or coopted, the anti-Obama memes were a great moral boost to racist fringe culture.  A picture doesn't make anyone kill and I certainly don't think it should be banned.  But it's not too much to expect the agencies that should be tracking these things to use this as a flag to follow the trend. It comes as no surprise that Stormfront.org was a hotbed for discussion around the Obama Joker: Google search

What is a surprise is the link to the first News Busters article about the poster the same day it was published:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t626350/

Calling into question exactly how unaware NewBusters was of the origins if a faithful reader picked it up so soon.  Posted by  a self described Libertarian:

Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Christian, Free-market Libertarian
The subject clearly has support, wandering into the delusional:

Spread as many as such posters as possible on the most busy places, if enough people see through the deception they fall.
Oookaaaaay.  LA is still standing.  Guess the poster brigade didn't put up enough.


Meanwhile the people sucked into conspiracy culture and particularly the "truth" movement would do well to shun memes of racist origin.  Better yet, shun the entire culture before being labeled a race traitor and targeted by violent nuts.

One last thought: could the embrace of Obama joker in  9/11 "truth" been the death knell of the fake "leftist" truther groups?   People pushing "truth" were always a pale faced bunch.  Only in the very early days was there even a smattering of dark-ish complected truthers.  This would be paralleled in the Tea party, and much like the Tea Party, is a sign someone, somewhere is LYING about the origins and goals of the "movement".  Except in the "truth" movement the lie was more believable because the anti war left was very critical of Bush's handling of 9/11.  What Black Tea Partiers were thinking I don't know: the anti black racism of the Tea Party was far, far more obvious on the street than the anti-Jew "truthers".

 In any case, the Obama Joker was actively pushed by "truthers" in mid 2009.  I remember seeing it and being neither offended nor impressed.  I don't remember seeing the socialism tag though.  Had I known it's origins, I would have been much less impressed.  I do remember a spin off of the meme, Hopenosis, which I thought was forced and idiotic. This was offensive because it mocked people's quite understandable desire for economic relief after the Bush years. Mocking a public figure is one thing; having a go at people while they're down is mean spirited. Perhaps if it had been coupled with thoughtful criticism it would have been different.  But I did feel the aversive effects of Hope-nosis.  Like Obama Joker it signaled the end of any attempts to woo the left into 9/11 "truth" and the complete abandonment of any leftist "truther" fronts.


Jan 18, 2014

Revleft: A real anarchist's perspective on the 9/11 "Truth" Movement

This isn't 100% correct, but very close, and much closer than many so called "debunkers" have come.  They get the tactic of wooing the left with deceptive propaganda correct(highlighted in red). They're less informed on the exact source from the far right and it's top players.  But then neither was I at one time. Alex Jones and David Icke are players, but they're more of the profit mongering/sell DVD's get rich scammers. It's the Larouche/Ron Paul/Libertarian/Racist Militant/Tea Party who drove the "truth" machine as a political vehicle. 

Still, very good insights.

Also an indirect clue the so called "anarchists" pushing 911 Truth at the time were phoneys;  one of their associates is registered at this board, and no one, I do mean not one of the con-artists, has ever referred to this article, not even in a " Hey guys! look at this disinfo!"  way.

Perhaps an indication they would prefer the idea the "Truth" movement is a con not to get any play.....

Good luck with that.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/whole-9-11-t70635/index.html
The whole 9/11 truth movement

14th February 2008, 22:45


I posted this on another board and I think it's a good read for here. This is basically me showing what the true plans of the whole 9/11 truth movement is about and the trick they're trying to play on people. I think it's a good analysis and the next time we get people here saying "OMG look at building 7" or anything of the type, this could be a good response, especially for those people who believe in these conspiracy theories and who have left-leaning thinking.
Plus when one does research on the movement and it's leaders, one sees that this is a trick by the ultra-right free-market libertarians to try to trick people (who otherwise wouldn't) into supporting their cause.
I'll explain.

The leaders of these 9/11 truth movements themselves are also believers of something they call the "NWO" or the "New World Order", and they're not talking about a new world order in a metaphoric sense, but they're talking about it in a literal sense. They literally believe that a powerful secret group has been planning (for over 100 year according to them) to take over the world and that, "both the U.S. and Soviet governments are controlled by the same furtive conspiratorial cabal of internationalists, greedy bankers, and corrupt politicians. If left unexposed, the traitors inside the U.S. government would betray the country's sovereignty to the United Nations for a collectivist New World Order managed by a 'one-world socialist government." That quote is by Robert Welch Jr., the founder of the John Birch Society (a far-right conservative group who started these conspiracy theories, I'll get back to them later).

These people honestly believe that there is a "NWO" that will make a one world government and that it it force collectivism and socialism down our throats. They claim that the U.N. is one of those organizations. They claim that all major figures in world history from Karl Marx to Woodrow Wilson to Hitler to Noam Chomsky are all in on it. Also they believe that black helicopters are flying all over the world right now, planning to implement their plans of world domination (NoamChomsky made fun of these "black helicopters" claim once in a speech I heard on youtube).

All these conspiracy theories come from an old U.S. political organization called the John Birch Society. This organization is a far-right free-market libertarian organization. They've hated all the U.S. presidents (both Democrats and Republicans), considering them all part of the "NWO" conspiracy. Many of the people from this portion of the right wing is not even liked very much by the ruling class. These people sort of knew that it would be very hard to get the people of the United States of America to believe them in their causes. In the 90's, they had the support of the right-wing militia movements of the "angry white men" but other than that, they could get no more support. Nor did the far-right people in general get the support they have hoped for. Then 9/11 happened.

Being consistent, they pushed the claims that Bush and company where behind 9/11. These far right people where against the "war on terror" from the beginning and they've been against most wars of the past but not for the humanitarian reason, but because wars force the state to spend more and increase and that they believe their "NWO" conspiracies.

A good portion of the people in the U.S. were against the war and against all the mayhem Bush was creating. This is when the whole "Bush did 9/11" thing started getting popular. These far-right free-market libertarians pushed the whole "Bush did 9/11" and they pushed for an end of all U.S. foreign intervention. The far-right started to ride the wave of legit anti-Bush sentiments, pushing only the points that "Bush was behind 9/11" and that "all the wars should end". BUT THEY NEVER TALK ABOUT THEIR ALTERNATIVES (which is what Chomsky pointed out), WHICH ARE FREE-MARKETS, AND VERY ANTI-LABOR AND MANY TIMES, ANTI-SEMITIC. These same people who lead and are behind the 9/11 movements are so far-right that the current ruling class thinks they're a joke. Lets take a look at some of these people:

Alex Jones: He's probably the leader in this whole 9/11 movement. This guy is a free market pusher. He hates Bush, but he's from the right of Bush (scary no??). He has pushed this "NWO" theory. He claims Communism, Socialism and Anarchism are just conspiracies, funded by wall street to create chaos so that the conditions can occur for the "NWO" to take over. He interviewed Noam Chomsky once and after the interview, Jones (like a coward, not being able to say it to Chomsky's face) called Chomsky an "NWO shill" (meaning that Chomsky is supposedly a part of the "NWO"). I think we all know how ridiclous that sounds.

David Icke: This is a big name in the 9/11 truth movement. He claims that the VERY anti-semitic writing, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, reveals a plan for the "NWO" to rule the world. This is very anti-semitic. He claims that every important world leaders in history were and are reptilian humanoids (aliens). According to him, every big world leader is a reptile alien, from Britain's late Queen Mother to George H.W. Bush, Hillary Clinton, Harold Wilson, and Tony Blair. He's had a history with the white militias of the 90's.

Robert M. Bowman: He was a former Director of Advanced Space Programs Development for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, and a former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel. He has pushed that Bush was behind 9/11. He was also campaigned nationwide for the nomination of the Reform Party of the United States of America for President of the United States. This is the same party that had the ethnocentric Pat Buchanan as their candidate.

Steven E. Jones: This is the famous physics professor that has helped fueled the whole WTC 7 thing. He actually supported George W. Bush before 9/11 and he has had a history with the republican party.

Morgan Reynolds: He was the chief economist for the United States Department of Labor during 2001–2002, George W. Bush's first term. He has also been big in the 9/11 movement. Before the 9/11 truth thing, he claimed that labor unions exacerbates unemployment and inflation. He has been HUGE in anti-labor thinking, blaming unions for everything. He hates labor regulation, and he has pushed the U.S. to move to a completely free-market and to reject labor movements.

Notice how these leaders of the 9/11 movement are mainly far-right free-market lovers and what they're doing is they're riding the anti-Bush sentiments to try to gain power so that they can establish their far-right domestic policies (free-markets, anti-labor laws, "states-rights", etc) behind people's backs. These 9/11 leaders don't want to talk about their alternatives, because such alternatives are not what poor and working people would support.

It looks like the trick is working. Many people with left-leanings are falling for joining and supporting this whole truth movement. This is why Ron Paul became so popular over the internet, gaining support from people with left-leaning politics. This movement only wants to sneak in their free-market, small government, anti-labor policies and they use such things (anti-Bush feelings, 9/11, anti-war, etc) to gain support from factions they wouldn't otherwise get.

"It looks like the trick is working. Many people with left-leanings are falling for joining and supporting this whole truth movement"

Well, it worked for a while.  Then it stopped working. 

Better late than never.