Stormfront, Obama and Murder

A couple days before Hitler's birthday the Guardian reported on the Southern Poverty Law Center study linking the highest profile Nazi website to hate killings.  This hardly came as a surprise:

More than 100 hate-crime murders linked to single website, report finds

• Southern Poverty Law Center singles out Stormfront.org
• Report says users disproportionately linked to major killings

• Amanda Holpuch in New York
• theguardian.com, Friday 18 April 2014 08.16 EDT

People charged with the murders of almost 100 people can be linked to a single far-right website, according to a new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).

The White Nationalist web forum Stormfront.org says it promotes values of “the embattled white minority,” and its users include Anders Behring Breivik, who killed 77 people in a 2011 massacre in Norway, and Wade Michael Page, who shot and killed six people at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin in 2012.
After a two-year investigation, the SPLC said (pdf) that since Stormfront became one of the first hate sites on the internet in 1995, its registered users have been disproportionately responsible for major killings. The report was released a month early after white supremacist Frazier Glenn Miller, also known as Frazier Glenn Cross, was accused of killing three people at a Jewish center in Kansas City on Sunday.
“We know that the people who are going to commit the kinds of crimes, like the kinds of crimes Miller committed last weekend, this is where they live,” said Heidi Beirich, report author and a director at the SPLC’s Intelligence Project. The report, released on Thursday, calls Stormfront the “largest hate site in the world” and “a magnet and breeding ground for the deadly and deranged.”
Of the site’s more than 286,000 users, only a small sliver are highly active, the report found, with fewer than 1,800 people logging in each day. While the SPLC only identified 10 murderers out of this large user base, researchers think the murderers’ connection to the site is important because it shows how the website offers a community for people who commit these crimes.

“It’s pretty clear that websites like Stormfront are breeding grounds for people who are just enraged at their situation, it’s there that people find the reasons their lives aren’t as they had hoped and Stormfront helps them find the enemy that is standing in their way – whether it be Jews, African Americans, immigrants and so on,” said Beirich. “Unfortunately it’s not very surprising that people who live in this kind of stew of violent racism eventually pick up a gun and do something about it at some point.”

Stormfront proudly declares that “every month is white history month” at the top of its site and forum discussions concern things such as the latest news stories, ideology, poetry and creative writing.

“The fact of the matter is that more people have been killed domestically by radical right extremists than Islamic extremists since 9/11 and where you find a lot of these people is on these sites,” said Beirich.

SPLC also identified 10 characteristics shared by killers who were active online including unemployment, posting on more than one hate website, and sustained activity on these sites.

Stormfront founder Don Black, a former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, criticized Miller for giving users of his site a bad reputation. “We have enough of a problem with how we are portrayed without some homicidal whack job coming along and reinforcing that,” Black told the Daily Beast. After he was banned from Stormfront, the SLPC said Miller posted more than 12,000 times on a similar forum, Vanguard News Network, whose slogan is “No Jews, Just Right.”

The SPLC’s report said hate killings skyrocketed after Barack Obama was inaugurated in 2009.
“We have seen and documented at the SPLC an enormous growth of groups on the radical right, particularly in the last five years,” said Mark Potok, the report’s editor and a senior fellow on the Intelligence Project. “That growth quite clearly seems to be driven by the appearance of Barack Obama on the political scene in the fall of 2008 and of course his subsequent election.”

Potok noted that these hate sites are protected by first amendment rights because they don’t contain concrete plots to commit crimes. He said that law enforcement official unquestionably pay attention to these sites, but criticized how much analysis is done on users by federal authorities.

“We feel pretty strongly that the Department of Homeland Security, which is the lead agency in this country for developing intelligence about these groups and individuals, has more or less taken its eye of the ball in the sense that since 2009 the department seems more focused on Jihadists terrorism,” Potok said.

 Bold mine.   The radical right was mobilizing from day one of Obama's election, because , you know, he's BLACK.   You'd think the collapse of civilization was immanent.  Two memes were fast tracked and spread heavily in the "truther" communities:    Joker Obama, a repurposed joker Bush, and Obama Hitler.

One of the first places to report Joker Obama is a website devoted to battling "liberal bias":

Obama Joker Poster Popping Up In Los Angeles

By Noel Sheppard | August 1, 2009 | 20:06

 Have you seen this poster?
Apparently, it's beginning to appear in odd places in Los Angeles, but nobody seems to know who's responsible for it.

Radio host Tammy Bruce posted some pictures of this odd creation at her blog Saturday morning (h/t Pamela Geller) leading me to investigate further.
At this point, all I could find on the subject was an April 25 article from Bedlam Magazine:

 A poster of Barack Obama in Heath Ledger-style Joker make-up with the legend 'Socialism' beneath it has been popping up recently on surfaces around L.A. It does not appear to be in the same category as the many benign take-offs on the Shepard Fairey 'Hope' poster, such as the one by Australian James Lillis (more of a straightforward spoof that merely substituted a Shepardized image of Heath Ledger as Joker on the Obama poster). 

 Here are Tammy's snaps:

 Makes you wonder who's behind this.

It's not difficult to figure out.  Though I expect Sheppard is angling for something more specific than the "hide the white women" crowd.[Wikipedia attributes this image to Firas Alkhateeb. Only later would "socialism" be added. Previous version are by Ross Brummet  and a couple college Republicans. ]

A couple days later the same blogger would opine about a double standard:

Not surprisingly, the Obama Joker Poster reported by NewsBusters Saturday is already drawing some outrage.
According to a television station where the posters have been spotted, "Los Angeles Urban Policy Roundtable President Earl Ofari Hutchinson is calling the depiction, politically mean spirited and dangerous."
Yet, when Vanity Fair's Politics & Power blog published a somewhat similar visual representation of George W. Bush last July, nobody seemed to complain. In fact, throughout the Bush years, demeaning drawings of the President and Vice President Dick Cheney were quite commonplace.

 And:

 Hmmm. I wonder where the Los Angeles Urban Policy Roundtable was when Vanity Fair published this last July:

And where was the outrage when the Village Voice published this on the cover of its October 26, 2004, issue:

Like many conservatives  Sheppard misses the point.  Unfortunately he doesn't provide links for context, but at a wild ass guess the Bush images were a commentary on Bushes policies, and the fact, let's face it:  as  president Bush was a joke.

The Obama Joker is more offensive not just because of the undertones of racism, but the outright lie he's a socialist.  There is a difference between criticizing someone for something they actually are vs. making up shite to support reactionary paranoia.   This is a false equivalency.  Mind, it's possible Sheppard isn't even aware of this, perhaps believing organized political racism no longer exists.  The SPLC's report pretty much demolishes that idea.

While these were popular with the KKK friendly crowd, they didn't invent them.   And Obama Hitler comes directly from the marketing department of the Larouche cult:

These are relevant to this blog because the more blatant racist "truthers" and libertarian crowd around them were pushing the Obama joker meme from word go.  In fact "Infowars" had a campaign to push the meme, and much like Paultards, was able to mobilize the fringe base to make it a reality:


 http://www.infowars.com/joker-obama-posters-to-go-viral/

‘JOKER’ Obama Posters to go viral

Infowars
August 5, 2009

DON’T ALLOW POLITICALLY CORRECT OBAMANOIDS TO STOP FREE SPEECH & POLITICAL DISSENT.
POST THESE EVERYWHERE YOU CAN IN YOUR AREA AND ONLINE

Note: Obama Joker posters should be posted in public commons where other fliers, public announcements, handbills, etc., are posted. Please do not post on federal or private property as this will be considered vandalism and will be counterproductive and diminish the message of the Obama Joker poster.

This was four days after the NewsBusters report.  The posters in Tammy's pics were probably part of a campaign in progress Alex Jones almost certainly was aware of. 

Invented, reporposed or coopted, the anti-Obama memes were a great moral boost to racist fringe culture.  A picture doesn't make anyone kill and I certainly don't think it should be banned.  But it's not too much to expect the agencies that should be tracking these things to use this as a flag to follow the trend. It comes as no surprise that Stormfront.org was a hotbed for discussion around the Obama Joker: Google search

What is a surprise is the link to the first News Busters article about the poster the same day it was published:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t626350/

Calling into question exactly how unaware NewBusters was of the origins if a faithful reader picked it up so soon.  Posted by  a self described Libertarian:

salvete amici

Forum Member

Join Date: Oct 2005

Location: Christian, Free-market Libertarian

The subject clearly has support, wandering into the delusional:

Spread as many as such posters as possible on the most busy places, if enough people see through the deception they fall.

Oookaaaaay.  LA is still standing.  Guess the poster brigade didn't put up enough.


Meanwhile the people sucked into conspiracy culture and particularly the "truth" movement would do well to shun memes of racist origin.  Better yet, shun the entire culture before being labeled a race traitor and targeted by violent nuts.

One last thought: could the embrace of Obama joker in  9/11 "truth" been the death knell of the fake "leftist" truther groups?   People pushing "truth" were always a pale faced bunch.  Only in the very early days was there even a smattering of dark-ish complected truthers.  This would be paralleled in the Tea party, and much like the Tea Party, is a sign someone, somewhere is LYING about the origins and goals of the "movement".  Except in the "truth" movement the lie was more believable because the anti war left was very critical of Bush's handling of 9/11.  What Black Tea Partiers were thinking I don't know: the anti black racism of the Tea Party was far, far more obvious on the street than the anti-Jew "truthers".

 In any case, the Obama Joker was actively pushed by "truthers" in mid 2009.  I remember seeing it and being neither offended nor impressed.  I don't remember seeing the socialism tag though.  Had I known it's origins, I would have been much less impressed.  I do remember a spin off of the meme, Hopenosis, which I thought was forced and idiotic. This was offensive because it mocked people's quite understandable desire for economic relief after the Bush years. Mocking a public figure is one thing; having a go at people while they're down is mean spirited. Perhaps if it had been coupled with thoughtful criticism it would have been different.  But I did feel the aversive effects of Hope-nosis.  Like Obama Joker it signaled the end of any attempts to woo the left into 9/11 "truth" and the complete abandonment of any leftist "truther" fronts.

911Blogger.com's Orangutan comes out of the "American Free Press" fringe closet

I've gotta work on that title.  Too wordy.

As the years go by, the right wing fringe front DNA becomes more and more obvious at the "truther" website 911blogger.com.   But, up until now, the owners have played face-saving games and disclaimers, no matter what was posted.  This has included some truly despicable shite, of which calling the Sandy Hook shootings fake is the bottom of the barrell.

Well today it isn't just anyone pulling this rubbish.  The website co-owner Orangatan is not only is pushing the "Hooker" scam, but links to the Larouche/Cato/fringe loonie website American Free Press to do so:


http://911blogger.com/news/2013-01-17/why-sandy-hook-massacre-spawned-conspiracy-theories-benjamin-radford-livescience-bad-science-columnist

School Safety Expert Threatened for Questioning Sandy Hook
School safety expert who was invited by the U.S. Department of Justice to train over 3,500 school police officers, superintendents and principals, Wolfgang W. Halbig, threatened by police investigators for questioning Sandy Hook official story.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6roDPt1WYYY

Ex Florida state trooper/investigator on the verge of blowing Sandy Hook wide open after receiving multiple official threats. Incredible information.

Wolfgang W. Halbig doesn't believe anyone was killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, and he's looking for some answers. So many answers, in fact, that he was paid a visit by some police investigators telling him to back off.
Mr. Halbig isn't your average "conspiracy theorist." He's worked in public education as a teacher, dean, assistant principal, principal of an alternative school and as the Director for School Safety and Security for the Seminole County Public Schools, a school district of approximately 65,000 students.
A former Florida State Trooper and United States Customs Inspector, Mr. Halbig was invited by the U.S. Department of Justice to train over 3,500 school police officers, school superintendents and school principals. He travels the country providing presentations and keynotes to a variety of school board associations and conferences and is a nationally-recognized school safety and security expert and consultant, who has provided safety training and school assessments for more than 4,000 school districts nationwide.
Dave Gahary spoke with Wolfgang about why he doesn't believe the official story of the Sandy Hook Elementary School event, in this interesting interview (43:23).
http://americanfreepress.net/?p=15503

Orangutan. on Sat, 02/15/2014 - 9:52am.

 

 "Wolfgang W. Halbig doesn't believe anyone was killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, and he's looking for some answers. So many answers, in fact, that he was paid a visit by some police investigators telling him to back off."

 

Oh please.  There's zero "investigative" work behind this conspiracy.  I can't imagine anyone who is not a Nazi, Closet Nazi, racist sympathizer, etc, linking to the AFP website and it's highlighted garbage where you will learn about:

Jim Tucker's Bilderberg Secrets Revealed!

Rudolf Hess: His Betrayal and Murder

The BarnesReview.com "Real History Like You've Never Seen Before!" [spoiler: it's all the Jew's fault]

The FINAL New World Order

POKER FACE

New World Order Assassins  by Victor Thorn

"Orangutan" just doesn't care who knows he's fronting for the fringe any more and his endorsement of the Sandy Hook "Hoax" nastiness proves it.  The "Hookers" have their roots in anti Semite political garbage.

 

Holocaust denier and "truther" Jim Fetzer was blaming the Sandy Hook shooting on Israel/Mossad/Jews:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_H._Fetzer#Conspiracy_claims

 

Atop backing allegations that the 7/7 London bombings in 2005, the Sandy Hook school shooting in 2012, and the Boston Marathon bombing in 2013 were acts of governments' covert terrorism,^[37][38] he initially suggested for Sandy Hook a role by Israel's Mossad or in any case, via claimed inconsistencies, a governmental stratagem, perhaps to frighten Americans into further gun restrictions.^[39] He later claimed that the Sandy Hook massacre was a sham.^[40]

Jimmy has backed way off of these claims, perhaps realizing his anti-semite colors were showing a bit too brightly, but these urls to his articles prove that's the position he initially took a week after the shootings:

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/12/20/279183/israeli-death-squad-massacred-us-children

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/23/mossad-death-squads-slaughtered-american-children-at-sandy-hook

Of course Fetzer is a known fraud pushing pro Nazi swill.  So is American Free Press who published the article Orangutan linked to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Free_Press

"According to one former correspondent, the newspaper's direct ancestor was the publication The Spotlight,^[1] which ceased publication in 2001 when its parent company, Liberty Lobby, was forced into bankruptcy. Like The Spotlight and Liberty Lobby, Willis Carto, one of America's most influential political racial theorists known for his promotion of antisemitic conspiracy theories and Holocaust denial, was one of its founders."

" The Southern Poverty Law Center considers it a hate group^[10] and claims that it "carries stories on Zionism, secret 'New World Order' conspiracies, American Jews and Israel."^[11] One of the newspaper's ex-contract reporters, Christopher Bollyn, is sometimes cited for his reporting in the 9/11 Truth Movement. The Anti-Defamation League has criticised the newspaper and, in particular, Bollyn for linking of prominent figures in the Jewish community with the events of September 11, 2001, and in September 2006 attacked the newspaper for disseminating "antisemitic propaganda".^[12]
Many contributors such as Mark Dankof^[13] and Mark Glenn are also contributors to Iran's PressTV television station. The website Veterans Today which advocates moderate views towards Iran and Syria also carries content created by AFP.^[14] According to Accuracy in Media, "Press TV spews out unending streams of anti-American propaganda", and refers to Dankof as a Ron Paul supporter who is also a "Press TV propagandist". In a May 2011 article Dankof protested the British government attempting to shut down Press TV, blaming it on "media outlets and correspondents with provable connections to the American Jewish lobby; Israeli intelligence; and Neo-Conservatives thirsting for a War of Civilizations with Iran specifically, and the Islamic world generally.” ^[15] In a May 2011 article, Dankof also quoted from and wrote that the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion accurately reflect the state of the world. He lauded PressTV as one of the few exceptions to the Jewish control of the media.^[16]"

So this is what 911blogger.com's owners and moderators consider a credible information source these days.  And the sites users seem to approve.Nice to know.

Now "Orangutan" can drop the pretence of running an "activist" website dedicated to discovering the "truth" to stop wars.  911blogger has embraced it's identity as a front for fringe radical right racists.  But this situation is instructive, as it shows how the  fringe right will exploit confused leftists to hijack a platform.

Lest we forgot, 911blogger was not always  a right-wing haven.  "Reprehensor" was not a Nazi, soft sell or otherwise.  I think he was duped into da truth like many of us. Then duped into handing the website to psuedo Nazi tossers. 

This isn't the first time this has happened.  As justifiably horrid as reviews of Veteran's Today are, it wasn't always so.  Now they're on the SPLC radar as of 2011.

But archives going back to 2004 show a website that appears to have been honest about it's mission to help veterans.  Not a "Jews Did It" meme in sight:

https://web.archive.org/web/20040928195406/http://www.veteranstoday.com/

If it was a fringe right front then, they were hiding it very well.   The website's focus changed Gordon Duff got involved, around 2006.  It doesn't look like the people running the website knew who he was.  Or like many of us, just couldn't believe he was part of a cynical exploitive anti-semite front group.  By 2009 a 9/11 and Terrorism link was added to the main page, reasonable for a military focused website. But by 2010 they were well on their way reiventeding themselves as the Jew haters paradise we know today:

 https://web.archive.org/web/20100810001049/http://www.veteranstoday.com/

 Israelization of Iraq and Indianization of Afghanistan

ADL Like Israel Throws off Classical Liberal Front in Favor of Rightwing Tyranny

Israeli Hitler Youth


GORDON DUFF: WIKI-LEAKS IS ISRAEL, LIKE WE ALL DIDN’T KNOW

And the conspiracy stuff starts to get tracktion:

A Danish Scientist breaks the 9/11 culture of silence

This is all very educational. 

I know it's hard to believe, but, AFAIK, 911blogger.com was founded and run by left leaning anti war activists from it's inception, until the latest fringe goons took over around 2009-2010.   Keep in mind they spent years cultivating people, earning trust to get in this position.     The fringe right is highly motivated to exploit and take over any medium it can control.  It's much more surprising this worked with Veteran's Today; you'd expect more persons involved to be alert to fraud.  911blogger.com, once owned by someone misguidedly promoting right wing conspiracy theories, was always a target.   It was only a matter of time before it was either assimilated or shut down. 

What this tells us is the fringe right can be very patient if they want to take over something.

But people like me can be equally patient in exposing their scams.

It won't end well.

Redemption Reincarnated: Early fringe scam promoting 911 "Truth" returns?

It sounds like a drug invented by a dystopian author. The reality is infinitely worse:

The redemption movement consists of supporters of an American conspiracy theory.^[1] Redemption theory involves claims that when the U.S. government abandoned the gold standard in 1933, it pledged its citizens as collateral so that it could borrow money. Other theories claim this happened in 1913 with the establishment of the Federal Reserve System. The movement also asserts that common citizens can gain access to funds in secret accounts using obscure procedures and regulations.
According to the theory, the government created a fictitious person (or "straw man") corresponding to each newborn citizen with bank accounts initially holding $630,000. The theory further holds that through obscure procedures under the Uniform Commercial Code, a citizen can "reclaim" the straw man and write checks against its accounts.^[2]
There have been many well-publicized convictions of citizens attempting to take advantage of this theory. The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) regards the instructors and promoters of Redemption schemes as fraudsters^[3] while the Internal Revenue Service has included the "straw man" claim in its list of frivolous positions that may result in the imposition of a $5,000 penalty^[4] when used as the basis for an inaccurate tax return.^[5]

While the Redemption Movement existed before the 9/11 attacks, it was one of the many early platforms to push the "Truth", proving the movement's origins in the fringe radical right:

"Robert Kelly, publisher of The American's Bulletin, covers an array of antigovernment themes even as he pushes redemption in his newspaper's pages. In the last year, Kelly's paper also has been rife with attacks on the IRS (the "Illegal Regiment of Satan"), the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, and the federal judiciary.
Alongside ubiquitous ads for redemption materials were articles asserting that the "9/11 Attack was an Inside Job" and pointing to the USA Patriot Act as further proof that the American government is at war against its own citizens."

 What's the point of this scam?  one might ask.  No one's going to get away with it and the people pushing the scam don't appear to benefit directly financially.   Turns out they're not after money; they're after recruits.  Recruits radical enough to use bullets.  Failing that, they tried to homebrew them:

"They all end up losing," Levitas said of the redemptionists who pursue such court battles. "But a certain percentage become highly radicalized as part of the process, and that creates a new pool of more militant people. It's a great sifting mechanism for determining who is willing to take it to the next level. ... The Patriot movement has a track record of recruiting people based on paper activism and transforming them into those who would use bullets instead."

I can confirm several incidents of people trying to manipulate or coerce me into adopting or excepting extremist tactics:  In one instance, after concerns about the security of an event and organizer suggested he had lots of friends who could bring guns.  Overkill much?  Another time, an alleged leftist (and confirmed conartist) repeatedly pushed an article calling for people to mass in the streets throwing rocks, etc.  That's likely.

 Unfortunately, in the Truth Movement scam sold to leftists, this appears to confirm it really is a legitimate anti-war group because we know there's a history of government sponsored provocatours in the anti war movement.    So even if the mark is unusable, like me, they still have "sold" the frame: that the scam has a legitimate basis.   The people attempting to dismis

But they do succeed occasionally.   Captain Eric May, running a fraudulent "intelligence" group called Ghost Troop, hit pay dirt:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- To most, the evidence against alleged Holocaust Museum shooter James von Brunn may seem overwhelming.

Surveillance camera video.
Eyewitness accounts.
Von Brunn's red Hyundai parked outside.
Ballistics.
But to some people in Von Brunn's e-mail chain and Web circles, there's a darker truth.
They say the June 10 shooting at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum may be a "false flag" operation. The incident could have been staged by one group, perhaps what they describe as the Jewish-controlled U.S. government, to make it appear to be the actions of another group -- in this case, von Brunn and others who believe Jews exercise too much control in the United States.
In other words, von Brunn could have been set up, they contend.
Where others see meaningless coincidence, members of "Ghost Troop," an online group of writers and investigators bent on disproving official versions of the September 11, 2001, attacks and other major events, have a penchant for seeing what they argue is meaningful evidence. Where others see the smoke of understandable and inevitable inconsistency, they see fire.

Ghost Troop members are trying to build the case that von Brunn, an ardent believer in conspiracy theories, was himself the victim of a conspiracy.
Ghost Troop's center of focus until now has been the 2001 terrorist attacks. The museum shooting has opened yet another window into the thinking of a group that believes many highly public and publicized events are rarely what they appear to be.
"It's possible that he [von Brunn] might have been enticed to the Holocaust Museum," said Ghost Troop member William Fox. Fox said that Israeli intelligence agents could have shot security officer Stephen Johns, then shot von Brunn, then planted the rifle.
"Today's shootings at the DC Holocaust Museum bear some of the classic earmarks of a false flag operation," wrote conspiracy theorist Eric May on the Web site amfirstbooks.com.
"Mind you, I'm not asserting that this is a false flag operation, but neither am I discounting the possibility. I exhort Internet researchers to look into this carefully and publish results," May wrote.
An Embassy of Israel official in Washington, informed of the Ghost Troop speculation, declined comment, saying it deserved none.

Brunn is obviously a violent fool, but he was also a tool.  It's doubtful by himself he would have taken these actions if he wasn't being fed a steady deliberate stream of conspiracy garbage designed to work people up.  It fits the pattern described by SPLC: 

"The Patriot movement has a track record of recruiting people based on paper activism and transforming them into those who would use bullets instead." 

May has a history of working closely with con artists and Holocaust Deniers, and is almost certainly lying through his teeth when he stated to CNN:

 In an interview Friday, May said that von Brunn corresponded with him from 2006 to 2009, and distributed May's writings to others. But von Brunn was not a Ghost Troop member, May said.
"I came to regard him as one of my readers and critics," May said. "I believe he was an eccentric and brilliant man. I thought he was bigoted. We shared many views, but his view [on race] is not one of them."
May said he was initially surprised by von Brunn's alleged involvement in the museum shooting, saying that von Brunn "never threatened direct action, although he sometimes commented or made allusions to how there needs to be an uprising."
Now, May said, his "theory, but not conviction [is] that this was a staged event, a contrived shooting."

Neat bit of dancing that, eh?  Encourage people to "take up arms", then, when they do and get caught, pretend not to know them, and use them to promote the "false flag" conspiracy.   

Hell, Webster Tarpley did this to himself during the "Kennebunkport Hoax"; once it was clear his not so anonymous video harassment campaign by proxy wasn't having the desired effect(ie, it was not being sold as a grassroot effort, but, correctly, being traced right back to him and other high profile frauds), he claimed his video calling people duped in the Truth Movement "cointelpro" was itself a hoax.  Soon after this video disappeared from the internet.  (It's amazing what these frauds can do when they're motivated.  Pity "Killtown" and company can't get a clue.)

Last note on May:  he claims to not share Brunn's veiws on "Da Jews", but this is a lie:

 Believe me, all, those of us, like Ghost Troop, who are intellectual opponents of the Jewish Zionist kulturkampf -- which we call the infowar -- are the rational opposition. I provide one stark link to our unit infowar history, from this summer, when we were involved in what we coded "Ghost Troop 9112B." It's from a most valued international infowar ally who stabbed us in the back for trying to hold true to the Constitution, when he and his cult wanted us to renounce that prudent pact to join a growing international -- and revolutionary -- movement against the Jews http://100777.com/node/1373

It's we moderates, anti-Zionists though not antisemites, who will eventually be swept away by primordial forces, after being labeled compromisers and cowards for obeying the dictates of conscience and Constitution. When that happens, who will the Jews have to blame but themselves, when the blame game turns on the Jews and the Christian Demiurge they have nurtured matures into a self-minded, cruel demon?

"O Jerusalem," Christ said in sorrow, and Jesus wept.

Captain Eric H. May, MI, USA
CO, Ghost Troop, 3/7 Cybercav+
Mission of Conscience / Patriots in Action

He claims to not be anti-Semite  but blames Jews for being attacked by antisemites?

Back to Redemption...

Redemption is part of the Tax Protester movement which includes some of the battiest of Patriot bats in 9/11 "truth":

Rosalee "Webfairy" Grable's mentor Fred Smart and his antics with Ed and Elaine Brown:     

Edward Lewis Brown (born 1942) and his wife, Elaine Alice Brown (born c. 1940), residents of the state of New Hampshire, gained national news media attention in early 2007 for not paying the U.S. federal income tax and for refusing to surrender to federal government agents after having been convicted of tax crimes.^[1] After the conviction and sentencing, a long, armed standoff with federal law enforcement authorities at their New Hampshire residence ended with the arrest of Edward and Elaine Brown on October 4, 2007.^[2][3][4] In July 2009, while serving their sentences for the tax crimes, the Browns were found guilty by a federal district court jury of additional criminal charges arising from their conduct during the standoff.

Shortly after his imprisonment, Ed Brown claimed that he has been mistreated, tasered, gassed, subjected to sensory deprivation, and isolated from other inmates.^[48] In a recorded telephone call between Ed Brown in prison and a Brown supporter named Shaun Kranish, Brown and Kranish revealed that Kranish had previously introduced Brown to a man known as "Dutch" who thereby infiltrated Brown's circle of acquaintances, and that Dutch turned out to be a security consultant hired by the U.S. Marshals service (http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1491&start=45). In a radio interview with Fred Smart, Kranish said, "he said his name was Daniel Farrioli" and that "Dutch was clearly a professional, well-informed about Kranish's interests and susceptibilities, and skilled in deception." Dutch was among the group of deputies arresting Ed and Elaine Brown on October 4, 2007, ending the standoff.^[48]

Tax Resistor conspiracies are still used to sell the "Truth" con, now being promoted of all places at 9/11 Blogger by the webmaster Orangutan:

http://911blogger.com/news/2013-12-23/100-years-enough-time-make-fed-public-utility

100 Years Is Enough: Time to Make the Fed a Public Utility

Posted by Orangutan. on Mon, 12/23/2013 - 7:42am

• Ellen Brown
• Washington's Blog

Posted on December 23, 2013 by WashingtonsBlog

Guest post by Ellen Brown.

December 23rd, 2013, marks the 100^th anniversary of the Federal Reserve, warranting a review of its performance.  Has it achieved the purposes for which it was designed?

The answer depends on whose purposes we are talking about.  For the banks, the Fed has served quite well.  For the laboring masses whose populist movement prompted it, not much has changed in a century.

It muddles along for a bit, the usual mix of fact and conspiracy, until we get to the point:

It may be time for a new populist movement, one that demands that the power to issue money be returned to the government and the people it represents; and that the Federal Reserve be made a public utility, owned by the people and serving them. The firehose of cheap credit lavished on Wall Street needs to be re-directed to Main Street.

After all the abuses of Wall Street, this sounds temptingly reasonable.  Unfortunately it's being pushed on a website now commited to supporting outright hoaxes and frauds, making me question Ellen's agenda.  I absolutely do not trust her.  True she has a profile on Huffo,  
www.huffingtonpost.com/ellen-brown/‎

but she's also at Common Dreams and Truth Out:

truth-out.org/author/itemlist/user/44779
www.commondreams.org/author/ellen-brown

Her work is promoted at Global Research, (in the past a platform for Anti-Semitism):

 http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2013/11/ellen-brown-finance-capital-vs-public-banking

 As for her "Public Banking Institute", Wikipedia has nothing:

 The page "Public Banking Institute" does not exist.

It smells more and more like another scam....

And sure enough, with a little digging, we're back to the Patriot/Truth/Holocaust Denier endorsed con:

The Real Deal with Jim Fetzer podcast: Ellen Brown

An Analysis of the Economic Meltdown. Posted by Total at 11:02 PM.

http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2011/09/ellen-brown.html

 Friday, March 22, 2013

Karen Hudes / Ellen Brown

Financial whistleblowers

Posted by Total at 10:30 PM

 

http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2013/03/karen-hudes-ellen-brown.html

Keep in mind Fetzer was the first to give Grable's "theories"(most likely not her own at all, but the result of brainwashing by Smart) a wide audience. 

Ellen's board members aren't reassuring either:  Mike Kraus, committed to her public Banking Project, is given a voice at Truthdig and questioned by a reader:

http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/can_the_fdic_protect_your_money_from_another_crash_20130831?ln

Mike Krauss, a former executive director of the Pennsylvania Republican State Committee, a founding director of the Public Banking Institute and chair of the Pennsylvania Project,

And:

jesse

• 2 months ago

who is Mike Krauss, his background is sketchy and he's a former Republican official in Pennsylvania. He lives in Mexico - who is he? Where has he worked? You should truthdig.

50/50 this comment is a plant by a "player" trolling to see who else finds this progressive sounding Public Bank program being pushing by a Republican an bit odd.  It's still a good question.  

Another board member, Ann Tulintseff, makes the asstounding statement: " "The government is in debt to private banks that pretend to have money".  Her work is promoted by another "truther" website:

Online Journal Piece On Ellen Brown Book - Pilots For 9/11 Truth ...

pilotsfor911truth.org › ... › Study › Research › Root of all Evil?‎

Mar 3, 2009 - 10 posts - ‎4 authors

By Ann Tulintseff Online Journal Contributing Writer Mar 2, 2009, 00:20. Web of Debt: The Shocking Truth About Our Money System and How ...

It is possible some of the people involved are themselves victims of a scam, but my experience tells me the lawyer of the group is always in on it:

Chairman and President

Ellen Brown, J.D., developed her research skills as an attorney practicing civil litigation in Los Angeles.

Is this "Redemption" all over again?  Or is it something more insidious? 

While it appeals to the fringe's blaming "bankers" (Jews) for the nation's troubles, there seems to be less of a push to get people to do things that will get them arrested and violently radicalised.

 This "Redemption" incarnation seems packaged to be sold to the reasonable left, not the radical right.     Pity they chose a sales man from the fringe right(Fetzer), because that's the first flag Ellen Brown is probably a fraud, a person pretending to left, progressive values, while knowingly pushing a fringe right agenda. 

 Whatever is going on, the Public Banking Institute is not being honest about who they are and what interests they represent.