911Blogger.com's Orangutan comes out of the "American Free Press" fringe closet

I've gotta work on that title.  Too wordy.

As the years go by, the right wing fringe front DNA becomes more and more obvious at the "truther" website 911blogger.com.   But, up until now, the owners have played face-saving games and disclaimers, no matter what was posted.  This has included some truly despicable shite, of which calling the Sandy Hook shootings fake is the bottom of the barrell.

Well today it isn't just anyone pulling this rubbish.  The website co-owner Orangatan is not only is pushing the "Hooker" scam, but links to the Larouche/Cato/fringe loonie website American Free Press to do so:


http://911blogger.com/news/2013-01-17/why-sandy-hook-massacre-spawned-conspiracy-theories-benjamin-radford-livescience-bad-science-columnist

School Safety Expert Threatened for Questioning Sandy Hook
School safety expert who was invited by the U.S. Department of Justice to train over 3,500 school police officers, superintendents and principals, Wolfgang W. Halbig, threatened by police investigators for questioning Sandy Hook official story.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6roDPt1WYYY

Ex Florida state trooper/investigator on the verge of blowing Sandy Hook wide open after receiving multiple official threats. Incredible information.

Wolfgang W. Halbig doesn't believe anyone was killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, and he's looking for some answers. So many answers, in fact, that he was paid a visit by some police investigators telling him to back off.
Mr. Halbig isn't your average "conspiracy theorist." He's worked in public education as a teacher, dean, assistant principal, principal of an alternative school and as the Director for School Safety and Security for the Seminole County Public Schools, a school district of approximately 65,000 students.
A former Florida State Trooper and United States Customs Inspector, Mr. Halbig was invited by the U.S. Department of Justice to train over 3,500 school police officers, school superintendents and school principals. He travels the country providing presentations and keynotes to a variety of school board associations and conferences and is a nationally-recognized school safety and security expert and consultant, who has provided safety training and school assessments for more than 4,000 school districts nationwide.
Dave Gahary spoke with Wolfgang about why he doesn't believe the official story of the Sandy Hook Elementary School event, in this interesting interview (43:23).
http://americanfreepress.net/?p=15503

Orangutan. on Sat, 02/15/2014 - 9:52am.

 

 "Wolfgang W. Halbig doesn't believe anyone was killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, and he's looking for some answers. So many answers, in fact, that he was paid a visit by some police investigators telling him to back off."

 

Oh please.  There's zero "investigative" work behind this conspiracy.  I can't imagine anyone who is not a Nazi, Closet Nazi, racist sympathizer, etc, linking to the AFP website and it's highlighted garbage where you will learn about:

Jim Tucker's Bilderberg Secrets Revealed!

Rudolf Hess: His Betrayal and Murder

The BarnesReview.com "Real History Like You've Never Seen Before!" [spoiler: it's all the Jew's fault]

The FINAL New World Order

POKER FACE

New World Order Assassins  by Victor Thorn

"Orangutan" just doesn't care who knows he's fronting for the fringe any more and his endorsement of the Sandy Hook "Hoax" nastiness proves it.  The "Hookers" have their roots in anti Semite political garbage.

 

Holocaust denier and "truther" Jim Fetzer was blaming the Sandy Hook shooting on Israel/Mossad/Jews:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_H._Fetzer#Conspiracy_claims

 

Atop backing allegations that the 7/7 London bombings in 2005, the Sandy Hook school shooting in 2012, and the Boston Marathon bombing in 2013 were acts of governments' covert terrorism,^[37][38] he initially suggested for Sandy Hook a role by Israel's Mossad or in any case, via claimed inconsistencies, a governmental stratagem, perhaps to frighten Americans into further gun restrictions.^[39] He later claimed that the Sandy Hook massacre was a sham.^[40]

Jimmy has backed way off of these claims, perhaps realizing his anti-semite colors were showing a bit too brightly, but these urls to his articles prove that's the position he initially took a week after the shootings:

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/12/20/279183/israeli-death-squad-massacred-us-children

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/23/mossad-death-squads-slaughtered-american-children-at-sandy-hook

Of course Fetzer is a known fraud pushing pro Nazi swill.  So is American Free Press who published the article Orangutan linked to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Free_Press

"According to one former correspondent, the newspaper's direct ancestor was the publication The Spotlight,^[1] which ceased publication in 2001 when its parent company, Liberty Lobby, was forced into bankruptcy. Like The Spotlight and Liberty Lobby, Willis Carto, one of America's most influential political racial theorists known for his promotion of antisemitic conspiracy theories and Holocaust denial, was one of its founders."

" The Southern Poverty Law Center considers it a hate group^[10] and claims that it "carries stories on Zionism, secret 'New World Order' conspiracies, American Jews and Israel."^[11] One of the newspaper's ex-contract reporters, Christopher Bollyn, is sometimes cited for his reporting in the 9/11 Truth Movement. The Anti-Defamation League has criticised the newspaper and, in particular, Bollyn for linking of prominent figures in the Jewish community with the events of September 11, 2001, and in September 2006 attacked the newspaper for disseminating "antisemitic propaganda".^[12]
Many contributors such as Mark Dankof^[13] and Mark Glenn are also contributors to Iran's PressTV television station. The website Veterans Today which advocates moderate views towards Iran and Syria also carries content created by AFP.^[14] According to Accuracy in Media, "Press TV spews out unending streams of anti-American propaganda", and refers to Dankof as a Ron Paul supporter who is also a "Press TV propagandist". In a May 2011 article Dankof protested the British government attempting to shut down Press TV, blaming it on "media outlets and correspondents with provable connections to the American Jewish lobby; Israeli intelligence; and Neo-Conservatives thirsting for a War of Civilizations with Iran specifically, and the Islamic world generally.” ^[15] In a May 2011 article, Dankof also quoted from and wrote that the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion accurately reflect the state of the world. He lauded PressTV as one of the few exceptions to the Jewish control of the media.^[16]"

So this is what 911blogger.com's owners and moderators consider a credible information source these days.  And the sites users seem to approve.Nice to know.

Now "Orangutan" can drop the pretence of running an "activist" website dedicated to discovering the "truth" to stop wars.  911blogger has embraced it's identity as a front for fringe radical right racists.  But this situation is instructive, as it shows how the  fringe right will exploit confused leftists to hijack a platform.

Lest we forgot, 911blogger was not always  a right-wing haven.  "Reprehensor" was not a Nazi, soft sell or otherwise.  I think he was duped into da truth like many of us. Then duped into handing the website to psuedo Nazi tossers. 

This isn't the first time this has happened.  As justifiably horrid as reviews of Veteran's Today are, it wasn't always so.  Now they're on the SPLC radar as of 2011.

But archives going back to 2004 show a website that appears to have been honest about it's mission to help veterans.  Not a "Jews Did It" meme in sight:

https://web.archive.org/web/20040928195406/http://www.veteranstoday.com/

If it was a fringe right front then, they were hiding it very well.   The website's focus changed Gordon Duff got involved, around 2006.  It doesn't look like the people running the website knew who he was.  Or like many of us, just couldn't believe he was part of a cynical exploitive anti-semite front group.  By 2009 a 9/11 and Terrorism link was added to the main page, reasonable for a military focused website. But by 2010 they were well on their way reiventeding themselves as the Jew haters paradise we know today:

 https://web.archive.org/web/20100810001049/http://www.veteranstoday.com/

 Israelization of Iraq and Indianization of Afghanistan

ADL Like Israel Throws off Classical Liberal Front in Favor of Rightwing Tyranny

Israeli Hitler Youth


GORDON DUFF: WIKI-LEAKS IS ISRAEL, LIKE WE ALL DIDN’T KNOW

And the conspiracy stuff starts to get tracktion:

A Danish Scientist breaks the 9/11 culture of silence

This is all very educational. 

I know it's hard to believe, but, AFAIK, 911blogger.com was founded and run by left leaning anti war activists from it's inception, until the latest fringe goons took over around 2009-2010.   Keep in mind they spent years cultivating people, earning trust to get in this position.     The fringe right is highly motivated to exploit and take over any medium it can control.  It's much more surprising this worked with Veteran's Today; you'd expect more persons involved to be alert to fraud.  911blogger.com, once owned by someone misguidedly promoting right wing conspiracy theories, was always a target.   It was only a matter of time before it was either assimilated or shut down. 

What this tells us is the fringe right can be very patient if they want to take over something.

But people like me can be equally patient in exposing their scams.

It won't end well.

Revleft: A real anarchist's perspective on the 9/11 "Truth" Movement

This isn't 100% correct, but very close, and much closer than many so called "debunkers" have come.  They get the tactic of wooing the left with deceptive propaganda correct(highlighted in red). They're less informed on the exact source from the far right and it's top players.  But then neither was I at one time. Alex Jones and David Icke are players, but they're more of the profit mongering/sell DVD's get rich scammers. It's the Larouche/Ron Paul/Libertarian/Racist Militant/Tea Party who drove the "truth" machine as a political vehicle. 

Still, very good insights.

Also an indirect clue the so called "anarchists" pushing 911 Truth at the time were phoneys;  one of their associates is registered at this board, and no one, I do mean not one of the con-artists, has ever referred to this article, not even in a " Hey guys! look at this disinfo!"  way.

Perhaps an indication they would prefer the idea the "Truth" movement is a con not to get any play.....

Good luck with that.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/whole-9-11-t70635/index.html
The whole 9/11 truth movement

14th February 2008, 22:45

bootleg42

I posted this on another board and I think it's a good read for here. This is basically me showing what the true plans of the whole 9/11 truth movement is about and the trick they're trying to play on people. I think it's a good analysis and the next time we get people here saying "OMG look at building 7" or anything of the type, this could be a good response, especially for those people who believe in these conspiracy theories and who have left-leaning thinking.

Plus when one does research on the movement and it's leaders, one sees that this is a trick by the ultra-right free-market libertarians to try to trick people (who otherwise wouldn't) into supporting their cause.

I'll explain.

The leaders of these 9/11 truth movements themselves are also believers of something they call the "NWO" or the "New World Order", and they're not talking about a new world order in a metaphoric sense, but they're talking about it in a literal sense. They literally believe that a powerful secret group has been planning (for over 100 year according to them) to take over the world and that, "both the U.S. and Soviet governments are controlled by the same furtive conspiratorial cabal of internationalists, greedy bankers, and corrupt politicians. If left unexposed, the traitors inside the U.S. government would betray the country's sovereignty to the United Nations for a collectivist New World Order managed by a 'one-world socialist government." That quote is by Robert Welch Jr., the founder of the John Birch Society (a far-right conservative group who started these conspiracy theories, I'll get back to them later).

These people honestly believe that there is a "NWO" that will make a one world government and that it it force collectivism and socialism down our throats. They claim that the U.N. is one of those organizations. They claim that all major figures in world history from Karl Marx to Woodrow Wilson to Hitler to Noam Chomsky are all in on it. Also they believe that black helicopters are flying all over the world right now, planning to implement their plans of world domination (NoamChomsky made fun of these "black helicopters" claim once in a speech I heard on youtube).

All these conspiracy theories come from an old U.S. political organization called the John Birch Society. This organization is a far-right free-market libertarian organization. They've hated all the U.S. presidents (both Democrats and Republicans), considering them all part of the "NWO" conspiracy. Many of the people from this portion of the right wing is not even liked very much by the ruling class. These people sort of knew that it would be very hard to get the people of the United States of America to believe them in their causes. In the 90's, they had the support of the right-wing militia movements of the "angry white men" but other than that, they could get no more support. Nor did the far-right people in general get the support they have hoped for. Then 9/11 happened.

Being consistent, they pushed the claims that Bush and company where behind 9/11. These far right people where against the "war on terror" from the beginning and they've been against most wars of the past but not for the humanitarian reason, but because wars force the state to spend more and increase and that they believe their "NWO" conspiracies.

A good portion of the people in the U.S. were against the war and against all the mayhem Bush was creating. This is when the whole "Bush did 9/11" thing started getting popular. These far-right free-market libertarians pushed the whole "Bush did 9/11" and they pushed for an end of all U.S. foreign intervention. The far-right started to ride the wave of legit anti-Bush sentiments, pushing only the points that "Bush was behind 9/11" and that "all the wars should end". BUT THEY NEVER TALK ABOUT THEIR ALTERNATIVES (which is what Chomsky pointed out), WHICH ARE FREE-MARKETS, AND VERY ANTI-LABOR AND MANY TIMES, ANTI-SEMITIC. These same people who lead and are behind the 9/11 movements are so far-right that the current ruling class thinks they're a joke. Lets take a look at some of these people:

Alex Jones: He's probably the leader in this whole 9/11 movement. This guy is a free market pusher. He hates Bush, but he's from the right of Bush (scary no??). He has pushed this "NWO" theory. He claims Communism, Socialism and Anarchism are just conspiracies, funded by wall street to create chaos so that the conditions can occur for the "NWO" to take over. He interviewed Noam Chomsky once and after the interview, Jones (like a coward, not being able to say it to Chomsky's face) called Chomsky an "NWO shill" (meaning that Chomsky is supposedly a part of the "NWO"). I think we all know how ridiclous that sounds.

David Icke: This is a big name in the 9/11 truth movement. He claims that the VERY anti-semitic writing, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, reveals a plan for the "NWO" to rule the world. This is very anti-semitic. He claims that every important world leaders in history were and are reptilian humanoids (aliens). According to him, every big world leader is a reptile alien, from Britain's late Queen Mother to George H.W. Bush, Hillary Clinton, Harold Wilson, and Tony Blair. He's had a history with the white militias of the 90's.

Robert M. Bowman: He was a former Director of Advanced Space Programs Development for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, and a former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel. He has pushed that Bush was behind 9/11. He was also campaigned nationwide for the nomination of the Reform Party of the United States of America for President of the United States. This is the same party that had the ethnocentric Pat Buchanan as their candidate.

Steven E. Jones: This is the famous physics professor that has helped fueled the whole WTC 7 thing. He actually supported George W. Bush before 9/11 and he has had a history with the republican party.

Morgan Reynolds: He was the chief economist for the United States Department of Labor during 2001–2002, George W. Bush's first term. He has also been big in the 9/11 movement. Before the 9/11 truth thing, he claimed that labor unions exacerbates unemployment and inflation. He has been HUGE in anti-labor thinking, blaming unions for everything. He hates labor regulation, and he has pushed the U.S. to move to a completely free-market and to reject labor movements.

Notice how these leaders of the 9/11 movement are mainly far-right free-market lovers and what they're doing is they're riding the anti-Bush sentiments to try to gain power so that they can establish their far-right domestic policies (free-markets, anti-labor laws, "states-rights", etc) behind people's backs. These 9/11 leaders don't want to talk about their alternatives, because such alternatives are not what poor and working people would support.

It looks like the trick is working. Many people with left-leanings are falling for joining and supporting this whole truth movement. This is why Ron Paul became so popular over the internet, gaining support from people with left-leaning politics. This movement only wants to sneak in their free-market, small government, anti-labor policies and they use such things (anti-Bush feelings, 9/11, anti-war, etc) to gain support from factions they wouldn't otherwise get.

"It looks like the trick is working. Many people with left-leanings are falling for joining and supporting this whole truth movement"

Well, it worked for a while.  Then it stopped working. 

Better late than never.