Showing posts with label agents. Show all posts
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May 31, 2015

Cointelpro, Wikileaks and 911truth, or 'Why We Know There Are No Agents'



To many it seems obvious the claims of "cointelpro agents" or CIA agents sent to disrupt or stop the "truth from coming out is paranoid conspiracy nonsense, along with "concerns" about the New World Order Illuminati Jews being behind everything.

But if the introduction to a group or email list was based on something much more reasonable--social justice work, peace activism, protesting the war in Iraq-- the idea of is not impossible, though one is unlikely to take it too seriously, at least at first.

The problem is, in the history of real activism, there were government programs funded to infiltrate, and in some cases disrupt, legitimate activist groups.  The American Indian and the civil rights movements are a couple of cases.  The Cointelpro program is a documented example.  The motives were a mix of institutional reactionary conservatism and genuine cultural suspicions of radical new movements, never mind their goals were social justice.  To get an idea of the mentality behind infiltrating peace groups, imagine that most people employed in powerful government positions were Tea Partiers.  There wouldn't be a "Tea Party" because they'd be running the show  and want to keep it that way

Fast forward to today.   The institutional conservatism of yesteryear has crumbled.  Dinosaurs from the pre-civil rights past can no longer depend on being humoured except in the most backward of states.   Even the GOP has all but abandoned the gay rights/marriage "values" battle as not being worth the fight.  But there remains a sizeable population who feels aggrieved, as if recognizing other peoples human rights somehow takes away theirs.   And while these people have no political pull outside of reactionary circles, they do have cash that can be flimflammed out of them by promises to return to the "Good Old Days". 

This a political fraud Ron Paul became quite expert at, though he's not the only one.  It has several necessary parts:

1. Scapegoatism.  It almost doesn't matter who the scapegoat starts out as.  Eventually it will be revealed to be "Jews".

2. Appeal to Authority:  claiming to be expert, experienced, in possession of special knowledge.  Which Leads to.

3: Persecution complex  : the reason this knowledge is not well known is because of "distruptors" or "agents" trying to muddle the waters with "disinfo".  Eventually the following question will be asked:

4: Why have "they" not killed off the keeper of secrets? The frauds are still working on this one.   Usually once someone starts asking this question, whether a skeptic or a believer who is having doubts, the person's criticisms are written off as the ravings of an "agent"  out to suppress the truth.

This is a self contained loop.  All problems the believer has are due to a "scapegoat", the "authority" has secret information they dispense that no one knows because they are persecuted by the "scapegoat".  Never mind the all powerful scapegoat makes no move to kill or disrupt the "authoritys" life, or, at the very least, have their websites removed.  Which would be really easy for  "government funded agent" to do.  One fabricated claim of Child Pornography on the servers would do the trick.  

This illogic loop keeps people engaged as increasingly more alarming stories of police state repression, often taken out of context (if not outright lies), that are spread to keep the faith.  Religious terminology is being used deliberately, because claims of waking up sheeple to the contrary, the last thing the people benefiting from the truther fraud want is anyone thinking level headed about the issue.

The depressing fact is most people sucked into the conspiracy hoodoo circles take claims of "agents" at face value.  As it is not a default assumption of mine, I have never understood it.  My experience is when people start claiming there are agents etc and they are asked to further explain themselves, or God help them, for proof, things get very very woolly.   If one is approaching 9/11 "truth" from a  historical antiwar perspective, the idea of an agent isn't completely improbable.  But it's also not going to inspire instant paranoia.  On the contrary, if one has no reason to believe they're involved with anything illegal, the idea of catching an agent screwing with my constitutional rights is like Christmas coming early.    It's just a matter of catching them at it.

But it's a long, long road to even taking the idea seriously.  It requires layers of confidence games that are nonsensical at the time, but have one purpose: to convince the few stubborn people "agents" are at work disrupting "truther" activism.  

For instance, one party may send a gushing email  thanking the target for "everything they do".  They hope the target engages, shares more information, which is passed on to other members of the con, members the target is either unaware of or has been given to believe the contact disapproves of.  Weeks or months pass.  If the target remains stubborn or becomes problematic in other ways, this information is leaked "anonymously".  Sometimes even the party who had complimented the target abruptly and publicly switches sides.  Others will say pompously: "See, told ya there were agents!"  (Years later all these people will be exposed as working the same con because eventually te piss off the wrong people.  But that's another story.)

This works with disturbing regularity.  The first assumption should not be of agents, but of a con.  Because it doesn't matter if the person is an agent or not;  contacting people under false pretences to manipulate them is fraud.  And fraud...and conspiracy to commit fraud, and using ISP/emails for malicious communications... are all actual crimes.  As Lazo's associate Mark Fisher found out.

And this is why it is my personal belief the Myth of "Agents" in the truth movement is protected at all costs: once it's obvious the so called "agent" activity is a fraud, it will be impossible to control or protect what is left of the "truther" movement.  

But even knowing how absurd and unlikely "agents" are, it is still useful to once and for all put the matter at rest:  The reason we know---not suspect, but know-- there are no Cointepro/CIA agents active to disrupt 9/11 truth is because the very merchants of these conspiracies were customers of the CIA affiliate STRATFOR.

In late 2011- early 2012, Wikileaks with Anonymous leaked the customer list of STRATFOR, a private intelligence firm that did work for the CIA.  The lists included names, email addresses and credit card numbers.  STRATFOR denied they had a security breach, but it was all posted at the Dazzlepod site, where anyone could look up their information.

In the last year it was deleted but one can find the home page in wayback.

STRATFOR
cleartext passwords

On December 25, 2011, the Anonymous group hacked into a private intelligence agency, Strategic Forecasting Inc. or STRATFOR, based in Austin, Texas. The attack began with the release of STRATFOR's client list announced at https://twitter.com/#!/AnonymousIRC/status/150679351589998593 followed by release of accounts in batches believed to belong to STRATFOR's customers. The release announced in another Twitter post at https://twitter.com/#!/AnonymousIRC/status/150985258999885824 includes emails, passwords (hashed with MD5), home/office addresses and credit card information (full 16-digit number, expiry date and CVV number). The table below is the list of the leaked accounts with the passwords removed.

STRATFOR has brought down their site following the attack but kept their members posted on the status of the attack via their Facebook page.



UPDATE (January 2, 2012): We have processed all 860,000 STRATFOR's registered users and added them into the table below. These users do not have their credit card information leaked. The earlier accounts with credit card information leaked are now tagged with "cc" in the table below.

This disclosure was mentioned in PCWorld, Forbes, CNN, MSNBC, FOX News and TheBlaze.

UPDATE (December 30, 2011): The Anonymous group has just released the remaining accounts making the total of leaked STRATFOR's accounts with credit card information to a total of approx. 75,000. The table below has been updated to include these accounts. Additionally, login information for approx. 860,000 STRATFOR's registered users have been leaked as well but they don't include credit card information; we may update the table below to include these users later.


At the time, for people who still thought there was something to "trutherism" this was exciting news.  Immediately the trusting and naive started looking for evidence on Wikileaks of an "inside job".  They came up with nothing and slowly decided Wikileaks was "controlled opposition".   For instance, this article implies STRATFOR was "concerned":


Wikileaks email dump shows Stratfor’s Burton concerned about skepticism concerning Osama narrative
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Tuesday, March 6, 2012

The deluge of Stratfor.com emails released a result of the recent Wikileaks data dump includes a brief note from Stratfor’s vice president for intelligence Fred Burton in which he urges the U.S. government to show photos of Osama Bin Laden’s corpse in order to silence “lunatics like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck” who had questioned the government’s official narrative behind the death of the terror mastermind....

This was eyerollingly predictable and strained, even to people who still bought "truthersim".  There are only so many times one can claim "cointelpro/controlled opposition/disinfo" before it's a clear mantra to explain away inconvenient facts.  Could it be the reason there was no evidence of an "Inside Job" is that there was no "Inside Job"?

That by itself would be disappointing in the sense of wasting time on something that wasn't real.  But even more troubling was that at least two conspiracy websites that pushed the 911 truth movement, Before it's News and Infowars, knew it wasn't real.  Or at least knew they weren't targets of the CIA or any affiliated agency action.  Because both these websites were STRATFOR customers and listed on dazzlepod...under identifiable email addresses:


ID Email / Username Password
794631 1oldpath@infowars.net
  

693272 kirsten@beforeitsnews.com

It doesn't take much imagination to conceive an activist of any stripe signing up for STRATFOR services to see "what they're up to".  But anyone doing so under their real name and identifiable email address is LYING about being targeted by the CIA or any related intelligence firm.
Yet here are some stories from both sites claiming concern about "agents" and "inflitration".
Zionist agents infiltrating  the Truth Movement
Paranoid garbage about the CIA infiltrating alternative media
Yet oddly considering the CIA a valid source for more conspiracy nonsense

Infowars is just as colorful:

CIA Killed Phillip Marshall for Leaking 9/11 Secrets

and article apparently written by White Power booster Kevin Barrett.

Infowars and Before its News aren't the only ones.  Craig "Killtown" Lazo's Portland group and associates had a ridiculously high percentage of STRATFOR customers, including a woman who was part of a radical radio station who had promoted group events:

Gregory Thomson aka Ozzybinoswald, close friend of Lazo and inventor of conspiracy garbage like Mark Humphrey being the Harley Guy and repeating smoke "fakery".  Ozzy really really wants you to believe "agents" perps and shills exist.


152542 hisholiness@rome.com ***

Petros Evdokas, caught having a bizarre convo with Lazo on the Cyprus Indymedia email list.  Really, really wants you to believe he was targeted by the CIA...for reasons.  Was also confronted on Indymedia lists for misrepresenting himself and his circumstances.  In other words, he's a fraud.  Daddy Evdokas was a right wing politician:
 The Democratic National Party (Greek: Δημοκρατικό Εθνικό Κόμμα, ΔΕΚ, DEK), was a far-right nationalist political party in Cyprus that advocates union of Cyprus and Greece (Enosis).[1]

This might explain Evdokas' friendship with White Supremacist supporter Kevin Barrett.  Both Evdokas are in the STRATFOR database, but only as persons of political interest. 

 4. EVDOKAS, PETER, 16 YEARS, NO. 23 VASALI MICHAELIDES STREET, NICOSIA, PHONE 43665.
 3. FOLLOWING SWEARING IN OF CABINET, MAKARIOS TOLD PRESS THAT "NATIONAL COUNCIL" HAS BEEN SET UP TO ADVISE PRESIDENT ON BROAD POLICY ISSUES. UNIFIED PARTY WILL BE REPRESENTED BY TASSOS PAPA- DOPOULOS, PROGRESSIVE FRONT BY STAVROS POSKOTIS, AKEL BY PARTY LEADER PAPAIOANNOU, EDEK BY LYSSARIDES, AND DEK BY TAKIS EVDOKAS. PRO-ENOSIS ESEA HAS NOT YET NAMED REPRESENTATIVE. CLERIDES IS EX-OFFICIO MEMBER.

Neither of them have been "oppressed".


ID Email / Username Password
408068 ttetpos@yahoo.com ***

JT Waldron: Conspiracy hack who joined Craig Lazo's Portland truther group(s) in 2010, 2011(?).  Website plays the just asking questions game, while comments are frequently and virulently anti semetic. Really, really wants you to believe the CIA threatened 9/11 researchers.


ID Email / Username Password
748320 jt@theintercept.com ***


Theresa Mitchell, aka Presswatch, an associate and booster for Craig Lazo's Portland group.   She's a "reporter" for an alternative(read, crank) radio station called KBOO that started off as genuine alternative media but has fallen victim to cronyism and Tea Party-esque conspiracy woo.  Has several programs endorsing 911 truth and/or bemoaning the suppression of the "truth".  Really, really wants you to believe Right Wing false flag hysteria and in "Cognitive Infiltration".  Soon after the 9/11 attacks Mitchell expressed concern about CIA activities:
For those of you who feel up to an anarcho-syndicalist and historically critical view of current events, stay tuned for the sort of dissent that is tacitly banned from the corporate-owned media. My surprise at the attacks did not stem from the assumption that they would never occurñI was merely shocked, as everyone was, by the sudden and terrifying loss of life. Given the simplicity of the attack, and the gravity of US provocations around the world for decades, it is remarkable that there have been so few major acts of violence on US soil. In the wake of the US destruction of democracy in Iran in 1954, for example, the CIA set up torture dungeons to aid the rule of the US puppet, the Shah. Here I use the word ìtorture dungeonî in a specific sense; the world saw, after the fall of the Shahís regime, that underground prisons had been constructed, in which dissidents were tortured using information passed along by the CIA.
Apparently her misgivings didn't extend to subscriptions with CIA associates.
https://dazzlepod.com/stratfor/?email=polemics17

ID Email / Username Password
224882 polemics17@gmail.com ***


Other STRATFOR subscribers involved with conspiracy circles include members of Lew Rockwell's Von Mises institute, and the Larouche fraud Webster Tarpley(See also Kennebunkport Hoax):



590746 webstertarpley@yahoo.com ***


676964 vning@mises.com ***

Most of these people have claimed at one time or another to be targets of the CIA/COINTELPRO/Agents  and yet they somehow didn't have the foresight to use a burner email account when registering with a business affiliate of the CIA.

From the Mises website(mises.com and mises.org are owned by the same group):

The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies - Mises Community Archive ...
mises.org/.../forums/t/forums/t/32086.aspx
Ludwig von Mises Institute
Oct 18, 2012 - 33 posts - ‎14 authors
The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies ... This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down ...
This is a redirect to this posting.  Maybe the person posted it really believed it, but clearly the people running Mises don't. 

And neither does Webster Tarpley.  He's got one article about "How to identify a CIA limited Hanghout".  But the most priceless one is accusing Wikileaks of being Cognitive Infiltration.  I'd suspect this was revenge for the Anonymous STRATFOR leak, except this article was published 9 months too soon.  In any case, the most suspicious omission from Tarpley's website is any mention of STRATFOR  after the customer email list was leaked. 

Any real activist who knew about STRATFOR would know the business they were in and take a basic precaution of using a fake email.   The fact none of these people used a burner account indicates they all KNEW the conspiracy of 911 and their persecution by or concern about agents was a lie.

The anticipated fall-back position will be :  "That proves THEY are the agents!  Duh!"

Hmm, no.  A real agent would use separate emails to communicate with an "agency" and the people they were "disrupting".   To not do so would get them fired.  These people are reckless amateurs, displaying the usual arrogance of Libertarian/patriot conspiracy frauds thinking they'd never be caught.  You'd think they'd learn after the nth time Anonymous/antifa/ara leaked their emails...

So why did they subscribe to STRATFOR's services?  One probable reason is if you're trying to dupe people into believing a worldwide conspiracy and you claim to have special knowledge, it's really helpful if you do have some privy information to impress the rubes.    Someone with that type of access could hot read rubes all day long.  Who knows, maybe that's how Alex Jones made his fortune.
The point is , by using identifiable emails to subscribe to a CIA affiliated service, these people prove they know they are NOT targets of the CIA.   Therefore their claims of agents/disruptors are lies.   Since this is their basis of proof that a 911 "Inside Job" truth is being suppressed, one can also conclude, since they know these agents don't exist, there is no 9/11 conspiracy for any agents to suppress.

This may seem backwards from the obvious observation outside the conspiracy culture: that there are no agents because there is no conspiracy, but remember it's these individuals who worked overtime, with a variety of confidence games, to convince people "agents were out there".     By subscribing to services with STRATFOR,  a corporation who works closely with the CIA, they showed they never believed in agents or the conspiracy except as a means to defraud people.

The reason there are no agents is because "Trutherism" is a fraud and there is nothing to "suppress".  And the leaders who invented the truther theories knew it. I patiently await the day they all end up in federal prison. It wouldn't be the first time for some of these political frauds.


Aug 27, 2014

7th Anniversary of the KENNEBUNKPORT WARNING HOAX at 911blogger.com

Complete with caps, by Webster Tarpley.

Don't really have time to go into detail at the mo, but here's the timeline :


Timeline of LaRouche linked harassment campaign:
The Kennebunkport Warning 
8/27/07
• 3:57am: Reprehensor received the Kennebunkport Warning from
Webster Tarpley himself.[1] Arabesque supports the warning shortly after is posted on 911blogger with his own research[2] but later updates the post with a link to his article on the Kennebunkport Warning controversy stating, "[although] the Warning in my opinion has merit, there is considerable controversy over the signatures and the divisive language coming from the promoters of the warning."[3] Arabesque supplied his evidence to support the warning because
none was initially provided by Webster Tarpley. A user commented "[there] are high-profile names here, and the message is important. However, without including the evidence that's mentioned in the first sentence, I'm afraid it will sound paranoid and alarmist to those who aren't already worried about another false flag event from Cheney's crew."[4] Later, Tarpley released the "massive evidence" in word document files on http://actindependent.org/:
8/28/07
• 10:56am: Reprehensor posts Webster Tarpley on the Kennebunkport Warning plugging Tarpley's Thursday, August 30 GCN program and forwarding attachments Tarpley is offering as proof of "massive evidence".[8]
• 11:18am: Arabesque points out one of the articles from Webster
Tarpley's "Massive Evidence", "U.S. Terror Attack — 'Ninety Days at Most'" dates from Wednesday, July 13, 2005. Two years later, nothing happened, and the article is reprinted with the date suspiciously removed by Fox News (but stating 2005 on the printer friendly version).[9] 
8/29/07
• 6:46am: Michael posts Dahlia did not sign this.
• 2:36pm: JoanJones posts a hoax alert and link to an open
investigation at truthaction.org, along with quotes from Cindy Sheehan and Dahlia Wasfi.[10] The rest of the day the Kennebunktport Warning is characterized as a hoax by 911bloggers. 
• 9:00pm: Cosmos reports on the developing KW situation on Truth
Revolution Radio.[11]
ATTACKS ON ANTI-WAR ACTIVISTS
Arabesque has compiled a large summary of the slander, libel, and harassment by Webster Tarpley and his associates against the anti-war activists and Kennebunkport Warning investigators.[12] 
8/30/07
• Tarpley rallies, in time for his radio show. He has gone on record
calling Cindy Sheehan et al. "appalling liars" and "wretched individuals". Opinion on 911Blogger is firmly leaning towards "hoax", and a low opinion of Tarpley, who brings Jim Fetzer, Kevin Barrett and Morgan Stack onto his GCN broadcast to express their support for the KW and their disgust for those who question it.
• Tarpley protege Dan Abrahamson sends the first of several emails
warning Cosmos to not question Tarpley or the KW 
8/31/07
• 7:57pm: Reprehensor posts "Four Signatories of the Kennebunkport Warning say the Document was altered after they Signed.[13] 
9/1/07
• 3:55am: Reprehensor posts:The Kennebunkport Reality Check 
9/3/07
• KW promoter Bruce Marshall calls in to Truth Revolution Radio
and loses his temper, shouting at the host, Cosmos.[14]
An Official Response to the Controversy 
9/4/07
• 11:19am: YT posts blog about Monday's TRR show.
Marshall's outburst included, "You are talking to me in very disrespectful way. Do you know what you’re doing?" "You are doing something that is—is despicable here! Now you listen up!" "You are actually acting in a divisive way!" See Transcript by Arabesque.[15]
Attacks Against Hoax Busters Begin 
9/6/07
• Webster Tarpley's radio broadcast [16]. Transcript
• Posted at YouTube: First of the videos by dog4tree. [17]
List of Accusations by Webster Tarpley and his Associates
• 911Blogger.com has been purchased by a millionaire and could be
run by Karl Rove
• 9/11 activists Arabesque, Jenny Sparks, Cosmos, and Michael
Wosley are COINTELPRO, "organized COINTELPRO cells"
• 9/11 activists Arabesque, Jenny Sparks, Cosmos, and Michael
Wosley are stooges, pawns, foot soldiers, or dupes
• 9/11 activists Arabesque, Jenny Sparks, Cosmos, and Michael
Wosley work for the Ford Foundation
• 9/11 activists Arabesque, Jenny Sparks, Cosmos, and Michael
Wosley work for Chip Berlet
• 9/11 activists Arabesque, Jenny Sparks, Cosmos, and Michael
Wosley are slanders, poison pens, saboteurs, and wreckers
• 9/11 activists Arabesque, Jenny Sparks, Cosmos, and Michael
Wosley are part of an "FBI Counter Gang"
• 9/11 activists Arabesque, Jenny Sparks, Cosmos, and Michael
Wosley are "military assets"
• 9/11 activists Arabesque, Jenny Sparks, Cosmos, and Michael
Wosley are "professional agitators"
• 9/11 activists Arabesque, Jenny Sparks, Cosmos, and Michael
Wosley could be "working under multiple pseudonyms"
• 9/11 activists Arabesque, Jenny Sparks, Cosmos, and Michael
Wosley have not produced "any article of any consequence"
• 9/11 activist Jenny Sparks is a man(this very specific lie comes from information out of context  from a private exchange with Casseia.  I don't publish the details so she can't change her story; it is indirect proof Casseia was a conartist sharing confidential information).
• 9/11 activist Cosmos could be a "Chechen rebel"
• 9/11 activist Jenny Sparks could be a "cigar chomping FBI agent"
• 9/11 activist Jenny Sparks could "work for a branch of Shin Bet
somewhere in the Occupied Territories or a subcommittee of the National Security Council"
• Cindy Sheehan and the anti-war activists are "wretched individuals"
• Cindy Sheehan and four other anti-war activists are "appalling
liars"--they joined together (in a conspiracy) to deny signing a document (after signing it) because they are scared of "losing their foundation funding" and "authoritarian forces". 
9/7/07
• Tarpley's Cooper Union Hall speech. [18] Attacks Arabesque,
Jenny Sparks, Cosmos, and Michael Wosley between 1:32:59 and 1:36:24. Among the slander by Mr. Tarpley included: "Thanks to my counter-intelligence, we've now figured out who's behind it. You may remember Shamil Basayev, the leader of the Chechen terrorists. The Russians think to have killed him in 2006—just about the time that Cosmos came forward." [19] Commenting about Arabesque: "Another slanderer. He's got a whole blog—nothing but slander." [20] 
9/12/07
• Jenny gets mean email from Craig Hill.[21] 
9/20/07
• Tarpley has Jim Fetzer on his show to have another go at the hoax
busters. [22] 
9/24/07
Commissioned professional cartoon by Joe Azar first appearing on Rense.com and Actindepent.org
• Cartoon of Hoax Busters at Rense. [23] 
9/25/07
• Video claiming to expose Col. Jenny Sparks.[24]
• Nico Haupt posts email addresses.
9/27/07
• Webster Tarpley has Capt. Eric May on his show, trying to find
Jenny Sparks.[26] 
10/1/07
• Video claiming we are all COINTELPRO, voice clips from
Webster Tarpley and Capt. Eric May.[27]
• Video credited to rat8bush, posted by Greg Thomson aka Ozzy bin Ozwald, a close associate of Craig "Killtown" Lazo.[28] Ozzy bin Ozwald is a member of May's Ghost Troop.
• Also, by rat8bush (not directly related to us, but has WQ2RX
reference.[29]
• Another masterpiece by rat8bush directed at Jenny.[30] 
10/4/07
• New blog Tinfoil Hat Wars goes up--a blog run by Jennifer Wynhausen(as "pandora") and Jaye Powers(as "glue cowlix") using information given to Wynhausen by their group.  Their first post is about Jenny Sparks and other activist's supposed addresses and phone numbers. Note, no phone numbers or addresses were available online, ergo this information was given to Wyhnhausen/Powers from fellow conartists posing as friends of the targets. [31]
10/6/07
• Video claiming infiltration of Portland Truth with possible pictures
of Casseia.  Both the video and pictures were probably made by Casseia's group, with her knowledge, since they are unknown from any other source and Casseia's story(ies) about being stalked have changed many times, much like Wynhausen's and Lazo's. [32]
• kv3ri: Insight into WQ2RX blog makes first post; blog by same
person who put up "911 Conspiracy Theories and 911 Videos"(If not by "Ozzy", then probably Andrew Kelly aka Spiney who is credited with the "wq2rx" meme).[33] 
10/7/07
• More from rat8bush with possible pictures of Casseia, and attacks
on John Alabanese.[34] 
10/8/07
• Tarpley protege DL Abrahamson posts Guess That 911 Cultist -
clearly meaning Cosmos.[35]


Read the original  at the Anti-Semitic trash website Rense:

www.rense.com/general78/kene.htm

Or from the horse's  mouth:

tarpley.net/2007/08/24/the-kennebunkport-warning/

In the following years more evidence points to the Kennebunkport Warning Hoax being much more of a hoax than initially thought.   All of the personal information was obtained from a couple of people running multiple confidence games and a couple "targets" were most certainly part of the scam as years later they have no problem doing radio shows with the people pushing the hoax.   In a rare instance of sanity, all copies of Tarpley's Cooper Union speech with these ridiculous accusations of "COINTELPRO" have been removed from the Internet.   Unfortunately for the scammers, there are still private copies.

This time line was a private project I was involved with.  I'd forgotten DL Abramson had gone all "God Father" on Cosmos.  Truly pathetic, as most of the hoax was.  But it did serve one purpose:  to isolate and identify the non-Nazis involved in 9/11 Truth, and to reinforce the idea of "agents out there".  UNfortunately it was only a matter of time before someone figured out:

1. All the "mysterious" information was traceable to a handful of people playing confidence game frauds in the "truth" movement.
2. Meaning there were never "agents" or "shills"

leading to the inevitable conclusion

3. The entire "Truth" movement was a fraud.
and most importantly,
4. Everyone involved in a leadership capacity was lying.


Stay tuned!


Jan 6, 2014

By their trolling they shall be known...

Time for a wee retrospective on "trolls" and how they reinforce the 9/11 "truth" scam.      

Recently "videohoax" has become more active at 911blogger as a champion of Glenn Greenwald:

http://911blogger.com/news/2014-01-01/risks-trusting-snowden-story
 Really surprising, this is a typical baseless smear job
I've enjoyed Kevin Ryan's work as well as Sibel Edmonds. I watch Corbett's podcast pretty regularly, but recently with this jumping on the band wagon of essentially calling one of the most important journalists we have a shill or somehow working for the enemy has turned me off to almost all of their work. In my eyes it has significantly hurt all of their credibility in the 9/11 truth movement and elsewhere. Nothing in Ryan's article proves anything.
Pretty sad that someone has effectively caused a divide and conquer scenario with one of the best allies we have outside of our 9/11 truth bubble. Greenwald may not be openly for 9/11 truth but the net results of his work have caused a lot of damage to the united states credibility, and ultimately this should be the same goal we all share. Very unfortunate and embarrassing day to consider myself part of the movement.
Last I heard from videohoax was a weird comment they left on one of my articles that we'll examine later:

http://911blogger.com/node/19332

It was titled:  "Heroes: The Metaphor and Evolution in 911 Activism Part 1"  and can be found here. 

An excerpt for context and tone:
In The Mighty Wurlizer, one of the ways the CIA managed activist groups was to outright fund them. The catch was only a handful of people in these groups were “witting”, that is, knew their funding came from government sources. Today, the more likely source would be a front corporation with a feel good name, like “The Alliance for Social Justice and Stuff”. Its possible that the number of witting people could be increased in this altered model.
So even in your most infiltrated group, most members will not know it. But there will be clues. Witting and invested members( “made men” in the mafia) will always try to cover up problems instead of solving them. They will also be on the front lines to get rid of anyone who comes too close to the operation. They will set up “theater” where some members will fight others to convince the unwitting the group is a random collection of sincere activists. They can make their own internal disputes this way, and have the added advantage of being completely controlled. This sounds a bit abstract; here’s a fictitious scenario showing a possible operation starting in usenet and moving to real life and back to usnet...
This was written before I understood the "truth" movement was a right-wing front and scam.  But the techniques are still used, because scammers of all sorts use these techniques.

This article was received lukewarmly, though the future owner of the website was supportive.  Even encouraging(ironic considering the latest turn of events):
 I've been following this.
I noticed last week they introduced the concept of RFID chips implanted in people. Hiro and his friend Ando each had them and Ando had his forcibly put in against his will, but was assured he'd not regret it. I'm wondering what way this show is going to go. I shouldn't be surprised really if NBC or GE is airing it. Glad to see you analyzing this aspect of our pop culture though Colonel. Keep it up.
Submitted by Orangutan. on Mon, 02/09/2009 - 1:33pm
"Keep it up"?  Surely he regrets those rash words now....

Then "videohoax" pops up to lead with this nonsensical bit:

 i feel sorry for whoever
i feel sorry for whoever read that rant!
Passive aggressive much?

Videohoax did't always leave such comments.  They used to sound quite civil:

http://911blogger.com/news/2006-09-08/my-review-9-11-press-truth

yeah i loved it
just got my copy in the mail yesterday. I was very impressed by how effective it was without mentioning demolition, wargames, or fake hijackers. I think this is the best 911 truth movie ive seen since Loose Change 2.
Still waiting for my copy of improbable collapse, its been over a month and i still have not recieved it in the mail.
on bergers website it says it should already be out technically, who did you hear this from? I wish i would have made it out to the oakland showing, i live in fremont but luckily my copy arrived in the mail on the same night.
That includes the time s/he took to comment on a 1000+ word document . Either they were sent a copy to read, or they came with an agenda to leave a dismissive comment because of the author, hoping to demoralize or discourage them.


The irony is, had these clowns used this tactic in late 2007, it might have sorta worked.  Instead they used the rightwing-cult-scare tactics of video stalking and intimidation...guaranteeing people like me wouldn't leave until they knew exactly who was doing this shit.  If it had been the governement, I would be sitting on a nice fat settlement right now.

But it's not the government.  It's a cluster of fringe conspiracy frauds terrified of being caught.  As they should be.  Because I frankly don't care where the fat settlement  check comes from.


Final note of "videohoaxs" return:  they post less than 15 mins after a comment about cult leader Webster Tarpley and don't blink an eye:

 Tarpley has been saying this for months...
Tarpley sums up how to tell a limited hangout operation in his latest World Crisis Radio broadcast...
- The "whistleblower" has a "Damascus Road conversion"
- Nothing new is revealed
- Nothing is revealed about the big covert ops (like 9-11)
- No politician gets canned
- The "whistleblower" becomes an immediate media darling while real whistleblowers struggle to get noticed...
...listen at http://tarpley.net/world-crisis-radio/

Videohoax knows which side his bread is buttered on.

[Edit:  it's come to my attention some funny editing is going in in that thread.  Now "videohoax" has a comment addressing this one:

yes the same Tarpley who said
yes the same Tarpley who said that Cosmos and Jim Hoffman were basically both government agents with absolutely no evidence (they called out Tarpley for his signed petition scandal) during a 9/11 truth conference.