Craig "Killtown" Lazo's ex-girlfriend finally meets Karma

...And you know what the say about "Karma".  Let's just say it's unlikely they'll become bosom pals....

Sometime late last year the Oregonian did an article on state employees being paid a ridiculous amount of money to not do their job, while spending an equally ridiculous amount of time spreading conspiracies on social media:

 Jennifer Wynhausen walked into Pioneer Courthouse Square with a message emblazoned on her black t-shirt: “9/11 is a (expletive) lie.”

Ah, yes, the T-shirt.  The same one JW submitted to the Holocaust denying website nogw, IIRC. 

Despite her controversial and outspoken stances on what she perceives as federal government conspiracies and lies, leaders at Oregon’s Department of Human Services have entrusted her for years to carry out a vital role of government transparency. She coordinates reviews of child abuse deaths.

There are not enough facepalms in the world.  Firstly, this lying conspiracy hoor cannot logically believe in the existence of government conspiracies(at least she can't believe she's a target of them) because SHE WORKS FOR THE GOVERNMENT.  Secondly...well, there is no secondly, because that's it.  She doesn't believe in this garbage.  OR she's completely out of touch with reality.
 But maybe she's actually doing something useful for humanity...

A story published Sunday by The Oregonian/OregonLive exposed the department’s delays, omissions and failures to comply with state law since March 2017. The department continues to withhold at least two child fatality reports from the public.

Wynhausen has coordinated the fatality reviews since at least November 2014. She was no longer listed as coordinator in a September 2018 organizational chart. A department spokeswoman said Wynhausen’s new job title was erroneous, but did not specify why or say when, if ever, Wynhausen stopped coordinating fatality reviews.

The question should be, did she ever start?  As in, did she ever do this job, as in actually work, like a normal, non entitled, non racist white woman?  the more one reads, JW career has all the markers of Affirmative Action/Welfare For Lazy White Racist Libertarians.   JW is paid in excess of 80K a year to not investigate child deaths.  Meanwhile, she's bitching on social media about the Messicans not paying taxes:

In response to a story about the economic impact of immigration in September 2010, she wrote, “If they are earning so much money, buying homes, etc, they should be paying taxes!!”

As I have recently reminded JW's moronic ex boyfriend, in my ample(as in excess of several gigabytes) archives of JW's sleazy conspiracy group, I'm sure there must be some screen captures/saved pages from Lazo's old forum of her praising Russo's "From Freedom to Fascism", a film that at it's core claims income tax is illegal "tyranny".   So this is an interesting change in perspective.

It's as if Wynhausen has no real principles or beliefs, but is willing to flog any anti-government, racist idea to promote her reactionary, gun humping, Tea Bagger agenda. 

The really sick thing is she's still exploiting a man who only got involved with 9/11 conspiracy theories because he genuinely believed the surviving widows were being treated unfairly.  Unfortunately, like many good hearted souls preyed on by conmen (and conwomen) he is unable to see he's being played.  Oh, and failed peace activist Cindy Sheehan, becoming problematic in 2005, then outright loony, last see blaming Israel for her son's death, makes an appearance:

“I’m totally going to steal these pictures,” Wynhausen wrote in a public comment under the photos. “I got to meet two amazing people!!”

Who knows where those pics might end up....


From comments:

Bad Judgement:

Doesn't trust the gubmint, but sure loves that gubbmint pay check:

There are many more good ones: commenting on JW mental instability, disconnection from reality, etc.  Even someone wailing on Faceplace that she might "lose her job!"   They clearly underestimate the power of a White Racist's Alligator Tears of Woe.  Its an act JW is adept at, explaining the baffling fact she's being paid 90+K to perform a job she's clearly not qualified for.

But the most clueless comment comes from someone completely snowblinded by JW act of a poor hapless innocent, being unfairly treated:

"Sham on Molly for attacking one of the most ethical and hardworking DHS employees..."

Oh dear.   This one really did fall off the Turnip Truck.  Let's share examples of JW's "most ethical" behavior:


Spreading lies about Val McClatchey faking the photo she took on 9/11:

At Loose Change Forums:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/loosechangeforum/let-39-s-publicly-comdemn-this-harrassment-t15457.html#p14584792

How has Killtown harassed her?

 https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/loosechangeforum/let-39-s-publicly-comdemn-this-harrassment-t15457-s20.html#p14586385

AGAIN, how is she being harassed? Should we stop harassing people like Larry Silverstein?

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/loosechangeforum/let-39-s-publicly-comdemn-this-harrassment-t15457-s20.html#p14587120

Clearly this photo is falsified, which at the very least indicates that she was complicit in a crime. So, I would expect her to be involved in the cover up of that crime, so how is that harassment? Is it harassment, questioning whether or not the photo is real? Or is questioning her motives, financial or otherwise harassment? This woman has clearly profited off of 911. Look at the skank, the evolution of her appearance...

 https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/loosechangeforum/let-39-s-publicly-comdemn-this-harrassment-t15457-s20.html#p14587125

 Stop harassing Silverstein, are you serious? 

 https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/loosechangeforum/let-39-s-publicly-comdemn-this-harrassment-t15457-s20.html#p14588482

I read what Killtown wrote about the photo, actually read it. That's what people do when they are genuinely interested in learning or uncovering the truth, they read all of the information and make an objective decision on what is plausible and what is not. It seems possible to me that the photo is altered, perhaps not by "Stooge," herself, rather by the FBI. Why would 3 FBI agents show up at her house within a half an hour, confiscate her camera and her memory card? I thought they had also taken her hard drive as well.

Thanks for the links. I see how Mrs. McClatchey talks about being harassed, however I have yet to see where Killtown found her private, personal information and published it for every conspiracy theorist to start harassing her. I have seen where she, herself, posts her personal information in order to for people to order copies of "The End of Serenity."

(This is interesting because it seems to show Wynhausen does know the difference between personal information volunteered without coercion or fraud, and information acquired by deception and fraud.  Just something to note.  Also, while Lazo may not have fraudulently acquired Val's info, he did encourage his online goons to harass her.)


At International Skeptics Forum:

Xena the Worrisome Internet Stalker

 http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3328294&postcount=114

 You are "not a researcher but an activist"??? This means you just follow your boyfriends blindly into troofdom?

Pretty much.


And that's not including sleazier activities like turning a blind eye to JW's Canadian friend "Ozzybinoswald" who was remixing conspiracy propaganda videos with creepy images of under-aged girls and stalking a man's autistic children....


Yes.... Many Ethic.  Much moral.
 

Only imbeciles running 911blogger these days...

This is an imbecile:

Ted Tilton Jr.: Truth about 9/11 continues to emerge

• Ted Tilton Jr.
• Sep 7, 2011

Dear Editor: Soon we will all be exposed to the officially sanctioned 10-year memorial production designed to re-enforce the state-approved narrative of the 9/11 attacks by appealing to our emotions. What we will not hear from official sources and their parrots in the mainstream media is any suggestion of the flood of factual evidence that well-credentialed scientists, architects, engineers, journalists, and other professionals have accumulated that refute beyond a reasonable doubt the official decrees about the events of 9/11. We may hear snarky references to the “truthers,” we may read articles attempting to explain the movement from a pseudo-psychological perspective. But we will not hear direct, open, honest debate about the actual evidence.

The fact that it is virtually forbidden within mainstream .... 

Blather, blather, blather, ad nauseated.

It's a scam people, really.  There is no "truth", just one long unending conspiracy journey down a very sleazy Nazi ridden rabbithole.

But why is it an imbecile?  Because this person owns/runs/manages/curates 911blogger whilst knowing it's a fraud:

https://www.bizapedia.com/az/911-blogger-llc.html

 9/11 Blogger LLC is an Arizona Domestic L.L.C. filed on November 17, 2009 . The company's filing status is listed as Good Standing and its File Number is L15677141.

The Registered Agent on file for this company is Justin Allan Keogh and is located at 4526 E Duncan St, Tucson, AZ 85712. The company's principal address is 4526 E Duncan St, Tucson, AZ 85712.

The company has 2 principals on record. The principals are Justin Allan Keogh from Tucson AZ and Ted Tilton from Rochelle IL.

And, more seriously, does so knowing he's lying about the site never being funded:

From only comment dated three years ago:

This business runs the conspiracy website 911blogger.com, that solicits money with this line:

"9/11 Blogger receives no foundational or corporate support other than from the ads below. We depend on your support. Help us cover the news and improve the site by becoming a monthly donor. " However tax records show 911blogger.com, or at least the owner Justin Keogh, is given $7,600.00 for operational costs from another conspiracy outfit, Richard Gage's ae911truth:

www.dropbox.com/s/g2195oxvp5olw1d/2014%20AE911%20FEDERAL%20TAX%20RETURN%20FORM%20990.pdf?dl=0#
(page 21)

9/11 Blogger LLC, and the associated website appears to be a front group/site for AE911Truth, possibly using the shell corporation THE 911 INFORMATION FOUNDATION. I guess this would be fine if the owners of 911 blogger were honest about it and didn't ask people for money under pretenses.

There are also reports of the owners(which used to include another guy) refusing to remove accounts, posts or information of members who wished to no longer be involved with the website. They claim that they can't remove anything, even when a person was involved under deceptive circumstances. Any credible website removes material without question. Sometime in 2012 they invented a rule that anything published will be there forever, and try to hold people who registered years before that time that the rule. It makes one wonder what they're up to.

I would not recommend being involved with this business. Dishonest and manipulative.

I can't argue with that!  But I thought I'd put this Tea Party front lunacy behind several years back when, after finding proof beyond a doubt trutherism was a fraud, I deleted all my blogs:

But some imbecile decided to reconstruct them from archives:

hxxxp://911blogger.com/blogs/col-jenny-sparks

And this was all apparently done sometime in the past afternoon, within an hour:

"Imbecile" is spelled "T-I-L-T-O-N" , and really sounds a bit like L-A-Z-O, given the level of stupidity on display.

 Why would someone do this?  You'd think they'd be happy to never have to seak about the outraged antiwar leftist who won't shut up about being scammed by closet Tea Party/Libertarian/Holocaust deniers.  Like this one:

"But this isn't about Cole, it's about yet another knee jerk attempt to protect the Holocaust catechism..."

 Whoa!  Houston, this is NOT a leftist or a liberal...but it pretended to be one, for months.  And you think, after stunts like this, these people would be smart enough to NOT RETURN TO APPROPRIATING MATERIAL OBTAINED THROUGH FRAUD.

But not Tilton. He's a special kinda stupid.

I sent him a wee note:

And then said to hell with it, "why wait" and am currently in contact with webhosts, etc, etc.  If we don't have results by Monday, I guess we'll be talking with...SIGH...law enforcement.    This isn't just sleazy--- it's copyright infringement and plagiarism. Something Tilton's friends seem all too comfortable with....


Lean close to the screen and listen, very, very carefully:

I do not give any fucks about 9/11 truth.  It is a fraud. As long as you are honest about being an organ of the Tea Party/ Alt-right and you don't lie or use fraud to trick leftists into joining up, I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU DO.

Except when you promote Holocaust denial and Nazi shit.  But that shit I just send to Antifascists or law enforcement.

Oh, and GET ALL THE SHIT ABOUT ME DELETED.
Then I will be truly happy to  NEVER TALK ABOUT ANY OF YOU AGAIN.
NO, REALLY. 911TRUTH IS A FRAUD. AND THERE ARE NO AGENTS/SHILLS- NEVER WERE.

But that's too complicated for Teddy, Lazo, and a couple of fake debunkers who seem just as dumb.   So I guess,  INSTEAD OF JUST IGNORING YOU ASSHOLES AND GETTING ON WITH LIFE , I'll be checking in to update this for when some inevitable new crap come up.

Oh, and BTW?  It was a member of antifa who alerted me to this latest garbage, while watching the activities of Craig "Killtown" Lazo, who has apparently crawled out from under a rock somewhere:

If it's really him, he's still a moron about how the Internets work....

I'm still not sure what that's about....except proof Antifa is indeed everywhere.

Morons.

Now you know who you are...get to work. 

EDIT:  One more thing...the whois for 911blogger.com, on the chance anyone else needs it:

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Kevin Ryan: Ghosting for Griffin to Keep the Truther Con Afloat?

 I rarely write about trutherism these days.  In fact one of my greatest desires is to never write about trutherism again.  Alas, the fraudulent antics of Craig Lazo his ex and his fellow scammers make that impossible until they delete all the material they should never have published...10 years ago.  Anyone who'd like me to utterly loose my interest in what the truther con is doing, should probably talk to Lazo about that.

That said, it's come to my attention truther icon David Ray Griffin is about to release another book.  Lazo's buddy "pat" at Screw Loose Change writes:

David Ray Griffin Comes Up With a Brilliant Way to Dupe People Into Buying His New Book

Gotta hand it to him, this is a real con artist at work:

Not make it obvious, by means of the title, the cover, or the table of contents--that this is ultimately a 9-11 truth book.

However, you can see the fly rapidly heading towards the ointment in this following sentence:

    The hope is that some people, not being aware of my notoriety, read enough of the first part of the book to see that I am not an idiot.

But "pat aka Brainless" hasn't done his due diligence.  Either that or he, like most of the scammers, is invested in pushing one message.  It's really hard to tell.  Ages ago, in some long deleted comments thread, he or one of his fans tried to claim I had Nazis sympathies.  That was so whew! 'out of nowhere', I always suspected he had an agenda(alternately a certain idiot was feeding him lies).  Learning in early 2010 he'd always known that the Holocaust denying, alt-right troll "Killtown" was Craig Lazo only confirmed my suspicions "pat" was a disingenuous political operator.

Anyway, the point is "pat" either has an agenda, or is thinking readers aren't smart enough to check his research.  In the link to the announcement at Journal of 9/11 Studies, one can download David Ray Griffin's announcement. Except it wasn't written by David Ray Griffin.  It was written by Kevin Ryan.

The idea DRG was writing anything should have been suspect.  Even "pats" terminally gullible blog co-owner states a common thought:

James B. said...
I didn't know he was still alive.

27 September, 2016 12:56

He's still alive, but last we heard he has serious health problems, though they cleared up a bit so he could have an interview with White Supremacist supporter

and Holocaust denier Kevin Barrett, as relayed by one of Craig Lazo's penpals who is rumoured to run the Harvard 9/11 truth email list:

David Ray Griffin, Health Recovered, Gives Interview on Kevin Barrett Show

Submitted by gretavo on Mon, 2011-05-16 13:35.

With my standard disclaimer that I do not trust Kevin Barrett very much, here is a repost of the 911blogger post about this, which I copy along with comments because of the evidence therein of fake truth infiltrators including Victronix, YT, Vulich, SnowCrash, Jules, kdub, Gareth and jimd3100 (a few of whom are no doubt sockpuppets of some of the others) doing everything they can to discourage people from listening to Prof. Griffin.  Hear the interview here.

So I guess it's nice of Ryan to step in and take over writing duties.

Now someone is going to say,  well maybe Ryan wrote the announcement for Griffin.  Sorry, if DRG is up to writing a WHOLE BLOODY BOOK, I think he could manage a glorified press release.

Next, Ryan was using his computer and the PDF settings.  Yeah, sure, whatever floats your truther con boat.  This is the same Kevin Ryan who claimed to be a whistle-blower after being fired from UL laboratories.  He was also involved in the previous publishing fraud the Bentham Paper, which for some reason I don't have a blog about.  Must correct that.  Until then Rationalwiki does a good job covering the basics:

Membership of a journal's editorial board can be quite prestigious, but when people realised what sort of company they were dealing with and withdrew their acceptance, Bentham kept their names on the masthead and ignored all demands for removal.^[1] In April 2009, the Open Chemical Physics Journal published an article advocating 9/11 conspiracy theories without anyone bothering to inform the journal's editor, who promptly resigned.^[5]

This aroused the interest of the curious, and Bentham was busted in 2009 accepting a paper for the Open Information Science Journal consisting of random sentences computer-generated with SCIgen, whose imaginary authors both worked at the Center for Research in Applied Phrenology (CRAP).^[6][7] The editor of said journal also quit when he found out what the publisher had done.^[8] Bentham's director of publication claimed they merely sent a fake acceptance to flush out the hoaxer,^[4] but no-one believes him.

So, it's not a surprise Ryan would ghost DRG announcement of his soon to be published book.  The only question that remains is, given how fragile DRG is health wise and given Ryan willingness to engage in less than ethical behaviour in the past, did Ryan actually write DRG new book?

It wouldn't be illegal, but it would raise questions of why he would do it.  Why not, instead, co-write it?  It would accomplish the same thing--issue a new truther propaganda piece to rally the troops--but without the embarrassment of exposure.

Who can tell what goes through the minds of "truther" frauds. Even after I knew the entire "truther" movement was a scam, it baffled me how stupidly it was orchestrated. (I am assuming they didn't want anyone to discover it was a fraud.  I could be wrong....)

 They literally only got as far as they did by a combination of riding the anti-war/anti-Bush wave and pure dumb luck.  As for this new Griffin(Ryan?) book, it'll be interesting to see how many copies sell.   A Google search of the title shows no conspiracy site related searches apart from Journal of 9/11 Studies and Brainless' SLC blog at this time.

Lurkers in Canada on a Ghost Blog....

Everyone says Canadians are nice, but they're not fooling anyone. 

Al-right, most Canadians--like most people--are nice enough.   But the arseholes really do make their mark.

Scanning traffic logs recently, I found something a bit odd: someone from McGill University in Canada was viewing the old blog. 

Problem: the old blog is not viewable to anyone but me.

The settings --something Google can confirm-- are still:

 Blog Readers     Private - Only blog authors

[The reason I made the blog private can be read here.]

It can't even be sees in the Wayback Machine: 

And yet, some guy in Canada has visited not just once, but twice:
 

For those curious, the only thing a non blog author can see on a private blog is a Google page telling them to login, followed by a page telling them the blog is private.

 People who enter the Blog URL into their browsers can still see the Blog Title but will be prompted to enter their Google account particulars and password. If they are not given the rights to view the Blog, a message will be shown: “It doesn't look like you have been invited to read this blog. If you think this is a mistake, you might want to contact the blog author and request an invitation.”

And if this was the case, no tracking tag would be loaded by their browser and there would be no record of their visit.

So what was McGilly Canuck looking at?  Apparently this link to the January 2009 archives:

Not really seeing the point, unless they're trying to help Craig Lazo and friends delete their lies across the Internets....

So how did they do it?

It's not magic.  There are no agents.  There are only a handful of possibilities: among them being this person somehow guessed/acquired the account password, or they work for Google.   Since the ISP is a Canadian University, it's probably not a Google employee--just someone who got very very lucky.

Then there are only a handful of possible motives--well, really only one:  they are part of the truther fraud and are willing to risk some serious criminal charges to find out what's on an old, private blog written by one of the few people who figured out it was a fraud and escaped.  Because "letting it go" is not in these people's skill set.

This isn't the first time I've had reason to suspect someone tried to access my accounts.

>In late 2007, early 2008, I have reason to suspect emails were deleted from one of my accounts, emails that proved the person used deception for recruitment.  Hilariously that person hasn't changed their patter for years, trying to use, almost word for word, the same formula to get another person's trust.  Luckily for the would be target, it's was very small activist scene and getting a warning through the right person wasn't hard.

>In a related event, the webmaster of "truthaction", after being "allowed" to use this individual's computer at an event, was to discover, years later, all the emails from this individual were deleted from his email account.  Luckily, in her compulsive desire to spread lies and other fraudulently acquired information, she used the "truthaction" PM system, so copies of most of them were saved.  There are several ways to access an account illegally by "allowing" someone to use a machine to login.    Technically a keylogger isn't by itself illegal, but using it--or any other technique--to manipulate or steal information by deception is.

I changed my passwords long ago, but, needless to say, I've changed them again.

I also sent McGill Uni a wee little note about someone possibly abusing their ISP/Internet services.

It might be nothing they can do anything about, like say, a wireless service open to everyone.   But a search of the ISP strongly suggests this is an individual.

Let us hope that, unlike the sad case of Harvard con man and Scholars for 9/11 Truth member, Gustavo Espada, McGill University has the backbone to not tolerate fraud or cybercrime from it's staff or students.


Because if this turns out to be evidence of a McGill staffer or student engaged in cybercrime, the next step is the RCMP and the FBI.

Three Stooges: Fetzer, Trump and Barrett

At Skeptics forum William Seger starts a thread about Fetzer and Barrett's latest "fall out".
I don't have time to detail all their previous "disagreements" and "fall outs", but I certainly hope people posting thing like this are being ironic:

Classic! Is there anything that has more entertainment value that either one of these two clowns? Fetzer/Barrett...its like Truther Kindergarten, a couple of 5 year olds yelling "Oh, yeah??" at each other. Wait...a couple of 5 year olds would show more maturity.

Because anyone familiar with these frauds history know this is a con.

Seger writes:

 Their last archived show together was on December 10, with Barrett (a Muslim) reporting from Paris where he was attending a "False Flag Islamophobia Conference" (which he says is a protest to another Islamophobia conference that had rejected his paper on "False Flags and Islamophobia"). Barrett talks about Donald Trump "saying Muslims shouldn't be allowed into the United States. That means, I guess, I'd have to stay here in Paris. I couldn't get back in. I'm gonna have to ask Jim Fetzer to explain what's going on with Donald Trump," It turns out, Fetzer is down with that plan, so things heat up. Then something triggers Fetzer into attacking Barrett for being homophobic and Barrett counters by calling Fetzer a "bombastic loudmouth *******." They managed to finish the show, but apparently continued the discussion later...

http://noliesradio.org/archives/107649

Highlighted text is a strong clue this is just another 'Sode in a long line of fake fights, falling outs and branding games frauds like Fetzer, Craig Lazo (killtown), and Barrett play to keep the rubes confused.   It started with the Scholars "split" and hasn't stopped in almost 10 years.

You're welcome.

Delusional Ventura Hosts Serial Predatory Skeptic

 "The Moral Arc"?  That's some extreme narcissist bollocks.

Scraping the bottom of the barrel there.

But what else do persons connected to trutherism have left but the fringe of the fringe?  Ventura isn't alone in using dubious associations to promote trutherism.

Manny Badillo was many "truthers" Facebook and Twitter friend in spite of his sex offender status


 

Manny at Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009794138066

[For the record, when I first heard of these charges, it took repeated questions before people finally said, "Yeah, okay, he's probably guilty.".  To which my response was, "WTF? Then why is he still around?"
No good answers were forthcoming... ]

For instance, Bursill has Manny among his fwiends:

https://www.facebook.com/johnbursill/friends

As does Cindy Sheehan:

https://www.facebook.com/cindyleesheehan/friends

[Historical note: Bursill registered to Craig Lazo's defunct forum a couple days before it was deleted to promote an Aussy truth tour, months after starting a thread at truthaction.org claiming to be concerned about Lazo's 'Killtown' disinfo.  Evidence like that I don't publish, but I do keep to give to authorities the next time these sleazeballs push a con.]

Sex Offenders aren't just popular with two faced scammers or people taking photo ops with racists.   Richard Gage roped a guy called DiNatale into pushing his non profit AETruther scam, and either is so far gone he really doesn't see the problem  or believes even the worst publicity is good publicity.

So it's not too much of a shock Ventura doesn't see interviewing a man strongly suspected of sexual predation in the skeptic community as a problem.

What is slightly more surprising is a well known "skeptic" blog run by two fools found it newsworthy:

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2015/12/jesse-ventura-and-michael-shermer.html

'Fools' might sound harsh, but they are either fools or scammers and opportunists if their activities over the years are any indication.  They stopped credible debunking ages ago,  really by early-mid 2007.  There after the blog was little more than copy pasta of other, credible debunkers, with the main course being an amplifier  for "truther" gossip.

The latest blog post is much in the same vein though not as irresponsible as some. JamesB logs in to write it, linking to a video:

"Jesse Ventura and Michael Shermer"

Only a bit on 9/11, but skeptic Michael Shermer and conspiracy theorist extraordinaire Jesse Ventura have what actually is a relatively amiable conversation.

Why this is even slightly newsworthy for skeptics is baffling to me.  As it was blogged 3 days after the interview, it clearly wasn't topical or urgent to anyone.  A search of  "Jesse Ventura and Michael Shermer"
show literally no English language blog besides SLC covered it, not even the usual conspiracy outlets(at least not with that title):

 And why is Shermer still relevant anyway? On Skeptics forum itself are threads detailing Shermer's suspicious relationship with conartist David Cole-stien, as well as the rape allegations.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263429&page=118
https://skepchick.org/2015/08/ben-radford-has-threatened-to-sue-me/

What's even more baffling is the SLC bloggers had no problem calling out DiNatalie when  cjnewson pointed out Gage/AETruth's involvement with a sex predator.  They even blogged it.  But Shermer gets a pass.

Hmmm.

It might be because both DiNatale and Badillo were legally convicted as opposed to being convicted in the court of public opinion, which admittedly is very YMMV.  In Shermer's case one could say, well, he's not convicted so he's innocent.  But reading the history this is very unlikely.   Normal, non predatory people do not have a history going back years of predatory behavior.   So even if I don't expect SLC to denounce Shermer, I do expect ethical, responsible people to not give Shermer a platform or publicity.

And while the rape accusations may not be proved in court, Shermer's overly friendly association with Holocaust Denier David Cole is unquestionable thanks to photographic evidence.  Shermer has yet to explain their chumminess TTBOMK.

[This is all aside from another serious issue regarding the SLC blog:  like Mr. Lazo they log into their blog regularly, so, like Mr. Lazo, they have no reason not to clean their blog up.]

Whatever the SLC fools intentions claim to be, giving either Shermer or Ventura publicity isn't helping anyone...except the conspiracy industry they both profit from.

So, unless SLC has a dog in that race, it's an odd choice for an alleged debunking blog. At this point there is no point to discussing trutherism except to expose it--and report its frontmen--as a scam.

Hey, little Lurker, what are you doing?

Title total rip off of "Hey Little Girl".

I have a lurker.  Everybody wave!

Not that they know I know they're lurking.

Many were the lurkers in trutherism...


The Bad:

CIT supporters and enablers worried about their "hit list" with information acquired fraudulently, though not worried enough to remove it:
 

 "casseia": 15 visits between Aug 9, 2009 and Aug 15, 2009 from Comcast Cable (24.xxx-xxx-xxx)

Fetzer's friend Gustavo Espada: 14 visits between Aug 9, 2009 and Aug 14, 2009  from at least 4 ISPs, two of which were Harvard,  

Harvard University (140.247.112-xxx) and (140.247.249-xxx)

"Brainster": 1 visit Aug 11, 2009, proving he was well aware of CIT activities.
 Cox Communications (68.xxx-xxx-xxx)

Adam Syed(a conman who I have recently been informed has a relationship with Espada going back to 2007, notable because in 2008 he contacted the then webmasters under false pretences, claiming to share "concerns" about Espada.):  3 visits from Aug 13 2009 to Aug 15 2009

 And of course multiple visits from Craig Ranke from multiple ISPs, 35 from this one alone: Cox Communications (68.xxx-xxx-xxx)

For people involved in pushing a fraud, they were awfully  cavalier about their Internet browsing habits.

The Worse:

Antisemites and their enablers worried that Holocaust denial was getting the kicking it deserved...but not worried enough to stop trying to recuit leftists into "trutherism":

truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6456

Casseia: May 28, 2010 to April 23, 2010 (24.xxx-xxx-xxx)

Jennifer Wynhausen(possibly Craig Lazo on her computer): April 29, 2010 (76.xxx-xxx-xxx))

Espada: April 24, 2010 to May 26, 2010, multiple ISPs, including Harvard and residence(98.xxx-xxx-xxx)

Syed:     May 28, 2010 to April 23, 2010 (71.xxx-xxx-xxx)

Brainster: April 24, 2010 to May 27, 2010 (71.xxx-xxx-xxx), proving he was 100% aware I was not and had never been a Holocaust Denier, ergo any involvement in "trutherism" had to be a con.  Because, how else would that happen?

The Really Bad:

Last post supporting trutherism, with a clear intent to move on.

 911blogger.com/news/2010-06-03/if-itpart-6-jennys-eagle

Anyone reading this and claiming I was still involved was spreading lies and knew it:

Portland State University, almost certainly "Casseia":  June 3, 2010(131.xxx-xxx-xxx)

 Espada:  June 4, 2010 (Harvard University 140.xxx-xxx-xxx)
Syed: June 3, 2010 to April 22, 2012 (let it go, sheesh...)(Road Runner 24.xxx-xxx-xxx)

And someone in Madision, WI I suspect is Kevin Barrett:   71.xxx-xxx-xxx

The Ugly:

My 'best friend' Craig Lazo and Jennifer lurking for material to invent their blackmail lies:

truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=34638

Wynhausen:  Nov 26, 2009  Comcast Cable (76.xxx-xxx-xxx)
(This is the same ISP account Craig lazo used to browse another thread  on Oct 11, 2008)

Mention must be made of "Casseia" who visited the thread earlier in November, and probably directed the Kt Crew to it: Comcast Cable (24.xxx-xxx-xxx)


So, those are some of my lurkers, and what a sleazy bunch they are.


But I have a new lurker now, sniffing around an old 911Blogger thread:

 http://911blogger.com/news/2009-02-09/heroes-metaphor-and-evolution-911-activism-part-1

This one is using an ipad from a static ISP in Liverpool:  (188.xxx-xxx-xxx) and seems to be taking an unhealthy interest in my past online activities, for at least 11 hours. This makes me wonder if new lies are being spun as we speak.

Which would be very, very bad for the people who own a couple of the top 911 website properties who have been informed this is exactly the sort of thing they should not do any more. 

No, I'm not talking about 911blogger, though if the owners of that dodgy website had honored my request to delete my account, and every post there, because I want nothing I've written to go to supporting a fraud...weeeell, I wouldn't know this creepy git--presumably a friend of theirs-was snooping about.

See, years ago, after being conned into trutherism, as soon as I realized something odd was going on, I took it upon myself to contact people who really know how the Internet works.  As a result, I know quite a bit about who has been lying about what.  And updates still come in.

The creeps should chew on that a mo.

After 2008, I always knew who was talking to whom, and that they were frauds.  I just didn't understand why.  It took a while to lose the idea these creeps were government agents, and see them for the political con artists they are.


Back to lurker. I could be wrong about them.  Maybe, he/she is just stumbled across that blog.  Except, as old as it is, the only way they could do that is through the old profile...that is only there because the owners of that dodgy website have not honored my request to delete my account and every post there.  Playing the odds, this is a creep working on some new creepiness.

Some advice?  Stop while you're ahead. 

Craig Lazo sure wishes he had.