Apr 2, 2015

WHY CON ARTISTS SCAM


It's getting closer to that time when how the truther scam works will be examined in detail.  Until then a solid background about con artists should be offered.   Perhaps I should have blogged this yesterday, but that would be a cheap shot...

One of the questions that linger, even after sorting out the 911 Truth Movement as being a scam, is why.  Why bother?  Obviously people like Ron Paul and Alex Jones have something to gain(money and votes), but how does it explain the involvement of B-list losers who appear to have gained nothing tangible, like Craig "Killtown" Lazo and his sleazy Portland group?  At least three persons Lazo was involved with actively recruited people under pretences.  One still works at a state agency with minimal upward mobility(rumor is she's attempting to blame all her activities on some guy who "led her astray". Please.), another was a legal aid who's vanished from the conspiracy scene, and the last, "casseia", is now regaling anyone who will listen about tales of her supposed long term depression.  Yup, she scammed people all because she was depressed....I don't think so.

These are narcissist gambits to elicit sympathy, the "poor me" pity play.  They reveal a grandiose entitled outlook, with no sense of responsibility for engaging in confidence games, and an emotional immaturity that borders on delusion. The boyfriend made her do it?  Really?  She was so depressed she had no choice but to lie and con people?  No one who has any real influence or credibility is going to buy this.  Unless Jennifer can prove this guy(probably Craig, but it could be Jaye) used some sort of coercion, the "boo, hoo, he made me recruit people and lie about them" is going over like a lead balloon.  Ditto for the, "I had no idea what I was doing, I was depressed and anxious" baloney.

But as tissue thin these fig leaves are to rational people, scammers think they might work because they're basically not so bright adrenaline junkies:


Con artists scam because it gives them infinite pleasure to "put one over" on anyone who stands still long enough.  The compulsion to scam is so strong that a con artist will produce a scam even if he/she gains no money out of it.  Con artists even scam each other!

No truer statement was written!  Even discounting all the play acting "falling outs" "splits" and screaming "agent" at each other, there have been a couple of genuine instances where participants stopped trusting each other.  The split between Paula Gloria and the rest of Craig Lazo's back up band, leading to Nico going his own way, is one.  Though I usually put this sort of thing down to the incompetence of one party and the other party is simply trying to save itself.

Basically, conartists don't think like normal people:

An unusually sick group

 .. impulsive, amoral, uncontrolled and detached from normal
The essential feature of Antisocial Personality Disorder is a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others ...
This pattern has also been referred to as psychopathy, sociopathy, or dissocial personality disorder...
Individuals with Antisocial Personality Disorder frequently lack empathy and tend to be callous, cynical, and contemptuous of the feelings, rights, and sufferings of others."
Chuck Whitlock, Chuck Whitlock's Scam School, © 1997, macmillan, New York, NY, pages 20, 21; Richard H. Blum, Deceivers and Deceived: Observations on Confidence Men and Their Victims, Informants and Their Quarry, Political and Industrial Spies and Ordinary Citizens, (Springfield: Charles C. Thomas, 1972), pp 49-50.
Alright, let's put that into ordinary words.

Adrenaline rush

The scammer is compulsive, exactly like a compulsive gambler or compulsive liar.  It is interesting to note that although the scammer is a sharp-witted liar, his gambling skills are such that he usually loses his ill-gotten gains within hours of the take.
Swindlers are irresistibly drawn to scam.  It gives them an adrenaline rush when you are so enthralled with their made-up persona that you quite literally shove your money into their hands.  The scam itself is an ego trip.

And that just about explains everything, including the post scam "Omg I was so depressed I didn't know what I was doing! Also, my boyfriend made me!" excuses.  Any engagement with these sleazebags is just more narcissistic supply, even if the claim to be "really, really, really, sorry about stuff!". 

People who are really sorry, fix what they can with as little melodrama as possible and remove any lies or information they never should have used without expecting a pat on the head.    These excuses and fake apologies are an attempt to stay in contact with and control the mark.  You know you are dealing with a scammer with a Narc ego when breaking off contact makes them go ballistic.

Note, they are not mad at being caught out, or even mad the "friendship"(that was never real) is over.  They're just mad they no longer have control.  And they sure don't feel any remorse or guilt over their actions:


The danger of the missing gene
There is no guilt associated with a scam, not even the slightest twinge.  A con artist is quite simply missing that particular gene.  The con artist has no inbred stops, no conscience.  That's what it means to be a sociopath.  If anything, the con feels justified in taking your money, "You deserved to be taken.  You asked for it."
Why is this dangerous?  Because it means that the con artist will pressure you to the end of your resources, regardless of the pain and grief it causes you.  Neither children, nor the elderly, nor the fragile of health are immune from his attack.  It does not matter to the con that he may be taking your last dime, nor does it matter to him that you may need the promised wealth to pay for a dire need.  This criminal will take your money to the detriment of your health by selling fake cures and false hopes, even knowing that his scam may ultimately cause your death.
The swindler's attitude toward his victim is the same as any serial criminal.


 The last bit is highlighted because the "truthers" scammers recruited people with full knowledge they'd be exposing people to racist, anti-semites and other extremists  without any sort of warning or caution.   

They also were aware that if the person didn't work out, they intended to sell their information down the river to protect the con at all costs.  And if that meant including information gathered fraudulently and using it in videos with underage girls doing what Webfairy calls "sexy dances", then so be it.

No normal person does this or wants to be associated, however tangentially with such activities.

The bottom line is the people who recruit for the 9/11 Truth Movement don't feel any sense of responsibility for conning people into an anti-semite sewer of fraudulent activism. They lie to get people involved because they sincerely believe they have a right to do anything they can get away with.  And that gives them warm fuzzy feelings of control. 

All witting players in the "Truther" con are parasites and vampires to a woman and man.

Let the "buyer" beware.


 

Mar 19, 2015

JFK Magic Bullet Theory Not So Magical

Yet another thing one really doesn't notice until years later: the best evidence debunking the more pernicious aspects of the JFK conspiracies have been out for several years now.  Unfortunately people either don't know where to look, or they're not looking at all, having long since either accepted the conspiracy or given up on making any sense to it.

Well, wonder no more.  In the last several years information has been available explaining many apparently mysterious aspects of the shooting.  We are not including Holocaust Denying Assholes suggesting the driver shot Kennedy.  No, the more prosaic ones, like the "magic bullet"

As it goes, the bullet's trajectory appears impossible to some as it would have t ziggzag or back track.  See image :









But this is misleading because this was not the correct seating.  The correct seating in the limousine was this:



Further more , the front seats were lowered so Kenndy could be seen better by the crowd, like so:



As they wrote at Cracked:


You'll also notice that Kennedy and Connally weren't sitting rigid and facing forward like robots, as the conspiracy theorists suggest, but were twisted in their seats and waving at the audience as though, like, they were at a parade of some kind. Rearrange their bodies that way, and the path of the bullet -- Oswald's bullet -- goes straight through them. Just like it should.


 On this same subject Fred Kaplan at Salon writes:

For many years, long after I’d rejected most of the conspiracy buffs’ claims, the “magic bullet”—as critics called it—remained the one piece of the Dealey Plaza puzzle that I couldn’t fit into the picture; it was the one dissonant chord that, in certain moods, made me think there might have been two gunmen after all.
Then, in November 2003, on the murder’s 40th anniversary, I watched an ABC News documentary called The Kennedy Assassination: Beyond Conspiracy. In one segment, the producers showed the actual car in which the president and the others had been riding that day. One feature of the car, which I’d never heard or read about before, made my jaw literally drop. The back seat, where JFK rode, was three inches higher than the front seat, where Connally rode. Once that adjustment was made, the line from Oswald’s rifle to Kennedy’s upper back to Connally’s ribcage and wrist appeared absolutely straight. There was no need for a magic bullet.


I too bought into the JFK conspiracy, though more in a casual sense, like many people are non-practicing Catholics.  There was no passion, just a cultural osmosis I'd been raised with that "something" was wrong with the Warren Commission.  I never saw the Oliver Stone movie, but it's positive reviews seemed to vindict my acquired assumptions and I saw no need to look into it further.

It wasn't until the aforementioned Holocaust denier was caught mixed up with all sorts of 911 "Truth" frauds, that I started to wonder if the JFK theories were also invented hokum:

Assassination of John F. Kennedy

Fetzer has published dozens of articles critical of the Warren Commission's findings,[7] and has edited three books of studies by experts on the assassination of Kennedy.[13] He is reported to have become interested in the subject after watching Oliver Stone's JFK in 1991.[7] Conspiracy debunker Vincent Bugliosi has described Fetzer as a "good and sincere" man and as "the editor of the only exclusively scientific books... on the assassination".[13] He has also been reported to be "a familiar and controversial figure in the JFK research community".[7] According to Josiah Thompson, author of Six Seconds in Dallas, Fetzer has proffered theories considered "off the wall" by other assassination researchers.[14]
According to Fetzer, the CIA, the American Mafia, anti-Castro Cubans, Texas oilmen, the "military–industrial complex", as well as Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard Nixon, and J. Edgar Hoover, all may have been involved in a plot to kill the President.[13] He has asserted that approximately six gunmen were firing at Kennedy, and that the X-rays of Kennedy as well the Zapruder film were fabricated.[13][15] Maintaining that William Greer, the agent driving Kennedy's limousine, deliberately stopped the vehicle after the first shot to give the assassins a better target, Fetzer has written that it was "such an obvious indication of Secret Service complicity in the assassination" that "had to be edited out" of Zapruder's film.[13]
Fetzer appeared as a guest on the MSNBC program Jesse Ventura's America on the 40th observance of the Kennedy assassination. In response to questions from the host and audience, Fetzer spoke about his findings that the Zapruder film "had been massively edited" and that X-rays and forensic evidence had been severely tampered with or withheld.[5]


 If this Fetzer clown (a close associate of the lying fraud Craig "Killtown"Lazo btw) was involved in the JFK conspiracy community...could that mean some of the JFK conspiracies were just as dubious as his protege Judy Wood's "space beams"?

Then I heard of his ridiculous the Driver Did it Theory, and thought no more of it...still keeping an open mind that maybe something was off about the Kennedy assassination.

And then I find out Stone failed to research thoroughly the seating arrangements, which 100% match the "magic bullet" path.

Not enough derp in the world...

I feel for Mr.Stone.  He made a poplar movie and one day he's going to have to say, "Oops, my bad", at least on that point.  

Recently I've read another JFK book and have my own conclusions about the supposed conspiracy:

1.  Oswald was an asshole and wife beater.  Get that out of the way.

2.  He had some fantasy he was very important in the Russian ex-pat circles he moved in.  I'm sure they found him useful for their own reasons, but he was never considered an equal. 

3. While he had shady, dodgy associates, many perhaps hostile to the US government, they appear to be the bourgeois wine sipping, smoking jacket sort.  Certainly not people willing to risk their emigration status plotting an assassination, no matter what their politics were.

4.  That said, framing of Oswald as a "lone nut" is misleading.  He had a support group who tolerated and encouraged his radicalism...in theory.  However there is no evidence they knew about or participated in the assassination.


And so the osmosis of my youth has been put to rest.  There is no magic bullet...just a bullet.  No conspiracy, except for the delusional visions of grandeur held by a wife beating misanthrope.


The JKF conspiracy, is used as "proof" they "fooled us before, so maybe that's how the planned to fool us about 9/11!!"  This is part of why conartists truthers like "casseia" are very invested in pushing, or at least tolerating, the Moon Hoax, Holocaust Denial and other "woo".  Not that they believe any of it.  It's just a cynical method to control people's perceptions.  A bonus is if you can get someone to fall for the Moon Hoax, JFK and Holocaust Denial and 911 truth for that matter become much easier to sell.


But now we can now stop beating the dead horse.  There was no magic bullet because there was no magic.

Now we can move on





Mar 11, 2015

Infoshop News: Debunking the 9/11 Movement: repost

Sometime in mid 2007 a radical left email list noticed they were getting inundated with 9/11 movement spam.   In response, the  article "Debunking the 9/11 Movement" was posted at Infoshop.   This is a much more useful approach than just debunking theories because it gives context to why the "movement" is so attached to reactionary politics and fringe political figures.  They make their own points from a left radical perspective, not the least of which anarchists, already with a dubious rap, really can't afford to make alliances with racist tolerant loons.  They also make a good point about "seeing the light", which inside "truth" is called "waking up".   Equating "truth" with a religious conversion and encouraging people to act with blind faith is one of the creeper aspects of the 911 "truth" movement.

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Debunking the 9/11 Movement

The 9/11 movement is a very troublesome development in American politics. A movement of people who have legitimate questions about the attacks that happened on September 11, 2001 has morphed into a conspiracy cult dominated by people who make a living peddling nonsense and exploiting ignorance.


It would be unfair to the 9-11 “Truth” movement to completely lump it in with the 9-11 conspiracy movement, but there is considerable overlap at this point. The 9-11 movement has gone from one that asked important questions to one that promotes outlandish theories and outright nonsense. The original goals of the movement have now been eclipsed by conspiracy theories about U.S. Government orchestration of the September 11 attacks. What may have been laudable attempts to encourage the public into critical thinking about 9/11 has devolved into religious devotion to a 9/11 conspiracy cult.

Infoshop is contributing to ongoing efforts that seek to challenge and debunk the conspiracy theorists. We encourage people to engage in critical thinking, not just about government officials but about the critics as well. While it's important to question the authority of government and experts, it's also important to be skeptical of DIY experts and authorities in the conspiracy movement. This page has been created to challenge what we see as an unfortunate waste of time that has affected some of our friends. It's important to understand the difference between the liberal shallowness of 9/11 conspiracy theory and a more solid radical analysis of state power, capitalism, imperialism and everything else that really exists.

Websites Critical of 9/11

9/11 Myths
Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy theories
Journal of Debunking 911 Conspiracy Theories
Loose Change Second Edition Viewer Guide
Popular Mechanics: 9/11: Debunking The Myths
Snopes debunks the claim that a missile, not AA77, hit the Pentagon
That's Just Stupid

Articles Debunking 9/11 Conspiracies

The 9/11 Conspiracy Nuts: How They Let the Guilty Parties of 9/11 Off the Hook
The Truth about the “9/11 Truth Movement” [PDF]

Reviews

Loose Change - Internet Detectives
Louis Proyect reviews Loose Change

Debunking Common 9/11 Myths

No evidence of government coordination of attacks

The 9/11 conspiracy movement has focused attention on outlandish theories involving robot-controlled planes and controlled demolition of the World Trade Center Towers. Yet no evidence, of any kind, has been found that gives any evidence that the government planned or organized these conspiracies. No documents have been found. There is no physical evidence supporting the idea that the U.S. Government orchestrated the attacks. Nobody involved in these alleged conspiracies has stepped forward. One of the significant weaknesses of conspiracies is that people eventually talk. We know about past covert U.S. foreign policies because evidence and information eventually came to light.

Omniscience of the government

Many of the theories espoused by 9/11 movement members about government facilitation or complicity in the 9/11 attacks assume that the U.S. government is a competent, all powerful, all seeing entity. The U.S. government is obviously none of these things. Yet 9/11 theorists would have us believe that a government full of incompetent people and agencies would be totally competent when it comes to organizing terrorist attacks and keeping information about the conspiracy totally sealed shut.
A radical analysis of 9/11 that is ignored by leftists and activists in the 9/11 movement is the fact that the 9/11 attacks illustrated how disorganized, incompetent and weak the U.S. government really is.
Planes weren't skyjacked and crashed into the Pentagon and World Trade Center
There is plenty of evidence that planes were crashed into these building. Planes were destroyed. Buildings were damaged and destroyed. Thousands of people were killed.
One of the wilder 9/11 conspiracy theories has it that a missile was fired into the side of the Pentagon. This is simply false because hundreds of people witnessed the plane crash into the Pentagon. The area around the Pentagon is surrounded by parking lots and highways, which were all full of people on the morning of September 11. Accounts from these witnesses were published and aired by local media on September 11 and in subsequent weeks.

Why is the 9/11 movement an example of liberal politics?

Obsession with 9/11 conspiracies is an example of “arrested radicalization”

Belief about “people seeing the light”

One of the fundamental mistaken assumptions held by 9/11 conspiracy movement members is that if people knew that the government organized the 9/11 attacks that something would happen. 9/11 cultists believe that “if only people woke up” that they would be motivated to take action against the current regime. This belief, which has religious undertones, is problematic for several reasons. It invests an incredible amount of power into the hands of President Bush and his friends, which they simply don't have. It implies that getting rid of George Bush would make everything right, which completely misses the entire history of American imperialism and military aggression. This belief also overestimates the public reaction if their theories about government orchestration proved to be correct. The American public would be outraged, but it is unlikely that they would take any action beyond voting the Republicans out of office (which is going to happen anyway).
This core belief of 9/11 conspiracy theorists also ignores the fact that most Americans are aware of the movement's theories about 9/11. If many Americans know about the 9/11 conspiracy theories, then why do they reject the movement's theories? These theories are widely available on the Internet and in other media. The government is not jailing or persecuting 9/11 movement members. The uncomfortable fact is that the general public rejects the 9/11 movement because it is simply wrong.

Why the 9/11 movement is a dangerous diversion for political activists

The 9/11 movement is a diversion from real radicalism and organizing that needs to be done against the systems that really are the problems. The 9/11 movement builds up the Bush administration as some kind of avatars for all kinds of government corruption, imperial ambition, secrecy and many other things that can be found in any American regime. The Bush administration is not the first to start wars on lies and flimsy reasoning. The Bush administration did not start government surveillance of American citizens. Both parties have a proven track record of violating civil liberties and the freedoms of people like you and me.
The 9/11 movement also discredits activists and associates us with conspiracy whackjobs and religious nuts. Our views are not well-represented in mainstream discourse, so we cannot afford to associate with people who have a flimsy grasp on reality. Would you rather have your movement composed of many Noam Chomskys or of Alex Joneses? We'll take Chomsky, thank you.




 

Feb 25, 2015

An update regarding the old blog...

I'm in the process of retiring the old blog as a private archive.

After a bout of sparring with a racist twit on Twitter, I had reason to reconsider my choice a couple years back of leaving the old blog up.  While on one hand I want nothing I've written to go to supporting the 911 truth scam, on the other hand it is helpful for people to see how insidious the scam can work on a person who was only ever interested in 9/11 as it applies to antiwar activism. 

And also, it is quite amusing to make every link Craig "Killtown" Lazo directs people to, go to information exposing him as a lying, manipulative, fraud.  That's almost as diverting as the aforementioned racist twit making such claims as "The Egyptians were White"  and  "JewsDID911". 

 I ask you....

However, cheap entertainment aside, traffic logs show a certain aversion to visiting this one new blog, with the "911 'TRUTH' IS RACIST FRONT GROUP" all but shouted across the header.  In fact, visitors are observed looking at the old blog, no doubt looking for "proof" Jenny is still involved with the so called "movement".  On discovering this not to be the case(really, not the case, since 2010!  ...morons)  most are very charry of clicking the link to the new blog.      

I intend to fix that. 

Soon this will be the only public blog and visitors will not be able to pretend otherwise.   When time permits I will be republishing individual blogs that should be kept in the public eye...like the entire Holocaust Bollox thread.  Because apparently the fact that Auschwitz was a DEATH CAMP stills needs to be highlighted.     

And, of course, the continued embarrassment of the fools who scammed an anti racist into a racist front must continue with as many laughs as possible.  Stay tuned.

¡No Pasarán! and Allons-y!

Feb 17, 2015

The 9/11 Truth Movement's Dangers by Christopher Hayes

This is a reprint of a Nation article by CBS on December 2006.  It contains a fair bit of context about how the theories presented by the "truther" fraud sounded compelling during the Bush administration's era of lack of transparency and a general analysis of why suspicion by itself isn't a bad thing.  Suspicion only become conspiracism when it continues beyond known facts or credible methodology.

This article only adressed the theories and political climate, particularly around the release of "Loose Change".  It does not touch on the fringe right-wing players behind the conspiracy scene or their politics, agenda or motives.

I'm reprinting in whole because I'm worried the history of sane coverage of the emerging "movement" is disappearing; already the Nation copy is gone.  This can give undue credence to the meme by certain dishonest "debunkers" anyone sucked into the "Truth" movement was just randomly "nuts".  It was a political fraud, every last bit of it. The only people responsible for a fraud are the people who created it and wittingly promoted it.


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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-9-11-truth-movements-dangers/

The Nation December 8, 2006, 3:54 PM

The 9/11 Truth Movement's Dangers

 This column was written by Christopher Hayes



According to a July poll conducted by Scripps News Service, one-third of Americans think the government either carried out the 9/11 attacks or intentionally allowed them to happen in order to provide a pretext for war in the Middle East. This is at once alarming and unsurprising. Alarming, because if tens of millions of Americans really believe their government was complicit in the murder of 3,000 of their fellow citizens, they seem remarkably sanguine about this fact. By and large, life continues as before, even though tens of millions of people apparently believe they are being governed by mass murderers. Unsurprising, because the government these Americans suspect of complicity in 9/11 has acquired a justified reputation for deception: weapons of mass destruction, secret prisons, illegal wiretapping. What else are they hiding?

This pattern of deception has not only fed diffuse public cynicism but has provided an opening for alternate theories of 9/11 to flourish. As these theories — propounded by the so-called 9/11 Truth Movement — seep toward the edges of the mainstream, they have raised the specter of the return (if it ever left) of what Richard Hofstadter famously described as "the paranoid style in American politics." But the real danger posed by the Truth Movement isn't paranoia. Rather, the danger is that it will discredit and deform the salutary skepticism Americans increasingly show toward their leaders.

The Truth Movement's recent growth can be largely attributed to the Internet-distributed documentary "Loose Change." A low-budget film produced by two 20-somethings that purports to debunk the official story of 9/11, it's been viewed over the Internet millions of times. Complementing "Loose Change" are the more highbrow offerings of a handful of writers and scholars, many of whom are associated with Scholars for 9/11 Truth. Two of these academics, retired theologian David Ray Griffin and retired Brigham Young University physics professor Steven Jones, have written books and articles that serve as the movement's canon. Videos of their lectures circulate among the burgeoning portions of the Internet devoted to the cause of the "truthers." A variety of groups have chapters across the country and organize conferences that draw hundreds. In the last election cycle, the website www.911truth.org even produced a questionnaire with pointed inquiries for candidates, just like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce or the Sierra Club. The Truth Movement's relationship to the truth may be tenuous, but that it is a movement is no longer in doubt.

Truth activists often maintain they are simply "raising questions," and as such tend to focus with dogged persistence on physical minutiae: the lampposts near the Pentagon that should have been knocked down by Flight 77, the altitude in Pennsylvania at which cellphones on Flight 93 should have stopped working, the temperature at which jet fuel burns and at which steel melts. They then use these perceived inconsistencies to argue that the central events of 9/11 — the plane hitting the Pentagon, the towers collapsing — were not what they appeared to be. So: The eyewitness accounts of those who heard explosions in the World Trade Center, combined with the facts that jet fuel burns at 1,500 degrees Fahrenheit and steel melts at 2,500, shows that the towers were brought down by controlled explosions from inside the buildings, not by the planes crashing into them.

If the official story is wrong, then what did happen? As you might expect, there's quite a bit of dissension on this point. Like any movement, the Truth Movement is beset by internecine fights between different factions: those who subscribe to what are termed LIHOP theories (that the government "let it happen on purpose") and the more radical MIHOP ("made it happen on purpose") contingent. Even within these groups, there are divisions: Some believe the WTC was detonated with explosives after the planes hit and some don't even think there were any planes.

 To the extent that there is a unified theory of the nature of the conspiracy, it is based, in part, on the precedent of the Reichstag fire in Germany in the 1930s. The idea is that just as the Nazis staged a fire in the Reichstag in order to frighten the populace and consolidate power, the Bush Administration, military contractors, oil barons and the CIA staged 9/11 so as to provide cause and latitude to pursue its imperial ambitions unfettered by dissent and criticism. But the example of the Reichstag fire itself is instructive. While during and after the war many observers, including officials of the U.S. government, suspected the fire was a Nazi plot, the consensus among historians is that it was, in fact, the product of a lone zealous anarchist. That fact changes little about the Nazi regime, or its use of the fire for its own ends. It's true the Nazis were the chief beneficiaries of the fire, but that doesn't mean they started it, and the same goes for the Bush Administration and 9/11.

The Reichstag example also holds a lesson for those who would dismiss the very notion of a conspiracy as necessarily absurd. It was perfectly reasonable to suspect the Nazis of setting the fire, so long as the evidence suggested that might have been the case. The problem isn't with conspiracy theories as such; the problem is continuing to assert the existence of a conspiracy even after the evidence shows it to be virtually impossible.

In March 2005 Popular Mechanics assembled a team of engineers, physicists, flight experts and the like to critically examine some of the Truth Movement's most common claims. They found them almost entirely without merit. To pick just one example, steel might not melt at 1,500 degrees, the temperature at which jet fuel burns, but it does begin to lose a lot of its strength, enough to cause the support beams to fail.

And yet no amount of debunking seems to work. The Internet empowers people with esoteric interests to spend all kinds of time pursuing their hobbies, and if the Truth Movement was the political equivalent of Lord of the Rings fan fiction or furries, there wouldn't be much reason to pay attention. But the public opinion trend lines are moving in the truthers' direction, even after the official 9/11 Commission report was supposed to settle the matter once and for all.

Of course, the ommission report was something of a whitewash — Bush would only be interviewed in the presence of Dick Cheney, the commission was denied access to other key witnesses, and just this year we learned of a meeting convened by George Tenet the summer before the attacks to warn Condoleezza Rice about al Qaeda's plotting, a meeting that was nowhere mentioned in the report.

So it's hard to blame people for thinking we're not getting the whole story. For six years, the government has prevaricated and the press has largely failed to point out this simple truth. Critics like The New Yorker's Nicholas Lemann might lament the resurgence of the "paranoid style," but the seeds of paranoia have taken root partly because of the complete lack of appropriate skepticism by the establishment press, a complementary impulse to the paranoid style that might be called the "credulous style."

In the credulous style all political actors are acting with good intentions and in good faith. Mistakes are made, but never because of ulterior motives or undue influence from the various locii of corporate power. When people in power advocate strenuously for a position it is because they believe in it. When their advocacy leads to policies that create misery, it is due not to any evil intentions or greed or corruption, but rather simple human error. Ahmad Chalabi summed up this worldview perfectly. Faced with the utter absence of the WMD he and his cohorts had long touted in Iraq, he replied, "We are heroes in error."

For a long time the credulous style has dominated the establishment, but its hold intensified after 9/11. When the government speaks, particularly about the Enemy, it must be presumed to be telling the truth. From the reporting about Iraq's alleged WMD to the current spate of stories about how "dangerous" Iran is, time and again the press has reacted to official pronouncements about threats with a near total absence of skepticism. Each time the government announces the indictment of domestic terrorists allegedly plotting our demise, the press devotes itself to the story with obsessive relish, only to later note, on page A22 or in a casual aside, that the whole thing was bunk.

In August 2003, to cite just one example, the New York dailies breathlessly reported what one U.S. official called an "incredible triumph in the war against terrorism," the arrest of Hemant Lakhani, a supposed terrorist mastermind caught red-handed attempting to acquire a surface-to-air missile. Only later did the government admit that the "plot" consisted of an FBI informant begging Lakhani to find him a missile, while a Russian intelligence officer called up Lakhani and offered to sell him one.

Yet after nearly a dozen such instances, the establishment media continue to earnestly report each new alleged threat or indictment, secure in the belief that their proximity to policy-makers gets it closer to the truth. But proximity can obscure more than clarify. It's hard to imagine that the guy sitting next to you at the White House correspondents' dinner is plotting to, say, send the country into a disastrous and illegal war, or is spying on Americans in blatant defiance of federal statutes. Bob Woodward, the journalist with the most access to the Bush Administration, was just about the last one to realize that the White House is disingenuous and cynical, that it has manipulated the machinery of state for its narrow political ends.

Meanwhile, those who realized this was the White House's MO from the beginning have been labeled conspiracy theorists. During the 2004 campaign Howard Dean made the charge that the White House was manipulating the terror threat level and recycling old intelligence. The Bush campaign responded by dismissing Dean as a "bizarre conspiracy theorist." A year later, after Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge retired, he admitted that Dean's charge was, indeed, the truth. The same accusation of conspiracy-mongering was routinely leveled at anyone who suggested that the war in Iraq was and is motivated by a desire for the United States to control the world's second-largest oil reserves.

For the Administration, "conspiracy" is a tremendously useful term, and can be applied even in the most seemingly bizarre conditions to declare an inquiry or criticism out of bounds. Responding to a question from NBC's Brian Williams as to whether he ever discusses official business with his father, Bush said such a suggestion was a "kind of conspiracy theory at its most rampant." The credulous style can brook no acknowledgment of unarticulated motives to our political actors, or consultations to which the public is not privy.

The public has been presented with two worldviews, one credulous, one paranoid, and both unsatisfactory. The more the former breaks apart, the greater the appeal of the latter. Conspiracy theories that claim to explain 9/11 are wrongheaded and a terrible waste of time, but the skeptical instinct is, on balance, salutary. It is right to suspect that the operations of government, the power elite and the military-industrial complex are often not what they seem; and proper to raise questions when the answers provided have been unconvincing. Given the untruths to which American citizens have been subjected these past six years, is it any surprise that a majority of them think the government's lying about what happened before and on 9/11?

Still, the persistent appeal of paranoid theories reflects a cynicism that the credulous media have failed to address, because they posit a world of good intentions and face-value pronouncements, one in which the suggestion that a government would mislead or abuse its citizens for its own gains or the gains of its benefactors is on its face absurd. The danger is that the more this government's cynicism and deception are laid bare, the more people — on the left in particular and among the public in general — will be drawn down the rabbit hole of delusion of the 9/11 Truth Movement.

To avoid such a fate, the public must come to trust that the gatekeepers of public discourse share their skepticism about the agenda its government is pursuing. The antidote, ultimately, to the Truth Movement is a press that refuses to allow the government to continue to lie.

By Christopher Hayes
Reprinted with permission from The Nation

 


 

Feb 14, 2015

Robbie Martin aka videohoax behind Dishonest Creepy Trolling

No, I'm not "exposing" Mr. Martin...he  "exposed" himself.

A little back ground...

Back before I understood the 911 Truth gig was a scam, I wrote a piece published at 9/11 Blogger  titled:  "Heroes: The Metaphor and Evolution in 911 Activism Part 1" .  The commenter "videohoax", a dishonest troll, commented very strangely. One can see the original post here, where the user link is :

http://911blogger.com/users/videohoax

Now if one goes to that URL, one will be sent to Robbie Martin's profile:

Robbie Martin

History

Member for
8 years 23 weeks
Blog
View recent blog entries

And sure enough, if one goes to the ghostpage of the blog, http://911blogger.com/node/19332  , there he is.

Comparison :





 I had no idea my troll was Abby Martin's brother.  Oh, yeh, it's that Robbie Martin:


Iraq Beheading Video Hoax Press Release - Vanderford ...
videohoax.ctyme.com/
This is the first episode of Media Roots radio with hosts Abby and Robbie Martin. First we introduce each other and explain our personal political awakenings ...

So "videhoax" is a reference to the belief the Iraq beheading video is fake.  And this guy thinks it's smart to play creepy games on the Internet while his sister is exploiting a mentally unwell woman to push the conspiracy theories. That looks more and more like funding for a lifestyle...




This is exploitation, pure and simple.  If Martin was a real journalist, she'd have done her research on Lindauer and discovered some disturbing things:

 She was jailed for about a year but was released from custody in 2006 after another judge ruled that the government couldn't force her to be medicated for her delusions so she could stand trial.

In agreeing with the psychiatrist's finding, Preska noted the defendant once stuffed tissues into her mouth when she was admonished not to speak out during a hearing without consulting her lawyer.


 Martin might also become aware Lindauer was unable to answer questions put to her by the Occupy community:


  2 points by SLindauer (12) 3 years ago
I was fulfilling the role usually handled by diplomats. I would communicate messages back and forth between U.S> Intelligence & Libya/Iraq. The Arab govts greatly appreciated my work at the U.N. against sanctions, and I was well known on the Security Council. Whether they liked my politics depended on their position on sanctions, but I was well known there. It's only the American public that was ignorant of what I had done for years.
When the CIA got warnings about 9/11, in April & May of 2001, I was ordered to deliver threats of War to Iraq's diplomats at the United Nations-- in the event that Iraq discovered intelligence about the conspiracy & failed to pass it back through my back channel. I was instructed to say the threat originated, and I quote "at the highest levels of government above the CIA Director and above the Secretary of State." That was the exact wording.
The Bush White House was already setting up Iraq. Of course Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Again, even if you're tired of 9/11, you've got to know what actually happened, so that you can understand why the War on Terror has been a public fraud to exaggerate White House & Congressional performance on national security. You can't fight back without the facts. You don't need all the details about 9/11 to do that. But you have to know that it was an act of public deception in total. The whole thing was a con job on the American public.


  1 points by Democracydriven (658) 3 years ago
Thanks for the response Susan but you forgot to answer my questions.
What exactly is a back channel?
Who were you actually working for and who was paying your expenses?
How did you end up in this back channel position?
I am really curious as to how somebody could end up in such a influential position.
After three years, no response.  That by itself suggests Lindauer was being "handled" or coached by one of the frauds.  If she was doing this on her own, she'd have been allowed to ramble until she was banned.  Her coach probably noticed this was not a community that would swallow tin foil easily. 

But that's idle speculation.  What isn't speculation:  it's obvious that Lindauer is not credible.


I've written before I thought Abby Martin was being played by Russia Today.  I'm forced to go farther and conclude Martin is not a journalist, serious or otherwise,  but is a Libertarian opportunist.  Bringing us to her brother, dear Robbie.

Both support Ron Paul, even years after being proven beyond a shadow of the doubt, Paul is a fringe rightwing loon who hobnobs with Nazi sympathizers and made millions publishing his racist newletters. Newsletters Lew Rockwell, another Libertarian "truther" profited from:


In 1984, as he left Congress, Paul also set up Ron Paul & Associates (RP&A), with his wife and daughter and his former congressional chief of staff, Lew Rockwell. The next year, RP&A began publishing several publications including The Ron Paul Investment Letter, The Ron Paul Survival Report, and The Ron Paul Political Report. By 1993, RP&A was earning $940,000 per year.

Yet Martin and Martin are proud "Voices of Liberty, Powered by Ron Paul":

Robbie Martin - Voices of Liberty, Powered by Ron Paul www.voicesofliberty.com/bio/robbie-martin/
Sep 9, 2014 - Robbie Martin. http://www.mediaroots.org. Co-host of Media Roots Radio with Abby Martin. Founder of RecordLabelRecords.org. Writer for ...
This would be laughably hokey, except for the fact that Libertarian Liberty Loons are almost always pushing a hidden racist, reactionary, agenda.

Not hard to find.  Either these two intrepid "journalists" are too incompetent to discover this on their own, or, much more likely, they know they're part of a dishonest propaganda machine connected to sleazy racist frauds. 

Let's go back to dear, dear Robbie's comments on my blog and see what the point of them could be.

  i feel sorry for whoever

i feel sorry for whoever read that rant!
Well!  I never!

But seriously, Robbie aka VH seems to be trolling for discouragement by being dismissive and bitchy.  Little did he know, had he simply been honest about being knowingly involved in a right-wing racist fraud, I would have fled the so called "movement" a long, long time ago.  

But Robbie wanted to keep that under his hat.  Not only that, but he was keenly interested in recruiting leftists to the cause.


  i think with the right

i think with the right marketing push and distribution chain this film could get just as popular as some of the recent liberal/left leaning documentaries like Freedom to Facism, Why we Fight, and Who killed the electric car. I wonder what the disinformation people are doing beyond these initial screenings. I firmly believe we could see something like this at sundance or even cannes
thoughts?

But when he knew he was talking to a left liberal he's dismissive and bitchy?  He's doing it wrong.

Of course the real reason was, by this time, those wittingly involved in the truther fraud has sussed out I would never push Ron Paul, would never let Holocaust denial slide, would never swallow any "red pills".  Robbie/videohoax wasn't the first passive/aggressive "troll" trying to tell me, via a code so obscure Alan Turning would be at a loss, that I was unwelcome.  As I've said before, these people have no one to blame but themselves:
The problem with using left political rhetoric, slogans and ideas is, um...well, the obvious: they set themselves up to get leftists interested in what they had to say.  And if they set up their con well(and for several years they did), those leftists are going to get involved and expect them to walk the lefty anti-racist talk.  And they'll be very unhappy when the movement "leaders" refuse to denounce, and kick out the racists(Barrett, Fetzer, Bollyn, Thorn, Dice, Tarpley, etc, ad nausum).   

Someone didn't think that one through.

Now, with Robbie's wee correction to his 911blogger account, I'm aware of yet one more fraud to add to the list.  A few searches will show his sister is promoted on this website:

http://mycatbirdseat.com/2014/06/hillary-clinton-2016-a-recipe-for-endless-war/

My Catbird Seat June 18, 2014 1
Abby Martin calls out former Secretary of State Hilary Clinton over her lucrative speaking tour in the run up to the 2016 presidential elections as well as outlining the former first lady’s corporate ties
On the same website, Merlin Miller is a contributor:
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2014/05/traitors-in-our-government-allegiance-to-israel/

Traitors in our Government Allegiance to Israel

Merlin Miller May 10, 2014 4 There's a fifth column in America. A Trojan Horse within our laws, composed of dual citizens and foreign nationals.
 Merlin Miller is a racist with direct ties to the White Supremacist American Freedom Party.

This disgusts me to no end.  Of course Robbie and Abby will plead they have no control over who supports their stuff, and how unfair they're being picked on here, "guilt by association", etc.   But maybe they should have thought about that before claiming to be "powered by" a racist scumbag like Ron Paul.

Mind, I would have never known that I was the focus of Robbie's attention if the owners of 911blogger had deleted my account and comments because I do not want anything I've said going to support what is now obviously a fraud.  That request was made some time ago.  I would never have noticed who my troll was if they had been responsive.  Maybe the Martins would like a wee chat with the 911blogger owners about that....

And the owners are perfectly capable of removing blogs/comments/accounts.  For instance, they've removed the only one I left live...about how Craig 'Killtown' Lazo is friends with Lew Rockwell, Ron Paul's right hand man, proving the truther fraud goes to the top of the Libertarian Party:

If this is it....Part 5- “Killtown”, Lew Rockwell and the Ludwig von Mises Institute

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Showing the "never delete" policy is a lie and Keogh and Orangatan are hypocrites.  I suspect it was one comment in particular they found troublesome:

Possibly the most important message in this blog--

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/26/ron-paul-95-percent-of-black-men-are...
Indeed, it is shocking to consider the uniformity of opinion among blacks in this country. Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty, and the end of welfare and affirmative action…. Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the “criminal justice system,” I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.
“But, whoever actually wrote them, the newsletters I saw all had one thing in common: They were published under a banner containing Paul’s name, and the articles (except for one special edition of a newsletter that contained the byline of another writer) seem designed to create the impression that they were written by him--and reflected his views. What they reveal are decades worth of obsession with conspiracies, sympathy for the right-wing militia movement, and deeply held bigotry against blacks, Jews, and gays. In short, they suggest that Ron Paul is not the plain-speaking antiwar activist his supporters believe they are backing--but rather a member in good standing of some of the oldest and ugliest traditions in American politics.”
“To understand Paul’s philosophy, the best place to start is probably the Ludwig von Mises Institute, a libertarian think tank based in Auburn, Alabama. The institute is named for a libertarian Austrian economist, but it was founded by a man named Lew Rockwell, who also served as Paul’s congressional chief of staff from 1978 to 1982.”
“The politics of the organization are complicated--its philosophy derives largely from the work of the late Murray Rothbard, a Bronx-born son of Jewish immigrants from Poland and a self-described “anarcho-capitalist” who viewed the state as nothing more than “a criminal gang”--but one aspect of the institute’s worldview stands out as particularly disturbing: its attachment to the Confederacy.”
And
Now I must regretfully caution all 9/11 truth activists of African descent, or who identify as African descent or who LOOK LIKE they could be of African descent: there are bono fide racists(er, supporters of “the Confederacy”) operating in 9/11 truth and we know how dangerous racists can be. Under no circumstances let anyone manipulate you into surrendering your anonymity unless it is your informed decision.
http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/06/if-this-is-itpart-5-killtown-...


Now you have to think why would anyone who is not a racist want to hide proof of racists in the 911 truth movement?

It's all good...anyone can still read that blog here:

 http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/06/if-this-is-itpart-5-killtown-lew.html


As for Robbie Martin aka videohoax, I should feel sad for him wasting his life on this fraudulent conspiracy crap.

Then I remember he almost certainly knows it's a front to organize the fringe racist right.  He is likely one of the parties behind the heavy Russian webtraffic, here and here, as his Facebook page has him actually living in Russia:

https://www.facebook.com/FluorescentGrey







In any case, it's a lesson in how not to do diplomacy.  If Robbie's someone's useful idiot, he might consider dropping the gig.

Maybe the next time Robbie thinks about luring leftists into a fringe right propaganda machine just so he can try to bully them when they don't play ball, he'll think twice.

But I doubt it. The grandiose entitlement of "truther" frauds seems without end....



For more on the bankrupt toxicity of the Libertarian Party read this great article:


What's wrong with libertarianism




Feb 11, 2015

Cindy Sheehan: the Canary in the Truther Coal Mine



I wrote about Ms. Sheehan last year, specifically about her dubious credentials as a "liberal anti war activist and her questionable alliances and support from racists.  There is much sadness and disappointment in discovering this antiwar icon is probably a fraud.  But, as Sheehan was preparing for a bid for governor, it could be useful in taking the "truther" temperature in politics:

I'm calling it:  whatever the turnout is, it will be used as "proof" of a silent majority.
Variation:   if Sheehan doesn't even run a real campaign, the turnout will be used as "proof" of a vast grassroots effort.  Actually all that proves is these lying,  scammy, closet racists use private email lists and internet boards to organize.  

 Little did I realize as I wrote those words how late to the party I was.  In California politics only the top two winners of the primary go on to election day.  My blog was written in mid September and Sheehan had already lost the primary in June.

Whoops, my bad. 

That said, looking at the raw numbers is still instructive.  Because Sheehan did run a real campaign, or as real as one gets promoted on fringe conspiracy social media.  And even with the sheeple out if force, she only got 1.2 percent of the vote, with 52,707 votes in the primary.

http://ballotpedia.org/California_gubernatorial_election,_2014

While over fifty thousand people willing to follow Sheehan over a cliff into a sea of koolaid is nothing to sneeze at, it's also, in pure numbers, down from past candidates for the Peace and Freedom party.   Their last candidate in 2010 had 92,637 votes; the candidate before that, 69,934.   The only candidate to get less total votes was in 1982.

This could be as simple as the Peace and Freedom Party was a terrible fit for Sheehan.  Or maybe Sheehan's regular base was turned off by the obvious leftist branding.  In theory, leaders like Kelso might hold their noses and vote knowing they were using the leftist network to undermine it(or that's the plan), but rank and file racist sympathizers in the conspiracy community will have no faith in such a strategy.  This seems less a "roll call" and more an experiment, one that seems to have failed.


Why did the Peace and Freedom Party endorse Sheehan in the first place?  It's surprising members wouldn't object, but then her Wikipedia page was cleaned up.  There used to be a page about criticism and support, that can be found in wayback, but it was deleted.  Granted most critics were from the right, but that's doesn't automatically make them incorrect.  The rational was this material should be incorporated in to her main page, but little of it has.  Her references to 9/11 have definitely been removed, such as this one:

In March 2005, James Morris sent an e-mail to ABC's Nightline allegedly written by Sheehan that included the statements that the 9/11 attacks occurred because "Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy" and that Casey Sheehan "was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel" and had "joined the Army to protect America, not Israel." Sheehan denies the allegations: "I've never said that... Those aren't even words that I would say. I do believe that the Palestinian issue is a hot issue that needs to be solved, and it needs to be more fair and equitable, but I never said my son died for Israel." She claims that Morris modified the email to support his own personal agenda. Morris denies altering the email before sending it along to Nightline[16] on Sheehan's behalf (per her request for him to do so). Two other individuals, Tony Tersch and Skeeter Gallagher, received a copy of Sheehan's email directly from her; both claim that the e-mail they received is consistent with Morris' story. Tersch posted the email[17] he received to the "bullyard" Google group.

It can still be read in wayback.

More direct statements on her page about the "truth" movement go back to July 2007:



9/11 Truth Movement

In an interview with Alex Jones, she supported the 9/11 truth movement and said that she agrees that the falling of the twin towers represented a controlled demolition. She also mentioned the Jersey Girls as well as a new independent 9/11 investigation. [70].

( mp3 link )

Expanded on  in September 2007:

9/11 conspiracy theories

In an interview with Alex Jones, Sheehan supported the Jersey Girls' call for a new investigation into the Bush administration's response to 9/11, and said with regard to the controlled demolition hypothesis for the collapse of the World Trade Center that "I'm not an expert and I haven't had time to research it, but it does to me look like a controlled demolition, from a very amateur eye." Noting that some "high profile" people "think 911 was an inside job," Sheenan said that "there's just a lot of very questionable things." [74]

This information was available until early August of 2008, after which it disappeared from her page.  The mp3 link is very instructive for anyone with 20/20 vision to see how she was working fringe talking points while still plausibly putting up a front as an anti war leftist.

Clearly there was an attempt to clean up her image before going on the politics road show in late 2008.  People only familiar with Sheehan anti war work will have no idea, from simply reading her Wikipedia page, how involved she is with fringe politics.  Maybe the Peace and Freedom Party didn't either, though someone should have done the research.  For instance, before you have someone run for your party, maybe you should check if they're calling well reported news "fake":

Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan wrote her supporters, “I am sorry, but if you believe the newest death of OBL, you’re stupid. Just think to yourself—they paraded Saddam’s dead sons around to prove they were dead—why do you suppose they hastily buried this version of OBL at sea? This lying, murderous Empire can only exist with your brainwashed consent—just put your flags away and THINK!”
Well, I'd respond with, "I'm sorry, but f you believe this woman who has been caught lying numerous times and lets racists take photo ops with her is still a real progressive anti war activist, you're stupid."

Makes us all even, eh?

Few people are talking about Sheehan now.  Her so called soap box is in splinters.  The 52,707 votes Sheehan garnered is less of a sign of a silent grass roots movement and more an indicator the entire "truther" gig is on life support.  Remember, Sheehan started off on the anti war left.  Then she almost deliberately acted out in a way that gave her the flexibility to be more tolerant of the fringe right, until she claims to be not left or right, a common Libertarian rhetorical device to hide an extremist right politics.
  Now, even among her fans, support is dwindling.  The fact is 9/11 truth as always meant to be a racist front by the "leaders".  Leftist were only tolerated in so much as they could be a shield for the racist propaganda ala Alibi  Jews, except they were completely unaware of their role. (Real albi Jews appear to be classic opportunists who know what they are doing, see David Cole).  The only other thing Movement "leaders" want out of leftists is faithful parrots and to recruit new sheeple.   People like Sheehan were a useful rallying point to managed to duped leftists. So what happens to Sheehan when the leftists drift away or, worse, see the "truther" con for what it is?  Sheehan's voting base goes kaput.

Sheehan's use for the "truth" movement is over.  She's burnt her bridges with the Democratic Party and other left antiwar groups.  I certainly hope she's saved or invested any donations she's received, because she's going to need it.   I could almost feel sorry for her, being completely dependent on the good will of fringe political vultures as she ages.   But she still has time to turn it around.  That she chooses not to is sad.

But worse than Sheehan's personal prospects are what's left of the "Movement"s prospects.  These people would never have gotten the fraud off the ground without the help of real leftists and anti-war activists.  "Loose Change" appealed to young anti war activists.  The Bush administration’s incompetence and the luke warm media didn't help.  But it was the pool of disafected antiwar protesters that the frauds exploited to build the so called "truth movement".  Without it, they are dead in the water.  Sheehan was one of the tools to organize the lefty truthers.

 As Sheehan fades, the Truth Movement fades with her.  And like canaries in the old coal mines, any remaining "lefty" truthers should get out.  Once Sheehan's gone, you know it's over.

Only Libertarian sympathetic websites like Daily Caller and Breitbart gives her virtual airtime.

One of which has this obnoxious popup:



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