Re: Should CluesForum exist?
*WHY does Cluesforum exist ?
Good question, Hoi - and I truly appreciate your philosophical take on this question, although your specific interrogation is, of course: "should it exist"? I'll pass on that particular question (as I certainly think it should exist!) and tackle another aspect of this issue, as I feel compelled to remind everyone of WHY it exists. So, with my feet firmly planted on Earth (as the boringly rational person that I am), let me just summarize some past events which probably VERY FEW current Cluesforum members are aware about. Perhaps only our longtime members Brianv and Antipodean will recall any of this - but I will gladly share with you all my historical perspective about the various forum 'dramas' prior to Cluesforum's birth. As it is, I have hardly ever done so - as I've always tried to stay clear of the mind-numbing 'internal truther-gossip and feuds' - most obviously designed to wear out anyone investigating 9/11 and turn them away in disgust from the so-called "9/11 truth movement".
Back in 2007, there were only TWO forums which would allow any discussion about the lame / fake imagery of 9/11 (or the 'no-plane' paradigm): "9/11 researchers. com" and "9/11movement. org". Let me repeat and emphasize: these were the two only places on the entire frigging internets where such debates were allowed. ( I was a total newbie in "9/11 truth circles" at the time - and had no idea that I was typing my words into dumb gatekeeping forums...). Of course, the 'original no-planer' Nico Haupt (under his "ewing2001" moniker) participated there - and I remember how frustrated I was about the utterly incomprehensible gibberish he kept posting on those two sites. And where is Nico Haupt now? Has he gone into early retirement?
To make a long story short, BOTH of these two forums (where I had actively posted my musings, perhaps unwisely anticipating my ongoing 9/11 research) were 'mysteriously' shut down - in short order - between May and July 2007 (note: I released my September Clues movie in June 2007).
Here are two relevant links I was able to find today - discussing these two 'mysterious' shut-downs:
ABOUT THE 911MOVEMENT.ORG shutdown:
http://killtown.blogspot.it/2007/05/abo ... ntorg.html
ABOUT THE 911RESEARCHERS.COM shutdown:
http://arabesque911.blogspot.it/2007/07 ... -down.html
Apparently, it was this John Albanese guy who had the latter (Rick Siegel's 911researchers.com) shut down.
If you ask me, the John Albanese-versus-Rick Siegel act was a classic, most blatant dog-and-pony show:[video: full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3SbjhdPRa0 ]
With the disappearance of those two forums, Hoi and I decided to open our own forum, "Reality Shack" - which was later renamed "Cluesforum". I remember thinking - and fearing - that this would become a massive, unmanageable burden to maintain and administrate. In fact, at the time we called it "an experiment". Well, the experiment seems to have worked out pretty well after all - even if it has certainly turned out to be a demanding (and unpaid) job to keep it going - and existing. I, for one, have enjoyed every minute of it - and have learned a LOT from our sharpest forum contributors. Thanks to all. Now...ehrm... is it at all surprising that our forum is being targeted / attacked from all sides - considering the zillion-dollar "hoax-industry" that we are systematically exposing? I don't think so. I'd be surprised if it weren't. The simple fact that those clowns evidently feel the NEED to attack us (instead of ignoring us altogether) is, in itself, a very good sign that we are on the right track.
As for the 911movement.org forum shutting down, there really never was any sensible explanation as to why it disappeared (along with hours of tireless research / hard work of mine which just went "poof" - down the drain / lost in cyberspace). At the time, I never thought of backing up my writings on my own hard disk... According to Killtown (where is Killtown now, btw?), that "911movement.org forum had been set up by "Slick" - a former admin of the Loosechange forum. One rumor going the rounds at the time was that "Slick's" wife had become pissed off with him - and told him to choose to keep "either her / or the forum". Well, where is this "Slick" entity now? Has he gone into early retirement?
Of course, we then had the Loosechange forum posting THIS hilarious 'final warning' in their forum rules...
So what am I trying to say here? Well, I think it should be obvious that the 9/11 perps probably prefer that NO forum such as ours would exist. Now, were the two aforementioned forums limited-hangouts / controlled-oppositon hubs? I'd say that yes - they were most likely so. To be sure, Rick Siegel (in his 9/11 Eyewitness" movie") posed as an "amateur-videographer" who had allegedly filmed some 'mysterious flashes' emanating from a helicopter (see "PAT", in my September Clues Addendum) hovering above the towers before they came down. Rick Siegel also 'attacked' Ellen Mariani - and this triggered a big mainstream media outrage on the New York Post, no less! As for Killtown - who made some amazing work compiling and referencing the extant 9/11 video material - where is he now? Has he gone into early retirement? Or was he also a (refined / sophisticated) gatekeeper enrolled by the perp-controlled 9/11 "truth movement"?
To be sure, we have never stopped researching - fearlessly so - well beyond the wretched 9/11 scam. Over the years, we have made quantum leaps towards undressing a whole series of other major bluffs and skulduggeries which are dumbing down this beautiful world of ours. Yes, dear Hoi: I think that what we do here - quite simply - is to reclaim the beauty of this world. I personally refuse to live out my life on this gorgeous planet without reacting to its stoopid and destructive elements. Call me a Newtonian action-reaction supporter if you will!
Are we (Cluesforum) also destined to disappear from this planet? Well, not as long as I live. I can tell you that much.
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If you wonder what this RICK SIEGEL guy is up to - (apart from playing the role of a "9/11 truther")
Rick Siegel - and Windows95: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkp3k-GWDRo
TV CEO Rick Siegel is interviewed by Squawk Box Europe: "Setting a historical record as the first online video network broadcasting 24 Hours a day from Europe and the USA using advanced proprietary software and paid membership driven technology." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgWX_j0QKXE
It's obvious Shack is distancing himself from the "Killtown" circus. Note he won't say Lazo's name while wondering what happened to him.
(It's obvious Lazo's lies caught up with him : "Why would anyone want to address the 'challenge' of a lying, stalking, child pornographer like Craig "Killtown" Lazo? ")
Nor will Shack repeat Lazo's blackmail garbage, which is grand. Instead Shack has made his own narrative that allows him to operate freely. It's not accurate, and I have information in my possession proving many points to be, um...untruthful.
But as long as Shack doesn't drag anyone else into his club under false pretenses, we'll let him save face in peace.
The trouble is these people rarely are content to spin their conspiracy garbage privately. For instance, as a result of the truly sick exploitation of the Sandy Hook victims, information about Mr. Fetzer has already been sent to the FBI.
If Shack ever decides to follow in Fetzer's footsteps, Italy will not be as safe as he thinks, and Interpol will not be amused.
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